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[StainlessSR]

Fut, on 09 October 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

Last game I played, it dropped to 8 fps when the action started - impossible to play with it that low.
Thanks to anybody who can help figure out the problem.
Some system specs in the spoiler tag:

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01 - Operating System
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0101 - Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1
0104 - Processor : AMD FX™-4100 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.6GHz
0105 - Memory : 8192MB RAM
0106 - Available OS Memory : 8172MB RAM
0107 - Page File : 4467MB used, 11874MB available
0109 - DirectX Version : DirectX 11
0110 - DX Setup Parameters : Not found
0111 - User DPI Setting : Using System DPI
0112 - System DPI Setting : 96 DPI (100 percent)
0113 - DWM DPI Scaling : Disabled
0114 - DxDiag Version : 6.01.7601.17514
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02 - Processor
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0201 - Caption : AMD FX™-4100 Quad-Core Processor x4 ~3600MHz
0202 - Current Clock Speed : 3276MHz
0203 - L1-Cache : 192.00 KB
0204 - L2-Cache : 4.00 MB
0205 - L3-Cache : 8.00 MB
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03 - Video Adapter
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0301 - Card Name : AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
0302 - Manufacturer : Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
0303 - Chiptype : AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6738)
0304 - DAC Type : Internal DAC(400MHz)
0306 - Display Memory : 4095 MB
0307 - AdapterRAM : 1.00 GB
0308 - Current Mode : 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
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04 - Memory
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0401 - Total Memory : 7.98 GB
0402 - Free Memory : 4.71 GB
0403 - Total Pagefile : 15.96 GB
0404 - Free Pagefile : 11.59 GB
0405 - Bank Label : A1_BANK0
0406 - Speed : 1333 MHz
0407 - Total Width : 64 Bits
0408 - Capacity : 4.00 GB
0405 - Bank Label : A1_BANK2
0406 - Speed : 1333 MHz
0407 - Total Width : 64 Bits
0408 - Capacity : 4.00 GB
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06 - Motherboard
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0601 - Model : 970 Extreme3
0602 - Manufacturer : ASRock

Stock cooler or aftermarket?

Download and open up CPU-Z. Play in windowed mode and check to see if your cpu is throttling.

Also, what is your bios revision? 1.80 is the latest.

[Goose]

Get HWiNFO64 (or 32: whatever), run the "Sensors-only" mode (after you do a "normal" run once,) and check the Maximum column to see if you ever throttled during a normal gaming session …

[StainlessSR]

Goose, on 10 October 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:

Get HWiNFO64 (or 32: whatever), run the "Sensors-only" mode (after you do a "normal" run once,) and check the Maximum column to see if you ever throttled during a normal gaming session …

First time I heard of this program. after D.L. and install took a look and I want to thank you for pointing this out. Very comprehensive.

[unreal icarus]

CPU - Intel core i7-2670QM

Motherboard - Acer JE70 HR

System ram - 8GB DDR3

Operating system - Windows 7 64 bit

Video card - AMD Radeon HD 6850M 1GB VRAM

Power Supply - Laptop ...

Graphics driver: catalyst 13.1

having fps drops in every match from 35fps to 12-17fps. CPU is always running at maximum clock frequency.

[DeerSpotter]

unreal icarus, on 11 October 2013 - 06:47 AM, said:

CPU - Intel core i7-2670QM

Motherboard - Acer JE70 HR

System ram - 8GB DDR3

Operating system - Windows 7 64 bit

Video card - AMD Radeon HD 6850M 1GB VRAM

Power Supply - Laptop ...

Graphics driver: catalyst 13.1

having fps drops in every match from 35fps to 12-17fps. CPU is always running at maximum clock frequency.

When you login to mechwarrior online.

press ctrl,shift,esc

right click on mechwarrior and "go to process"

right click on process and select affinity.

choose 2 cores (the last 2)

the first 2 are being run by windows

then select ok.

Then right click on process and change priority to above normal.

this should fix it.

[unreal icarus]

what i mean with cpu always on max frequency was that i have 100% in cpu power settings. should i still do your workaround?

[Tarl Cabot]

For the OP, your CPU throttling up/down. Go into Power Options/Advanced Power settings/High Performance. Then download and use MSI Afterburner to take more control over your fans.

Laptop user. Can of compressed air and blow out the heatsinks. Make sure ya running with AC power plugged in. Also use the above settings/items. Fan control is an even more critical piece in laptops. Now the next thing concerns Turbo Boost. Turbo Boost is like a poor man's Overclocking but in laptops not all the cores can be TB/OC due to power limitations so it ramps up the power/speed on fewer cores until there is only one. This core is the fastest, drawing the power AS WELL as generating heat. Laptops also have more moderate heat thresholds. Sensor crosses heat threshold which then the bios drops the overall CPU speed.

If 99% in the power management isnt enough, drop it to 98%.

Disabling Intel Turbo Boost - Tautvidas Sipavičius


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[Goose]

StainlessSR, on 10 October 2013 - 03:17 PM, said:

… I want to thank you for pointing this out.

Sho' 'Nuff!

The next trick is to launch FRAPS before HWiNFO, 'cause it can read FRAPSs' fps output into it's log; You then run GenericLogViewer (found at HWiNFO's site), and now you can graph your fps drops, correlated to CPU or GPU loads! ZOMGWTFTELEMETY!

[unreal icarus]

I always play with ac power plugged in. my heat sinks are ok, i also play with an additional 3-fan cooling pad and using the fan control program speedfan. anyhow i let the laptop cool down after every match. when i start a match at 40°C i also have framedrops the same way as with higher temperatures. i think the framedrops are caused by something else....

[unreal icarus]

new patch but still no bug fix

[unreal icarus]

i tried MSI afterburner ... no change
i deleted cache in user folder ... minor change (not sure but on the first match the fps drop seems to come a bit later)
changing graphics settings ... no change

i recognized a gpu load break in when the fps drop appears, have a look:



i know the gpu temperature is high, but this is also an issue of mwo. im using an after market cooling pad along with my laptop and my laptop coolers are also clean.

[Tailmonkey]

I'm also experiencing poor performance after the last couple of patches.

Here's what I'm running:
Intel Core i7-2700K on an ASRock Z77 Extreme4
16g of DDR3-1600
ATI Radeon HD 7970
Windows 7 Ultimate 64

I was running Full screen (1920 x 1080) on high previously and getting nice smooth FPS (Don't know exactly what FPS i was getting, it was smooth, so I never bothered checking)
Now, however, I'm getting only about 20-30 FPS when I'm alone, and 5-10 FPS in a match, and that's at 1920 x 1080 windowed (matches my desktop) with all settings set to low.
I'm at a loss. I've updated the video card drivers with no effect. I've overclocked the card to 900mhz (up from 300mhz) and gotten no noticeable increase in performance.

[Reaganomics]

Tailmonkey, on 17 October 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

I'm also experiencing poor performance after the last couple of patches.

Here's what I'm running:
Intel Core i7-2700K on an ASRock Z77 Extreme4
16g of DDR3-1600
ATI Radeon HD 7970
Windows 7 Ultimate 64

I was running Full screen (1920 x 1080) on high previously and getting nice smooth FPS (Don't know exactly what FPS i was getting, it was smooth, so I never bothered checking)
Now, however, I'm getting only about 20-30 FPS when I'm alone, and 5-10 FPS in a match, and that's at 1920 x 1080 windowed (matches my desktop) with all settings set to low.
I'm at a loss. I've updated the video card drivers with no effect. I've overclocked the card to 900mhz (up from 300mhz) and gotten no noticeable increase in performance.

Running into the same problem with nearly identical specs.

[unreal icarus]

We should wait until some officials tell us how to fix this bug. Overclocking and risking damage on your hardware is NO solution.
Anyway this sucks so hard, the game is no fun this way

[Tarl Cabot]

unreal icarus, on 17 October 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

We should wait until some officials tell us how to fix this bug. Overclocking and risking damage on your hardware is NO solution.
Anyway this sucks so hard, the game is no fun this way

No one is telling them to overclock anything at this point. One poster said he increased his GPU speed but that only puts strain on the system.

In fact, for the laptop use Afterburner and bump your GPU speeds down 50 pts and test.

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 18 October 2013 - 06:07 AM.

[unreal icarus]

50 pts? what is pts?

[Tarl Cabot]

unreal icarus, on 18 October 2013 - 06:37 AM, said:

50 pts? what is pts?

Using MSI Afterburner, drop the GPU core and memory speeds by 50 pts each. So, instead of overclocking, you will be underclocking the GPU. Use it as a test run, to let you see if there are any benefits. The GPU will still be pegged out but by reducing its overall speed the heat being generated should also decrease, thus preventing the CPU/GPU from throttling their speeds.

I would also consider redoing the heatsinks thermal compounds.

Besides MWO, have you had time to run any of the programs to stress test your system CPU and GPU?

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 18 October 2013 - 07:36 AM.

[unreal icarus]

i will give it a try. i did not have issues with other games.

[StainlessSR]

also, is your cooling pad moving air in the correct direction
ie:
bottom of laptop is out but cooling pad is blowing up = no air
bottom of laptop is in but cooling pad is blowing down = no air

should have:
bottom of laptop is out, cooling pad is blowing down = better cooling\
bottom of laptop is in, cooling pad is blowing up = better cooling

[unreal icarus]

unnderclocking doesnt change anything ...
the cooling pad is right ...