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[Skiss]

The longer we play with the ready up button the more I notice a negative effect on team chat and more. If you dont ready up right away you get harassed or worse, someone on your team takes it upon themselves to friendly fire you to show how unhappy they are with you.

For example today, I joined a match. Got distracted by the wait on ready so I went to do something and came back real quick and a few members on my team were very unhappy with me and the minute the game started friendly fire came my way. Once I finished slaying trolls I decided it was time to say something on the forums about this because its something I see more and more every game. Please remove the ready feature for pug play. It serves no purpose. By clicking the launch button you are saying you are ready. In group play a ready button is essential. Anyways let me know if other online players are experiencing some of the same negativity due to this.

Edit: Yes, I totally spelled Environment wrong.... go figure lol

Edited by Skiss, 14 October 2013 - 09:08 PM.

[Ari Dian]

Really funny when they team kill someone because they had to wait less than one minute.
So basicly they waste more than 10 minutes because they had to wait one.....

We had the difference experience yesterday. Someone was not hitting the ready and tried to provoke all on chat. Response from the team and the enemy: "Who cares". No one cared about him hitting ready or not.

I really cant understand why someone could go mad when they have to wait a bit. And if someone is going to teamkill because of this, this person has some serrious problems and need some help.
One minute is not this much. And even if all would go ready as soon as possible, it would be only 30-45 sec left on the timer. The waiting time for a match is sometimes longer than this.

[Kuritaclan]

Ari Dian, on 14 October 2013 - 09:54 PM, said:

Really funny when they team kill someone because they had to wait less than one minute.
So basicly they waste more than 10 minutes because they had to wait one.....

This sums it up. You think we would actually dealing here with many adults, since BT has a older fan-base. But the ready button turn out the behavior of teenagers.

Take it easy is the best advice.

[Shakespeare]

Impatient, negative PEOPLE are causing a negative environment. Address them like the children they are, and bathe yourself in their tears of impotent rage.

Edit: which is not to say you should be a troll and NOT ready. The button is a convenience for everyone. Most rage monkeys are assuming that you're not readying on purpose. Vicious cycle, that one. Ultimately, though, it's not worth RAWR RAGE MODE! Best advice is try and use it productively, either to chat with your fellow non-man-child mechwarriors, or to suggest a plan of attack - even if it's just at the lance level. This is as close to a real chat environment as we're going to get for a while, especially since nobody sticks around for more than 5 secs post game. Use it.

Edited by Shakespeare, 14 October 2013 - 10:51 PM.

[ClumsyKlutz]

I don't want to defend anyone, but while i don't agree with this type of behavior, i can understand the impatience.

C-bill awards have been significantly reduced, further aggravated by the 12 vs 12 mode which makes the average game longer.
So waiting another 30 or 40 seconds per match, reduces the c-bill-earnings per hour even further.

AND: To be honest, there is NO good reason for letting the other 23 people wait. Yes sure, you can wait 30 seconds, but you have to wait every match and that can accumulate to a lot of wasted time(time you cannot use to play the game) very fast.

In summary, the reactions are over the top, but the complaint is not. The button serves no purpose other than to annoy and reduce c-bill earnings.

[Ecto Cooler]

ClumsyKlutz, on 15 October 2013 - 12:43 AM, said:

In summary, the reactions are over the top, but the complaint is not. The button serves no purpose other than to annoy and reduce c-bill earnings.

You're really going to equate an extra 30-40 seconds of waiting to an intentional and purposeful way to reduce your C-Bill earnings? That's pretty extreme and absurd for obvious reasons.

The READY button is annoying when you see the team ready and there is only one or two stragglers who hold up the game for everyone else, some people even do it intentionally. I've learned to accept that you're going to have to wait each match with it being a bonus if it starts early.

[TB Freelancer]

Ecto Cooler, on 15 October 2013 - 04:29 AM, said:

The READY button is annoying when you see the team ready and there is only one or two stragglers who hold up the game for everyone else, some people even do it intentionally. I've learned to accept that you're going to have to wait each match with it being a bonus if it starts early.

Yeah, given what we've been handed, there's not much else you can do but live with it. Still, the BS we see now should never have even been made possible, switching everyone to a ready state if 2/3 of both teams click the button and 99.99% of the grief players experience right now would vanish.

[Clydewinder]

Ive had on several occasions a few load times that were long enough that when i finally dropped into the ready screen, i was nearly the last one to ready up.

it's not just "trolls" sitting there refusing to ready

[oldradagast]

The game environment has gone down hill. The "Ready" button, while not a bad idea, has brought the worst in people.

Yesterday on River City, somebody took command of the team and split up a premade. With about 10 seconds left, the premade clowns suddenly informed everyone what happened and got angry, but it was too late. So, they decided to team-kill the guy at the match start and then spend the rest of the match bragging about how it's "okay" to team-kill because their lance got split up. I wasn't involved in the mess, but I reported those whining brats anyway. While it's bad form to shuffle people around, it's worse form to say nothing about being a premade until 10 seconds remain on the clock and then team-killing the guy.

Premades should be flagged and locked so they can't be moved around, and the Ready button should blink so new players see it. Make those changes, and I think some of the worst of this new, childish behavior will disappear.

Edited by oldradagast, 15 October 2013 - 08:24 AM.

[Bilbo]

Kuritaclan, on 14 October 2013 - 10:22 PM, said:

This sums it up. You think we would actually dealing here with many adults, since BT has a older fan-base...

Visits to these forums should have disabused you of that notion long ago.

[Barghest Whelp]

You know what? I usually write:

"The ready button, click it"

in chat and then eveybody clicks it. Everybody's happy and no one gets tk'd. Maybe I'm just lucky that way.

[Sandpit]

It amazes me how often I see statements along the lines of "an extra 3-4 minutes in a match? RAWR! RAGE RAGE RAGE!" or "I have to wait 40 seconds?!?!?!? RAWR RAGE RAGE RAGE"

Then you get a 3 page mathematical equation on how over the course of 10,000 matches this equates to xx amount of c-bills and "wasted" time and how it's destroying the game....

Seriously people. If you can't chill out and donate an extra 3-4 minutes to a video game then that's on you. I don't understand it. The whole "I want it now now now" and immediate gratification mentality really just blows my mind sometimes. I am hoping this isn't what PGI is ultimately catering to......

[Relic1701]

Having a slower PC, and connecting from the UK, I regularly drop into the match when the countdown is at 30-40 seconds, so my apologies to those people, I'll do my upmost to save money (not eat, pay bills etc) so I can afford a better computer, so I can connect faster and save your rage....

Please forgive me

[Claive]

Sandpit, on 15 October 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

Seriously people. If you can't chill out and donate an extra 3-4 minutes to a video game then that's on you. I don't understand it. The whole "I want it now now now" and immediate gratification mentality really just blows my mind sometimes. I am hoping this isn't what PGI is ultimately catering to......

Some of us have children... and adding 3-4 minites per match is the difference between playing and not playing. Or between playing one game vs two.

Edited by Claive, 15 October 2013 - 12:33 PM.

[Sean von Steinike]

Kuritaclan, on 14 October 2013 - 10:22 PM, said:

This sums it up. You think we would actually dealing here with many adults, since BT has a older fan-base. But the ready button turn out the behavior of teenagers.

Take it easy is the best advice.

Remember, 3rd person just had to be put it because people were too stupid to grasp torso twist.

[Sandpit]

Claive, on 15 October 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

Some of us have children... and adding 3-4 minites per match is the difference between playing and not playing. Or between playing one game vs two.

Uhm.... so do I, I don't expect instant gratification though. I don't stand at the microwave and rant and rave and rage when my hot pocket isn't ready in 2 minutes instead of 3. I don't complain and rage when a game take 9 minutes to complete instead of 6 or 5 or 4.

[krash27]

And every last one of you complaining is going to be the last one out of the mech lab and the last one to ready up when it is implemented. How about we wait and see how all the mechanics are going to work together before we cry for nerfs. Hell it didn't take to much brain power to realize that sooner or later there will be a point to that ready up button and what that point will be

[Finn McShae]

Patience is a virtue that very few people have in this day and age.

That said, I fail to see what, if anything, the Ready button has added to the game. I feel that it was an unnessary step that only exascerbates this issues with impatient and impolite gamers.

[Sandpit]

Finn McShae, on 15 October 2013 - 05:38 PM, said:

Patience is a virtue that very few people have in this day and age.

That said, I fail to see what, if anything, the Ready button has added to the game. I feel that it was an unnessary step that only exascerbates this issues with impatient and impolite gamers.

As someone else said, it's a button that I think will have much more functionality as we get the new ui and such implemented but that's conjecture

[Corvus Antaka]

I agree. 30 sec timer would be plenty.