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#21 Farix

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 06:56 PM

I've owned a Naga Hex for nearly 3 months now and couldn't be happier. In hindsight I probably should have when for the regular Naga, but I haven't had a bit of trouble with it so far. Of course, after some of my finger crude builds up on it, it may be a different story. We will have to see how well it deals with finger crude.

However, from what I hear, Razer's quality is very dependent on the type of product. Their mice are generally pretty solid, but their keyboards and microphones are pretty much {Scrap} (and the launch event pretty much proved that).

#22 Catamount

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:39 AM

It's true that mice were where Razer largely built its original reputation, back when they sold good products for decent prices. Perhaps they still aren't too bad. That said, they still tend to get very mediocre average user reviews.

I think I'll stick with the G500/G700.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 12:11 PM

Going back 3-4 years Razer gear were the very best peripherals that money could purchase. My older, now 2nd computer that's at my GF's place has a Razer KB, mouse, cable weight, headset etc. All rock solid after several years of heavy use.

I have to say that the construction quality & longevity of current Razer gear is not what it used to be. I've recently swapped to a Roccat Kone XTD mouse & couldn't be happier. The driver GUI is the stuff of nightmares but the mouse itself is the best I've ever used.

*shrug* I used to be a hard-core Razer fan. Now? Not so much. Apparently at some point quality became a distant second to profit, whereas it used to be a much closer second.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 12:39 PM

Razer Orbweaver for my left hand + Logitech G300 for my right hand = good enough controls for me.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 01:08 PM

I've used a Razer Naga mmo gaming mouse for 14 months now, and it's still going strong.

Tell your stupid friends to stop spewing mountain dew all over the hardware everytime they hear a girl's voice on voice coms.

#26 Throe

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 03:36 PM

I've been using a Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 6000 for several years now, I've since purchased two more, and still own the original. I like the way it fits in my hand, I like the placement of the buttons, and I like it's performance, in terms of power consumption, reliability, and response. I know of an issue with the usb dongle, which causes it to short out, cease functioning, and generate enough heat to burn anyone attempting to remove it, but to date have not had the problem with any of mine.

I'm thinking for sure mine doesn't compare to 'gaming' mice, in general. I've never been even the slightest bit attracted to a 'gaming' mouse, though. I'm not sure what the lure is, to be honest.

Edited by Throet, 01 October 2013 - 03:51 PM.


#27 FriscoeHotsauce

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 04:04 PM

I love my Razer mouse. Sure, it was a little pricey, but it was a gift, and I couldn't be happier. I don't understand where the hate comes from, seems like a totally legit sponsor to me.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 04:17 PM

I have razer gear. It isn't my favorite but I've never had quality problems with them. I know they have been very supportive of MWO and have done what they can to help PGI and verify their product will work well with the game. They also provided all of the loot for the launch party tourney and the peripherals used for the tournament itself. If you had a single bad experience with them I don't think that makes it an embarrassment for PGI to be associated with them.

#29 Javenri

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 01:12 AM

View PostMgr Paine, on 30 September 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:

Just last week I noticed a Razer Logo at the bottom of a MWO page... Maybe it was the SF Competition or similar. I am very disappointed to see the Razer logo on anything right now much less MWO. For the simple fact that their warranty has just become a 15 day warranty on all products is its an absolute joke and and embarrassment to all gamers. You can no longer return the product to Best Buy or anywhere else (except Newegg of coarse) Keep in mind of you have an issue with there product whether its a defect or the keyboard you bought requires 2 usb ports to work and the packaging doesn't say you need 2 ports and you open the box for the first time 16 days after you bought it... your looking a 45 day turnaround. MWO you do not need THAT kind of support!!!


The 14 days period is for returning a product. Warranty can be found here: http://www.razerzone.com/warranty

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 10:18 AM

My N52 Guide...

I am a huge fan of the N52/Nostromo.

#31 Captain Stiffy

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 03:17 PM

Razer Naga MMO is the only mouse that I will ever use. If they stop making them I would have to become an electrical engineer when mine broke.

So yeah. +1 for Razer. The slimline keyboards they used to make were extremely awesome as well.

I have a LOT of direct IT and hardware experience - this is not a fanboi post. Razer stuff is by far the best I've ever used - crapping all over Logitech for the simple reason that Logitech has no logic to their designs - they just cram more needless junk on their stuff than they ever should and it makes for bulky and buggy products.

#32 Durant Carlyle

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 07:14 PM

I've had my Razer BlackWidow Ultimate 2013 keyboard and Razer Taipan mouse (along with a Razer Kabuto mouse mat) since February. No problems whatsoever. There are horror stories about every single company that makes computer products.

Am I a {Noble MechWarrior}? Not at all. I'd buy Logitech or SteelSeries or any others. I've had Logitech, Microsoft (Natural keyboard and original Optical mouse), Apple (for an iMac), and even generic {Scrap} I can't even remember the name for. The only one I've ever had a problem with is the Apple mouse -- the "ball" they have in place of the wheel wore out. Would I bad-mouth any of them? Nope, not even Apple. Computer hardware dies -- they don't make it like they used to.

#33 Sen

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 04:12 AM

Quote

Razer Naga MMO is the only mouse that I will ever use


My name is Sen (yes I'm an addict) and I approve the above quote.

I had the misfortune this weekend of being in Worst Buy, when I came across the new 2014 naga redesign. I thought there wasn't much room for improvement over last year's model, and I was WRONG! Naturally, my wife was more than a little upset that I bought yet ANOTHER mouse. . . mostly because she took one look at it and wanted to know where HERS was :angry:

<3 being married to a gamer ;)

Edited by Sen, 07 October 2013 - 04:12 AM.


#34 Falso

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:54 AM

+1 for the Razer Naga MMO!

I have been using this mouse for about 8 months VERY heavily, and have had no problems whatsoever.

I bought the Razer Naga MMO 2012 version which comes with 3 differently shaped side pieces to fit your hand perfectly.

I also have a Logitech G35 Headset that I bought at the same time and I love it too!

Both have high quality braided cloth covered cords, and I take VERY good care of them all, but everything gets dropped or yanked occasionally, and both have worked great!

For those who have a brand preference, just remember, every company makes high, mid and lower end products.

I can't speak to the "bang for the buck" because when I bought my Naga, I was for the first time wanting the best I could afford, and I poured over many many reviews, and chose the Naga not because of it's brand (I have mostly used logitech in the past just because it was what was available, worked and was reasonably priced) but because of it's quality and positive reviews not only for performance, but ease of use.

I am not a young gamer, and I was very happy with the VERY simple 1 - 12 button system that is default for the mouse, meaning out of the box, no programing needed, just map buttons 1 - 12 from your keyboard accordingly.

I am sure there are other mice by other companies that are just as good, maybe some are even better for less money, however, I have had such a good experience (you really should try a high quality gaming mouse, it's the difference between driving a delivery truck and a sports car with tunable suspension on a race track!!) I would never go to anything less.

The light crisp buttons, (if you have firearms, like the difference between a stock and tuned trigger!) the super accurate optics make all the difference in the world over a standard optical mouse. (don't forget a gaming quality mouse pad too!)

I used to use just higher DPI microsoft/logitech mice that were multi-purpose, and I have had such a good experience, I decided to buy last month for my birthday a Razer Nostromo game pad, and Blackwidow Ultimate keyboard to test out (I buy from Bestbuy of the things they usually stock in-store since I hate to buy a head-set, mouse or keypad that I can't first test to see how it fits me, if I have to order, usually I go with Newegg).

I like to have something in my hands to feel and see the quality of it, that is why I tend to go to Bestbuy for many things, and I had the nightmare experience of buying a lemon (I won't mention the PC manufacturer, and Bestbuy no longer sells their products) but I will say that I have had the exact opposite experience with Bestbuy.

They warrantied the product which failed with the first PC (first time HD, videocard AND ram died in days) the second time it was just a minor problem of a mini HDMI cable to HDMI adaptor not being provided (I would avoid any card that uses them, the sockets are very prone to being broken from the weight of a full sized HDMI cord) but Bestbuy fixed it all, and I have the high-end gaming PC that I wanted in the end for a bit more than I would have paid at Newegg (maybe $100 - $200 more) but with the support in-store that I could use in person, same day instead of mailing things made it all worth it to me.

I'm sure there are mice in different price points by many different manufacturers that might out-perform others, but never say "company X sucks!".

There are just as many examples of higher end quality car manufacturers making some lemons (Ferarri? Lamborghini anyone? :D ), but that doesn't mean the company as a whole makes junk. :D

Edited by Falso, 07 October 2013 - 10:58 AM.


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:14 AM

View PostNuclearPanda, on 30 September 2013 - 09:06 AM, said:

I use a a Nostromo keypad to play MWO and I happily love that damn thing to program all my laser spamming goodness. *shrugs* To each their own!

Razer bought the rights to the Belkin Nostromo n52 so it's not really their device in anything but the addition of the brand. I burned out my Belkin device and am quite happy with the new version.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 06:02 PM

View PostDEMAX51, on 01 October 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

Razer Orbweaver for my left hand + Logitech G300 for my right hand = good enough controls for me.


This is my current setup as well. I had a nostromo blow out unplugging and replugging it in so I bought an orbweaver and no longer hot plug the device.

I will hang my free dice as well even though the comms software is already uninstalled.

Edited by DerelictTomcat, 23 October 2013 - 06:02 PM.


#37 Valcrow

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 12:36 AM

I've tried a lot of logitech and razer stuff since I'm on a computer for both work and play. Logitech has slowly taken over my desk over the years though.

for me:

Logitech
-ergonomics better.
-drivers slightly better.
-Setpoint is annoying but improving.... an inch per decade.
-build quality better.
-uglier

Razer
-better marketing/sponsored events
-cool themed stuff if you're into that sorta thing
-better middle button. (serious... logitech middle buttons are terrible. scrolly middle glowy button on razers are usually awesome)
-looks badass
-rubbery finish attracts all kinds of nasties
-lighter

I recently bought a G710+ mechanical keyboard to try out. It's build quality is superb, heavy as a brick, and has very satisfying clicks, macro functions and backlights. My G15 at work feels all mushy now. :/ A word of warning though... much louder than regular keyboards when typing fast... but..oh so. satisfying.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 12:33 PM

Every manufacturer is a YMMV affair. I'm not a supporter of Razer anymore after going through 2 Onza gamepads in a 4 month period (same drifting right stick input while on center) and a first gen BlackWidow Ultimate whose keycaps decided that staying together was not a good idea. I am by no means abusive on hardware, these items just failed. Those issues really turned me off of them.
I've since found better options for mechanical keyboards. I'm currently using a Tesoro Durandal customized by maxkeyboard.com, and mousing on either a Logitech G9x or ASUS GX1000 ROG (won it in a contest but it seems solid so far).

#39 Iacov

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 07:56 AM

i'd very much apreaciate MWO-themed razer stuff

i like merchandise!

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 04:31 PM

I've got a Naga Molten that's over 2 years old and going fine. Most of my friends have original Nagas that are older than that, with no failing mice.

Personally, I like the Logitech G600 better (and the G13 over the Nostramo), so I've switched to entirely Logitech hardware except for my work machines, but the Razer stuff works.





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