Does Anyone Run A Military Style Unit?
#1
Posted 03 October 2013 - 08:11 PM
Maybe im just being overly hopeful, but I was hoping with CW coming sometime soon that people would be training so that when conquering planets it isnt just a sweep.
Let me know what you guys think.
#2
Posted 07 October 2013 - 11:03 PM
http://www.sarna.net...itary_structure
As you will see lances are not all one class of mechs the pic below is what they sold as an assault lance for the board game
#3
Posted 07 October 2013 - 11:39 PM
Not all lances were made up of specific weight classes but more around what battlefield roles that the mechs could perform. The issue with MWO is that right now, roles are limited.
#4
Posted 07 October 2013 - 11:42 PM
Iron, on 07 October 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:
[edit] From what I've read, lance organisation is focused on Weight classes - or rather, it incorporates a specific amount of 'Mechs from different categories that should be present for a lance to qualify as a Light, Heavy, Medium or Assault Lance, and these are the "official" categories.
However, it stands to reason that the commander of the regiment would employ these lances in a manner that befits to their capacity, so for example most Light Lances would be used either for recon or hit & run attacks, depending on the specific 'Mechs that make up the unit, and ad-hoc tactical considerations.
An example for House Kurita:
"The Draconis Combine Mustered Soldiers (also known as DCMS or Arm of the Dragon) depends on Light 'Mech Lances as its backbone in battle. The quickness and maneuverability of these lances was key to the early successes against the Lyran Commonwealth in the First Succession War. Many Kurita Light 'Mech units contain Jenner BattleMechs (a favourite of Minoru Kurita's) and Panther BattleMechs (produced by the illustrious Gorton, Kingsley, and Thorpe Enterprises).
There are no standard BattleMechs for Medium 'Mech units. These standby units are created from whatever 'Mechs the Combine can spare, with any dregs, wrecks, and scrap metal commandeered into the units.
Although the Draconis Combine has a wide variety of heavy 'Mechs, Heavy units usually contain Quickdraw and Dragon BattleMechs (both from Luthien Armor Works). Luthien Armor also produces the Charger BattleMech, which is found abundantly in Assault 'Mech units."
- Handbook House Kurita p.121, The Pillar of Steel, Organization of Military Units
I, too, would like to see unit coordination closer to how it works in the novels and sourcebooks, if only because I like the roleplaying aspect of it.
Edited by Kyone Akashi, 07 October 2013 - 11:55 PM.
#5
Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:14 AM
Please understand that by saying RP, I'm not assuming you want to wear a hand knitted coolant vest and play the game inside a cardboard, dining chair and blanket recreation of a MadCat cockpit (an idea my 5 year old came up with, I scoffed at, but turned out to be completely awesome) - I'm saying instead that the type of unit/structure you are after is... less than optimal in this particular game.
A traditional BT company will usually be humiliatingly annihilated in your typical 12 man MWO drop, as the very mediums that make up the bulk of BT units are little more than free kills in truly competitive play. Similarly, a lance dedicated solely to a particular role (support, scouting etc) and operating autonomously will usually lose the flexibility required to survive against a similarly sized, more flexible enemy. Unless of course it's a lance of spiders... or boom Yagers. My god.
If it's the tactics you're after, you'll probably find that most 12 mans are very tactical indeed, but on a smaller, less 'strategic' scale than the books or lore presents. You'll need finesse, good comms and a good commander to survive in that queue.
I daresay you could also easily convince any guildmates to drop in a more traditional BT structure. Just get them liquored up beforehand.
Just ask to join any of the units here, and that will be a good start.
Edit: googled 'cardboard cockpit' - to the shed!
Edited by Kiiyor, 08 October 2013 - 12:16 AM.
#6
Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:48 AM
Kyle Wright, on 03 October 2013 - 08:11 PM, said:
Maybe im just being overly hopeful, but I was hoping with CW coming sometime soon that people would be training so that when conquering planets it isnt just a sweep.
Let me know what you guys think.
Well, if its a military-style unit you're looking for, the Skye Rangers are definitely that. See my sig for the link.
#7
Posted 08 October 2013 - 01:01 AM
#8
Posted 15 October 2013 - 01:47 PM
Kyle Wright, on 03 October 2013 - 08:11 PM, said:
Maybe im just being overly hopeful, but I was hoping with CW coming sometime soon that people would be training so that when conquering planets it isnt just a sweep.
Let me know what you guys think.
Howdy Kyle,
My unit MNC, is run in a military fashion but it's not role play. Canon and lore are not factors in our operational method. We are organized to fit into the B-tech realm to help others see/find a commonality but that's it. We are more geared/focused toward online competitive play.
We have a chain of command that is appointed on performance. In game, not outside of it. All our Commanders or "Drop Commanders" (DC's) as we call them can effectively command in battle (in the game). Wins - Victories are the only currency. Assemble and equip a proper drop team and execute a victory result will gain you awards and recognition amongst your teammates and ultimately earning more opportunities to lead. Plain and simple.
#9
Posted 15 October 2013 - 02:10 PM
As far as dividing up lances into assault, recon, support... It works in some situations but maybe not in others... The problem is until we have more idea what situation we are dropping into its really hard to prepare.
#10
Posted 15 October 2013 - 02:35 PM
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#11
Posted 19 October 2013 - 04:21 PM
#12
Posted 20 November 2013 - 09:07 AM
Edited by h4t3r4d3, 20 November 2013 - 09:07 AM.
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