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[Rabcor]

Here is link, the original poster is worrying about if MWO (considered as a failure) is a warning sign of how Star Citizen will fail.

I of course disagreed seeing as the star citizen development is much much much better organized than the development of MWO, but couldn't help but notice all the amusing posts, especially the pictures, there's a lot of rage in there as well as "white knights"

Was fun to read, a lot of good points are made about MWO's failings in there, i agree with most of them but despite them all still think this game is the most fun MOBA available.

[TychoTheItinerant]

http://themittani.co...ure-communicate I think this pretty much sums up exactly why MWO is doomed to failure and why PGI is terrible.

[Rabcor]

it really does... and it's right, metacritic gives the game only a 64/100, and the user score is even lower as 5.3.

Pgi seems to have shot themselves in the legs with an autocannon, but do they really care i wonder...

Edited by Rabcor, 14 October 2013 - 01:09 PM.

[Roadbeer]

Welcome to K Town

Have some cake.

[Chavette]

I figured it out, people post in k-town while waiting for a match to end, because their lousy skills got them melted in the first two minutes. The more they post here, the worse it means they play. Ties in perfectly with the goons. Its perfect!

[Ter Ushaka]

[TychoTheItinerant]

Rabcor, on 14 October 2013 - 01:09 PM, said:

it really does... and it's right, metacritic gives the game only a 64/100, and the user score is even lower as 5.3.

Pgi seems to have shot themselves in the legs with an autocannon, but do they really care i wonder...

They're just trying to find an optimal window to bail on MWO with as much money in their pockets as they can fit, without catching multiple boots in the *** from angry players and whatever laws would be applicable here.

[Heffay]

TychoTheItinerant, on 15 October 2013 - 01:28 AM, said:

They're just trying to find an optimal window to bail on MWO with as much money in their pockets as they can fit, without catching multiple boots in the *** from angry players and whatever laws would be applicable here.

[Roadbeer]

Chavette, on 14 October 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

I figured it out, people post in k-town while waiting for a match to end, because their lousy skills got them melted in the first two minutes. The more they post here, the worse it means they play. Ties in perfectly with the goons. Its perfect!

And yet, here you are

Cake?

[Rabcor]

But i didn't post in K Town i posted in off topic. I'll take that cake now

[Chavette]

Roadbeer, on 15 October 2013 - 05:02 AM, said:

And yet, here you are

Cake?

Never said I have nowhere to improve. The more you know...

[Lord Ikka]

Well, there are some true points to the story but you also have to look at the source- someone who paid $275 for the promise of a good game/ship and so far has only has a hangar to walk around in. Maybe when SC lives up to the massive hype that it has generated without any delays/changes I'll listen to one of their {Noble MechWarriors} talking about MWO failing (which it hasn't yet).

[Chavette]

Lord Ikka, on 15 October 2013 - 08:13 AM, said:

Well, there are some true points to the story but you also have to look at the source- someone who paid $275 for the promise of a good game/ship and so far has only has a hangar to walk around in.

Maybe because there isn't a game yet? Dumbest comment I've read in a week...

[Egomane]

To be quite honest... I don't see a huge discussion. Just the same users who complained and insulted here, doing it now over there. I'm surprised, that the moderators over there allow the type of hate speach, displayed in many of theses posts, even so it is clearly against their code of conduct.

[Rabcor]

Wat people aren't allowed to express their opinions freely here? If people are hating, it should be considered as feedback, negative feedback sure, but feedback still. If people hate it so much clearly there's something wrong...

At the SC forums people are allowed to say whatever they want, and express everything freely, just as long as they keep it reasonable (no "excessive" swearing or sexual language, racism or otherwise anything that can be offensive)

Rules

they've got pretty much freedom of speech as long as it's civilized, hating on something is still civilized unless you're insulting or offending a member of the forum directly.

Someone said he got banned off the MWO forums for posting this, it doesn't seem particularily insulting or offensive to me, just how he sees things and that's very good negative feedback one of many which PGI seems to completely ignore.

Edited by Rabcor, 15 October 2013 - 02:54 PM.

[Roadbeer]

Rabcor, on 15 October 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

Wat people aren't allowed to express their opinions freely here? If people are hating, it should be considered as feedback, negative feedback sure, but feedback still. If people hate it so much clearly there's something wrong...

At the SC forums people are allowed to say whatever they want, and express everything freely, just as long as they keep it reasonable (no "excessive" swearing or sexual language, racism or otherwise anything that can be offensive)

Rules

they've got pretty much freedom of speech as long as it's civilized, hating on something is still civilized unless you're insulting or offending a member of the forum directly.

Bet you 5 Interwebs

that it doesn't last long

game is EARLY beta.

[Egomane]

Rabcor, on 15 October 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

they've got pretty much freedom of speech as long as it's civilized, hating on something is still civilized unless you're insulting or offending a member of the forum directly.

I know those rules! And the posts of the anti-PGI crowd (not all, but some) are pretty much what I consider deeply insulting personal attacks (which are never covered by freedom of speech). It doesn't and shouldn't matter if those insulted are part of the community over there or not and the rules do not make such a distinction.

Edited by Egomane, 15 October 2013 - 02:53 PM.

[Rabcor]

I guess in a way that that is true insulting PGI as a company should be fine, they've done much to deserve it and they don't seem to be willing to do anything about past mistakes. But to insult it's individual members of said company is stepping over the line, i would agree.

However that post (which i edited) in my other post which some user got banned for didn't speak out directly to any member of PGI, in fact didn't say anything bad, it was just someone trying to explain why most of the original playerbase is mad at PGI.

Freedom of speech rules differentiate between countries. For example, wrongfully insulting someone (saying someone did something which he didn't do) is illegal, but insulting them for something they did do, they would have to disprove that it ever happened in order to make that statement illegal.

Edited by Rabcor, 15 October 2013 - 03:02 PM.

[Roadbeer]

Departing from my norm in K Town and actually remaining topical.

Looking through some of the posts and seeing the same names I've seen around here for a while, the FIRST moment that SC does something they don't like or agree with, like petulant children, they will ignite the forums over there, and keep it running needlessly ad nausium.

Good riddance, and actually, it's turned me off of wanting to try SC with them over there.

P.S. Once they do, that "Freedom of Speech" you bandy about having over there, will vaporize.
Used to be that way around here too early on.

Edited by Roadbeer, 15 October 2013 - 03:07 PM.

[Egomane]

Rabcor, on 15 October 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

I guess in a way that that is true insulting PGI as a company should be fine, they've done much to deserve it and they don't seem to be willing to do anything about past mistakes. But to insult it's individual members of said company is stepping over the line, i would agree.

No, that is not fine! Insulting a group is the same as insulting each individual in that group.

Insults are never fine! You can criticize (even on the MWO forums, we have many, many critical threads), but the moment you start using insults you disqualified yourself and your opinion. If you can not discuss with real arguments alone, you should consider leaving the argument, instead of leaving what's morally right behind you.

If you want to insult so badly, aim at the product, not at those creating it. Insult MWO all you want. Make fun of it! But the guys and gals making it are humans just like you and deserve to be treated with the same kind of respect, you would demand from anyone towards you.

Edited by Egomane, 15 October 2013 - 03:16 PM.