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Sneak Peek: Shadow Hawk Phoenix Battlemech


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#61 Deathlike

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:22 PM

So, mechs I'm looking forward to...
Locust
Shadow Hawk
Thunderbolt
Battlemaster

Deathlike said:

So, mechs I'm looking forward to shooting...
Locust
Shadow Hawk
Thunderbolt
Battlemaster


That is the current state of the PP in a nutshell.

I can only fear for the people being in the Thunderbolt's cockpit, suffering from Hunchback-itis.

Edited by Deathlike, 12 October 2013 - 02:23 PM.


#62 Deathlike

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:27 PM

View Postdymlos2003, on 12 October 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Look at all the people who don't play mediums complain about mediums... Wait it's the usual people, moving along.


Nope.

Played every medium, minus the KTO (which, initially suffered awful hitboxes of lolcore) and I liked most of them... I hated the Trebuchets other than the 7K which is the only salvageable one.

This is an atrocity and it's not hard to see why.

I often wonder if the art-side ever fight/complain to the balance/Paul/hitbox guy side when they have to deal with bad designs...

Edited by Deathlike, 12 October 2013 - 02:34 PM.


#63 Arnold J Rimmer

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 02:47 PM

View Postdymlos2003, on 12 October 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Look at all the people who don't play mediums complain about mediums... Wait it's the usual people, moving along.


Pretty much exclusively play Mediums - Hunchback, Kintaro, Centurion, Blackjack, all various variants. Have started in on Orions due to nostalgia and own a Sarah's Jenner, but that's it.

#64 Mahpsy

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 03:23 PM

I agree that the shadow hawk might be a little too tall, but think about it. The best thing for a medium to really do right now(if you not a cicada) is to support your heavier or lighter mechs. I mostly pilot my centurion and I almost never run in to brawl. 90% of the time im next to an assault or heavy being a support because if I stick out my head anywhere im target number 1. I could be the furthest person back and ill still get focused down(even though it might just be my paint job on anything other than a snow map lol). But ya, being support, not going in guns a blazing.

#65 Detrimus

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 03:38 PM

I'm just annoyed these look nothing like the concept art. No decals. Colors much different. :/

#66 Carrioncrows

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 04:14 PM

Trying to contain my disappointment.

Failed.

Posted Image

It is such a STUPID EASY SILLY preventable mistake and yet EVERY TIME.

2 SECONDS TO ASK ANYONE with eye sight good enough to see earth from where they are sitting, "HEY is this too big?"

"Yeah man, scale it down a bit."

"OK!"

You're Q / A department is missing a serious step.

This definitely does not inspire confidence in the saber pack.

#67 Armored Yokai

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:15 PM

Sweet i hope its head hitbox is big too

#68 Arnold J Rimmer

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:19 PM

Triple posting is for winners.

#69 aniviron

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 06:40 PM

View PostDeathlike, on 12 October 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

I can only fear for the people being in the Thunderbolt's cockpit, suffering from Hunchback-itis.


You should really be afraid of the ones your team. "Oh sorry sorry sorry! The crosshairs were 10m to the left, but it shot you instead! I mean, it was just your rear armor though, right? No biggie?:

#70 Dymlos2003

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 07:14 PM

View PostFlying Judgement, on 12 October 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

there is not a single satisfied customer.
it says something...

why would i have a mech what i cant enjoy ?
bechause it will looks pretty in my mech bay?
thanks
im so sad
i thought i gona have a great medium mech what i can enjoy at last so disappointed :huh: :'(

pls scale it down at least a little im


Stop talking like you're talking for all of us, I'm satisfied with my purchase and you're over reacting

#71 Cerlin

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:59 PM

How can you know if you are satisfied if you have not used a product? You cannot. I do not know if I will like it. I have liked all my mediums so far and I even enjoy my quickdraws. So we will see.

Speak for yourself folks, do not pretend you are the pastors and protectors of the community. Thanks for your time.

#72 Deathlike

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:26 PM

View PostCarrioncrows, on 12 October 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

Trying to contain my disappointment.

Failed.

Posted Image

It is such a STUPID EASY SILLY preventable mistake and yet EVERY TIME.

2 SECONDS TO ASK ANYONE with eye sight good enough to see earth from where they are sitting, "HEY is this too big?"

"Yeah man, scale it down a bit."

"OK!"

You're Q / A department is missing a serious step.

This definitely does not inspire confidence in the saber pack.


Well, one mech already suffers from "everything is on the right side"... which is far worse than a Hunchback.

HAVE FUN!

#73 Corvus Antaka

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:28 PM

its quite thin though.

#74 Flying Judgement

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 12:02 AM

View Postdymlos2003, on 12 October 2013 - 07:14 PM, said:

Stop talking like you're talking for all of us, I'm satisfied with my purchase and you're over reacting

ur right im better not reading the forums on Saturday nights drunk and tired.
Still its looks really good but, the legs seems to tall same with the locust
But in the other hand they did fix the awesome too.
By now its possible to go with them and make serious damage without dieing after 60 second. My concern is that it take almost 8 mount to fix the hitboxes and nerf the LRMs

well any way i like challenge! For sure i come up with some suitable playstyle the game getting boring at least i can think about an unusual strategy I really shouldn't complain it can be a good thing.

I just thought i going to get at least one easy hero medium mech. A mech like the BJ-1, HBK-4SP or TBT-7M.
Well its time to wake up, and see how do they work.

#75 Jin Ma

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 05:17 AM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 12 October 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

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hahaha classic PGI.

wish we had a comics like this for past stuff too. to document each of PGI's shenanigan

Edited by Jin Ma, 13 October 2013 - 05:20 AM.


#76 IIIuminaughty

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 05:26 AM

Shadow hawk is too legit!

#77 Strum Wealh

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 12:32 PM

So, once it's in-game, will anyone post the height (preferably, the "scalp height" - that is, sans any antennae and such) of the actual model? ;)

Assuming the Shadow Hawk is around 14.4 meters tall, it would be fairly close to where it "should be" by way of scaling versus the MWO Atlas (which is ~17.6 meters tall), though up to ~15.1-15.2 meters (that is, a ~5% variance) is arguably close enough to be a negligible issue. :(

#78 Waylander40K

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 12:59 PM

High mounted weapons (firing from cover), speed and JJ's should make this a effective mech, even if tall in comparison with other mediums.

Edited by Waylander40K, 13 October 2013 - 01:00 PM.


#79 Vassago Rain

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 01:00 PM

View PostStrum Wealh, on 13 October 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

So, once it's in-game, will anyone post the height (preferably, the "scalp height" - that is, sans any antennae and such) of the actual model? ;)

Assuming the Shadow Hawk is around 14.4 meters tall, it would be fairly close to where it "should be" by way of scaling versus the MWO Atlas (which is ~17.6 meters tall), though up to ~15.1-15.2 meters (that is, a ~5% variance) is arguably close enough to be a negligible issue. :(


Yes, I'm usually the first one to do so, but you can already tell it's gonna be a total bust like the quickdraw.

#80 Strum Wealh

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 02:25 PM

View PostVassago Rain, on 13 October 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:


Yes, I'm usually the first one to do so, but you can already tell it's gonna be a total bust like the quickdraw.

Though, how tall is the Quickdraw (again, preferably its "scalp height"), in meters? ;)

Without knowing the actual height in meters, I would predict the Quickdraw (as a 60-ton upright humanoid) to be on the order of ~14.84 meters tall, with a ~5% variation allowing for heights up to ~15.58 meters to still fall within the realm of "arguably acceptable".

Likewise, the Shadow Hawk (as a 55-ton upright humanoid) would be predicted to be on the order of ~14.42 meters tall (or up to ~15.14 meters, given a ~5% variation), the Thunderbolt (as a 65-ton upright humanoid) would be predicted to be on the order of ~15.25 meters tall (or up to ~16.01 meters, given a ~5% variation), and the BattleMaster (as an 85-ton upright humanoid) would be predicted to be on the order of ~16.67 meters tall (or up to ~17.50 meters, given a ~5% variation).

It would be interesting to see the actual heights of the models, to see how close all of the above actually gets... :(

Edited by Strum Wealh, 13 October 2013 - 02:26 PM.






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