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[PEEFsmash]

Time to deliver on a promise.

PEEFsmash, on 10 October 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

If this ["Lights Need To Be Nerfed"] thread survives through the night, I'm going to make two threads, both identical to yours, but with the words "heavy" and "assault" replacing "light"

Inspired by the immortal words of "kongman".......

"just as the title says , assaults need to be nerfed in a huge way .nothing more to add really ."

Edited by PEEFsmash, 11 October 2013 - 09:34 AM.

[Roland]

Dude, you know it's not gonna make him any less of an *****. He's still gonna be like, "LIGHTS KILLED ME. HAX."

[Khavi Vetali]

I hear assaults can carry more weapons than my hunchback. That just isn't fair. Definitely not balanced.

[Lyoto Machida]

Some people think that pretty girls need to be nerfed as well. A lot of Assault class chicks out there think they're OP since their builds are sitting around underutilized.

[MischiefSC]

Absolutely. DEATH TO ASSAULT MECHS! They should have to pick one weapon hardpoint. They already have so much armor, giving them the most weapons too is just unfair and unfun.

I believe all mechs, regardless of weight, should have to fall within the exact same range of DPS. Some mechs are slower but with more armor, some are faster with less armor and all of them should get slightly different paint jobs.

That would be balanced!

All the above was sarcasm btw.

Lights don't need 'nerfed'. Lights are *hard* to do WELL in. They require a lot of focus and energy and attention and one KTO-18 with BAP and 5 Streaks will wreck them in piles. They are dangerous in wolfpacks - so are atlases. Just that 1 or 2 atlases can normally wreck face together all day long where as it takes 4 or 5 spiders/Jenners to do the same. It's the tendency of lights to travel in tight-knit and mutually-supportive packs that makes them dangerous. It's the pilots not being foolish, not the mechs themselves. Yes, it's hard to hit a spider traveling at 151kph. It has less torso armor than your heavy has on its arm. If it wasn't hard to hit it'd just be a free kill.

The problem isn't the mechs, the problem is the pilots. When in a light you're painfully aware of how vulnerable you are and so you have to play more intelligently and you're keenly aware of the help your fellow pilots provide. Hell yes my 5D spider uses his ECM bubble to scoot back and protect allies when the LRMs start to fall and when my team is moving in on the enemy I scamper around the back to throw that disruptive ECM field over the enemy LRM boats to give my guys time to advance. Doing so will create that big, disorganized brawl I can exploit to do real damage. I see someone chasing a fellow light I take the opportunity to light his back up because I know that other light pilot will probably do the same for me.

Bluntly people tend to pilot better in a light. They have to, they're playing in Hardcore mode where one hit kills them. It's not the mechs though, it's the pilots. When Heavy/Assault pilots play with the same focus as Light pilots they get called syncdropping tryhards. I dropped with 3 friends in 4 Atlases, all on our A-game and we rolled 23 games of straight victory. I'm not that great a pilot but being focused and working tight with a team trumps every single other factor in the game.

Lights just have to do that all the time to break even.

[Joseph Mallan]

Roland, on 11 October 2013 - 09:23 AM, said:

Dude, you know it's not gonna make him any less of an *****. He's still gonna be like, "LIGHTS KILLED ME. HAX."

LOL Lights kill lots of people thanks to both good pilots and bad hit reg on them.

[Tsig]

I am ashamed that I actually live in the same state as PEEF...it feels like I'm becoming dirty just being here.

[PEEFsmash]

Tsig, on 11 October 2013 - 09:32 AM, said:

I am ashamed that I actually live in the same state as PEEF...it feels like I'm becoming dirty just being here.

I'm guessing you were raised on a corn farm devoid of sarcasm and humor?

[Ngamok]

Khavi Vetali, on 11 October 2013 - 09:23 AM, said:

I hear assaults can carry more weapons than my hunchback. That just isn't fair. Definitely not balanced.

Your HBK-4P has less than 7 hard points?

[giganova]

OP needs to be nerfed.

[Tsig]

PEEFsmash, on 11 October 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:

I'm guessing you were raised on a corn farm devoid of sarcasm and humor?

I was raised with plenty of sarcasm and humor...doesn't change the fact that I'm ashamed to be living in the same state as you.

[MustrumRidcully]

Easily solved. Simply increase the weight of the Assault mech internal structure by 100 %. Now they can equip less weapons or have to sacrifice armour.



On a slightly more serious mode: I observe that the Assault thread got replies faster than your Heavy mech thread. Coincidence?

[Ngamok]

Tsig, on 11 October 2013 - 09:32 AM, said:

I am ashamed that I actually live in the same state as PEEF...it feels like I'm becoming dirty just being here.

Ditto.

And Go Boilers! Even though they are sucking atm.

Edited by Ngamok, 11 October 2013 - 09:53 AM.

[Dugra Dugrasson]

PEEFsmash, on 11 October 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:

I'm guessing you were raised on a corn farm devoid of sarcasm and humor?

Hey, you're from B-Town! That's awesome! Lived there sixteen years. Great place, huh?

[PEEFsmash]

nodebate, on 11 October 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

Hey, you're from B-Town! That's awesome! Lived there sixteen years. Great place, huh?

It's a fantastic place to live and study. I only have maybe 6 more months here until grad school, so I'm getting nostalgic already.