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#1 AEixilimar

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 05:28 PM

is it just me or does a medium Pulse laser and a, AC-20 seem a bit off the top for a load out?

In my opinion I know this goes against a book or two, but why not force these lasers to use batteries? or at least make the laser have a charge up time as well, because light is not instantly emitted at such a high concentration! it takes tiem for us to power up powerful enough lasers to cut through some metal, and it takes them instantly to melt through like a foot thick of Armour on these mechs?

Edited by AEixilimar, 04 October 2013 - 05:30 PM.


#2 DrxAbstract

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 06:42 PM

Cant tell if serious...

If you are, then lol...

And: Batteries are essentially storage devices for potential electrical current via chemical reactions. They emit electrical current slowly as they can only produce electricity as quickly as the chemical reaction occurs. The device you're referring to is a capacitor, which can store and expel electrical current quickly but cannot create it. Which is what lasers in battletech use, along with the gauss rifle, only not as much. What do you think the recycle time for lasers is for? It's not a balance mechanic PGI invented.

Fusion reactors efficiently create enormous amounts of electricity from water, one of the many reasons why such technology is so desperately sought after in the real world. So think for a moment - what happens when you pair a massive power source with a piece of equipment capable of very rapidly storing and expelling electrical energy? You get a short-duration laser beam...

Also: Battletech armor is not 'foot' thick... In fact it's considerably thinner than even the composite armors used on our very own modern tanks.

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 07:44 PM

View PostAEixilimar, on 04 October 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

is it just me or does a medium Pulse laser and a, AC-20 seem a bit off the top for a load out?

In my opinion I know this goes against a book or two, but why not force these lasers to use batteries? or at least make the laser have a charge up time as well, because light is not instantly emitted at such a high concentration! it takes tiem for us to power up powerful enough lasers to cut through some metal, and it takes them instantly to melt through like a foot thick of Armour on these mechs?


No you really want the Devs to stop nerfing MWO. The game is becoming a "Steaming Pile of Nerfs" now with the Gauss removal nerf at the top of the list. You should also not be surprised that by nerfing all the long range weapons, PPCs and Gauss Rifles etc., that MWO has returned to the Bum-Rush AC20 and MLAS game it was in 2012. Not saying you can't use long range, but there is no reason to anymore.

#4 Wilhelm Fraek

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 07:47 PM

well in defense of the ML what other option do we have? SL are useless, If i could fire SL like in the battletech cartoon i might use them.

#5 AEixilimar

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 07:23 AM

Wow.. why does everyone go straight to nering?

I am not talking about nerfing, but rather certain weapons can only go on certain hard points, while the SRM can only be locked on at a certain range rather than being rate in your face and launching as well as you wouldn't have this super intense laser instantly firing at you it would be obviously a gradual charge and the batteries would just act as a way to charge it faster.

#6 NRP

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 08:10 AM

Shut up with the nerfing suggestions. Seriously.

#7 BUDFORCE

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 08:13 AM

I still actually think that hes gonna make a post a day later and say "nahhh only kidding!".

#8 Kenyon Burguess

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 08:15 AM

View PostAEixilimar, on 04 October 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

is it just me or does a medium Pulse laser and a, AC-20 seem a bit off the top for a load out?

In my opinion I know this goes against a book or two, but why not force these lasers to use batteries? or at least make the laser have a charge up time as well, because light is not instantly emitted at such a high concentration! it takes tiem for us to power up powerful enough lasers to cut through some metal, and it takes them instantly to melt through like a foot thick of Armour on these mechs?


ac20 +mpl = 26 < 6 ml = 30 and the mpl shortens the range.

#9 Levon K

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 09:36 AM

OP got burnt by AC/20 + M Pulse

Therefore AC/20 + M Pulse is OP

.QED

#10 Krivvan

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 10:11 AM

That's not only not OP, that's not even really viable...

Is there some certain 1 AC20 1 MPL build that you think is OP? On what mech?

#11 King Picollo

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 10:47 AM

Easily countered by maintaining even tiniest of ranges, that build can surely only be viable if you get right into someone's face.

#12 Blue Boutique

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 12:35 PM

Just went piloting a HBK-4G with a AC/20 and a MPLS in the cockpit. Sure it can wreck some heavies in a fight but once the right torso is wrecked, the mech is only dangerous to -50% mechs.(to be honest though, the other HBK are much more dangerous due to the fact that they carry more energy weapons for MLs.)

Edited by Blue Boutique, 05 October 2013 - 12:37 PM.


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Posted 05 October 2013 - 03:20 PM

View PostAEixilimar, on 04 October 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

is it just me or does a medium Pulse laser and a, AC-20 seem a bit off the top for a load out?

In my opinion I know this goes against a book or two, but why not force these lasers to use batteries? or at least make the laser have a charge up time as well, because light is not instantly emitted at such a high concentration! it takes tiem for us to power up powerful enough lasers to cut through some metal, and it takes them instantly to melt through like a foot thick of Armour on these mechs?


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#14 Pastor Priest

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 06:00 PM

What?! Just... What?!

So, what would you consider AC20, twin MLAS and SRMs?

#15 Xeno Phalcon

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 06:07 PM

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#16 IceCase88

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 08:44 PM

No one will be happy until PGI nerfs the red team and buffs the blue team.

#17 Hexenhammer

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 08:51 PM

View PostIceCase88, on 05 October 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

No one will be happy until PGI nerfs the red team and buffs the blue team.


I'm absolutly staggered by the brilliance of this suggestion.





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