

Shadowhawk Early Pic
#41
Posted 08 October 2013 - 01:56 PM
#44
Posted 08 October 2013 - 02:02 PM
Bishop Steiner, on 08 October 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:
I would be A-ok with that
But I can say with 99.9% certainty that this is what we will get:

It could be worse, but it is at least one of the better hitboxes in mwo if you ignore the crotch CT, and the LT and RT sitting on top of the CT.
And ofc how it should look:

Edited by Carrioncrows, 08 October 2013 - 02:19 PM.
#45
Posted 08 October 2013 - 02:13 PM
Bishop Steiner, on 08 October 2013 - 01:11 PM, said:
Unfortunately this. It seems to me like the SHD is only slightly shorter than the BLR, roughly trebuchet size. Maybe line up the laser housing size on the SHD arm to the laser housing on the BLR chest? Or perhaps missile tube circle size? I think the weapons all use the same size mesh, but I could be wrong.
Edited by Rizzelbizzeg, 08 October 2013 - 02:14 PM.
#46
Posted 08 October 2013 - 02:18 PM
Rizzelbizzeg, on 08 October 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:
Unfortunately this. It seems to me like the SHD is only slightly shorter than the BLR, roughly trebuchet size. Maybe line up the laser housing size on the SHD arm to the laser housing on the BLR chest? Or perhaps missile tube circle size? I think the weapons all use the same size mesh, but I could be wrong.
unfortunately they aren't. Put a PPC on BJ and then one on an Orion and you get totally different scales.
#47
Posted 08 October 2013 - 02:19 PM
Bishop Steiner, on 08 October 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:
Aww bummer

Missile holes, tho? Those might at least get you close? I guess it doesn't really matter at this point, we shall see in a week!
Edited by Rizzelbizzeg, 08 October 2013 - 02:21 PM.
#48
Posted 08 October 2013 - 02:42 PM
mwhighlander, on 08 October 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:
Otherwise, not rediculously fat at least. So thats a plus


Bad news, the Shadowhawk is about as tall (if not taller) than a cataphract, which is 15 tons bigger.
The good news, its alot thinner.
The bad new, PGI is living up to their standards of {Scrap} scalling. I am dissapoint.
wow i was just clicking over to the training grounds to do that comparison. looks like i don't have to now.
but yeah its going to be massive.
lol you'd think they scaled these off of Dougram, where these mechs were actually the same size because they were in the same weight in that universe.
Edited by Jin Ma, 08 October 2013 - 02:49 PM.
#49
Posted 08 October 2013 - 02:59 PM
Now I'm not sure what to think about it, as usual they could make it less tall (as the Trebuchet is too tall for its size), I guess that the good old mechs will keep on going to miss new friends in my hangar. Glad I didn't went Phoneix.
Edited by John MatriX82, 08 October 2013 - 02:59 PM.
#50
Posted 08 October 2013 - 03:53 PM
John MatriX82, on 08 October 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:
Now I'm not sure what to think about it, as usual they could make it less tall (as the Trebuchet is too tall for its size), I guess that the good old mechs will keep on going to miss new friends in my hangar. Glad I didn't went Phoneix.
I think I'll wait til I see REAL size comparisons. None posted on here are remotely "able to stand up in court".
#51
Posted 08 October 2013 - 04:14 PM
The hitboxes, on the otherhand, have me worried most. We already have CT Cored Warrior Online - which is pretty bad in comparison to previous Mech Warrior games (at least 4 and LL) where you could be just a walking torso with nothing left in 90% of engagements.
Note that nobody here is really complaining about the looks of these Mechs (see, isn't that a plus?), the 3D models are excellent - its how they play that matters.
Edited by General Taskeen, 08 October 2013 - 04:17 PM.
#52
Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:31 PM
Lastly we have no good perspective so we really have no idea.
As of right now this looks like it might be the first medium I try.
#53
Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:22 PM
Bishop Steiner, on 08 October 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:
Not intended for your court sire. A minor effort to show its not quite as bad as it seems.
BH screen is taken from a POV above the "garage" causing it to look shorter than it is.
SH screen is taken from a POV below or even to the "garage" causing it to look taller than it is.
Comparing the 2 separate images fools people into believing they are the same height which they are not.
#54
Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:35 PM
CygnusX7, on 08 October 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:
Not intended for your court sire. A minor effort to show its not quite as bad as it seems.
BH screen is taken from a POV above the "garage" causing it to look shorter than it is.
SH screen is taken from a POV below or even to the "garage" causing it to look taller than it is.
Comparing the 2 separate images fools people into believing they are the same height which they are not.
Fully understandable, I get that, and appreciate it, just wish people would not take them as gospel. Without a fixed reference it's pretty bloody impossible to be sure, really the "closest" way atm would be to team drop on Crimson Strait, find the garage and have a teammate direct you to the reference. Then we might know.
#55
Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:48 PM
There are shadows in the picture. There is a vertical surface to the left of the Shadow Hawk with horizontal bars.
How many bars high on the door of that warehouse/hangar do you see when compared to a Victor and to a Centurion?
To me the Shadow Hawk appears to be as tall as the Centurion's left arm armored fin thingy, but not nearly as tall as the Victor.

#56
Posted 08 October 2013 - 07:06 PM
Hans Von Lohman, on 08 October 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:
There are shadows in the picture. There is a vertical surface to the left of the Shadow Hawk with horizontal bars.
How many bars high on the door of that warehouse/hangar do you see when compared to a Victor and to a Centurion?
To me the Shadow Hawk appears to be as tall as the Centurion's left arm armored fin thingy, but not nearly as tall as the Victor.

cool experiment. as long as these mechs are standing in the exact same position. it honestly comes out quite a bit taller than the centurion. Its going to be the tallest medium we have.
might try the same thing with the battlemaster to see how tall it is
udate:
its just a bit shorter than the highlander.

so at least the battlemaster is about the right size. I don't know what their obsession with oversized mediums is though
Edited by Jin Ma, 08 October 2013 - 07:27 PM.
#57
Posted 08 October 2013 - 07:23 PM
I did my best.
Edited by Hans Von Lohman, 08 October 2013 - 07:23 PM.
#58
Posted 08 October 2013 - 07:26 PM
Hans Von Lohman, on 08 October 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:
I did my best.
i mean its better than anything else we have right now. and really its probably the most accurate estimate of height we'v ever had on an unreleased mech
#59
Posted 08 October 2013 - 07:34 PM
I actually got the idea from Mythbusters about an episode dealing with debunking myths about the Apollo moon landings photo's being faked or real.
#60
Posted 08 October 2013 - 07:37 PM
Hans Von Lohman, on 08 October 2013 - 07:34 PM, said:
I actually got the idea from Mythbusters about an episode dealing with debunking myths about the Apollo moon landings photo's being faked or real.
It's actually some damn fine work.
Best thing we have so far like Jin Ma said, and certainly better than speculation. However, all this will be put to the test in 7 (almost 6 days now) days when they finally launch.
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