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#161 Tsig

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 08:59 PM

View PostHarlem Mavalon, on 14 December 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

For those of you who want ANYTHING removed, go ahead and yell at evolution for adding in the middle finger... :excl:
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You...I like you. Honestly, I don't feel like anything in this game needs to be, nor should be, removed, only adjusted. "Ghost Heat" is fine, just learn to play around it. It's not "Game Breaking", but it certainly helps curb the super Energy Weapon alphas and the AC/40 mechs. If you don't want to be affected by the Heat Scale, then don't cram as many high-heat weapons into your mech as possible. Game balance trumps your urge to build a Death Ray Mech.

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 04:58 PM

A Death Ray Mech eh? I'll give you the stats and they're not looking good

Tonnage: 300 (Bouncy or squishy?)

Firepower: 164 (Surprisingly since there's THAT HUGE ******* GUN IN MY FACE)
Armor: 313 (Thick Ferro Fibrous, shooting melts most of it)

Heat Efficiency: 0.01 (Takes ten minutes to re-activate the mech, takes two hours to lose all heat gained)

Max speed: 30 KPH (Locust with a Marauder dorsal gun)

Long story short, a DRM, is going to be a huge, slow, walking artillery gun with nothing BUT that massive cannon protruding out of whatever hardpoint you put the XL 360 engine sized monstrosity.

#163 MechWarrior071507

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 05:22 PM

TK penalty should be removed because if its unintentional, losing the match is penalty enough, and if it's intentional, thats what grief reports are for.

#164 Sandpit

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 05:25 PM

View PostKhorek, on 16 December 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

TK penalty should be removed because if its unintentional, losing the match is penalty enough, and if it's intentional, thats what grief reports are for.

you heard it here first folks, added to the list

ooops, it was already in the list lol

sorry dude, day late

#165 MechWarrior071507

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 05:28 PM

now you can get on your other account and sockpuppet yourself and how much you agree sandpit/roadbeef.

TK penalties are ideally to discourage purposeful TKing, as you can report people this purpose is null except to harm progression. I can TK at 0 Cbills all day long if I intentionally want to do it, and it doesn't harm me, so there's no reason to have money penalty.

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 06:00 PM

View PostKhorek, on 16 December 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

now you can get on your other account and sockpuppet yourself and how much you agree sandpit/roadbeef.

TK penalties are ideally to discourage purposeful TKing, as you can report people this purpose is null except to harm progression. I can TK at 0 Cbills all day long if I intentionally want to do it, and it doesn't harm me, so there's no reason to have money penalty.

o,0? That's odd, I guess you could jump on our TS server and see me and Road on together which disproves your ignorance but it's ok, I'm used to ignorance on the forums. Uhm you asked to put something on the list, I can't put it on the list, I'm sorry

#167 MechWarrior071507

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 06:07 PM

I asked no such thing.

#168 Tesunie

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 06:46 PM

View PostSandpit, on 16 December 2013 - 06:00 PM, said:

o,0? That's odd, I guess you could jump on our TS server and see me and Road on together which disproves your ignorance but it's ok, I'm used to ignorance on the forums. Uhm you asked to put something on the list, I can't put it on the list, I'm sorry


It's okay. We all know you must just have multiple personalities. I talk to myself all the time as well. It's fun being able to have a conversation with yourself. However, having two mics over team chat might be a bit excessive. The echo must be harsh...

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 07:30 PM

View PostTesunie, on 16 December 2013 - 06:46 PM, said:


It's okay. We all know you must just have multiple personalities. I talk to myself all the time as well. It's fun being able to have a conversation with yourself. However, having two mics over team chat might be a bit excessive. The echo must be harsh...

Well it takes talent. See what I do is have two laptops set up, I play on both at the same time and yell out targets to myself, then jump onthe other headset while telling me to shut up i'm concentrating and I do all this while dealing out 700+ damage in 2 different mechs which are both energy boats. I'm just that good

View PostKhorek, on 16 December 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

TK penalty should be removed because if its unintentional, losing the match is penalty enough, and if it's intentional, thats what grief reports are for.


View PostKhorek, on 16 December 2013 - 06:07 PM, said:

I asked no such thing.


....... :P

#170 Tesunie

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 07:40 PM

View PostSandpit, on 16 December 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

Well it takes talent. See what I do is have two laptops set up, I play on both at the same time and yell out targets to myself, then jump onthe other headset while telling me to shut up i'm concentrating and I do all this while dealing out 700+ damage in 2 different mechs which are both energy boats. I'm just that good


Now THAT takes some talent. That Talent must have been expensive. I bought my Talent at Wal-mart, and can barely eek out 2 kills in a match and my damage goes from 5* (bad day in the office bad) to 500+... Lesson, things at Wal-mart might be cheaper, but you get what you pay. The Life I also bought there seems to work when it wants to... not always when I want it to...

* I had this happen 2 days ago in a Raven. I did a whole 5 damage despite shooting a lot in the match, died early (not helpful) from two "perfect" side torso hits on the same side torso... was not a "good day in the office" kind of match for me. Sad part is, my team won the match and it was my "first match of the day" in that mech.**

** Why is it that the "first match of the day" bonus always seems to somehow get wasted on a very bad match, but all other matches after the "first match of the day" seem to be great matches? Is this like, programed into the game just for me?***

*** I propose that the "first match of the day" reward be removed from the game! It should be best match of the day bonus! Yes... that's it... ****

**** How many *s (Asterisks) can one make in a single post? Who knows...

#171 Tesunie

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 07:58 PM

View PostSandpit, on 16 October 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:

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:P Wait... someone else already said that? :unsure: Seriously? :blink: And they where being serious about it? :blink:

You do know (I hope one would be able to tell) that I was joking about it's removal... :ph34r:

#172 Sandpit

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 07:59 PM

View PostTesunie, on 16 December 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:


:P Wait... someone else already said that? :unsure: Seriously? :blink: And they where being serious about it? :blink:

You do know (I hope one would be able to tell) that I was joking about it's removal... :ph34r:

no I only put serious requests on here. It was searched and found

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 08:51 PM

View PostSandpit, on 16 December 2013 - 06:00 PM, said:

but it's ok, I'm used to ignorance on the forums.


I wish I could say the same.... it almost always surprises me :blink:

View PostTesunie, on 16 December 2013 - 07:40 PM, said:


Now THAT takes some talent.

**** How many *s (Asterisks) can one make in a single post? Who knows...


I bought my talent second hand at Salvation Army or something similar.... it cost me a whole 2cents (why is there no symbol for that on this keyboard!? :P) and all the opinions I will ever have. :unsure:

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#174 Sandpit

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:20 PM

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Needless to say this was something I had been working on for a very long time, Microsoft is very happy about how the MechWarrior brand is being re-invigorated with the new art work and gameplay advances. This extended license deal gives PGI many of the assurances we were looking for to justify continuing to spend large amounts of development funds on the game, we know we now have the runway to make the investment logical.


This is very disheartening....

Let me preface this post by saying, Russ, I commend you on your honesty. The way you addressed the community this evening was something I've been harsh in my opinions on when it comes to PGI and you in particular. You seemed to be very genuine and acted in a truly professional manner. You also seem to understand that the community really seems to be at a breaking point.

The above quote.......

I just..... I don't understand. Were you not going full force on game development prior to this extension? This statement really makes perceptions of pgi just making money grabs seem a little more realistic unfortunately. Why would you be dropping all of these monetary packages if you weren't planning to continue full-blown development....

You said on twitter when you announced the clan packs that CW would be in before clans. You made a point to say that we, as customers, had nothing to worry about when it came to that. Why would you make that statement if you knew if to be false? Why would you give us all of the 90 day deadlines over the past two years?

Why wouldn't you just give us lobbies and let us do our own CW while we waited on you? You want customers to drop large sums of money on your product but you haven't given us one bit of honesty prior to today (which I'm still on the fence about because at this point you have created a very skeptical environment).

I've asked several times over the past few days. Russ, if you were me, and I were you, would YOU give me money? Would you continue to pay a company that has acted in this manner? You have been exceptionally dishonest about a lot of things. I understand it's not "you" specifically to blame for everything but heavy is the head that wears the crown.

If you could not give us the cornerstones of the game that you originally promised to founders, you should have said so. You should have taken the many suggestions of just simply giving us a lobby and way to sync drop without the headaches. We would have taken care of the rest and created our own leagues while waiting. We also wouldn't have raged.

The other part of my concern, is this is the same thing we got for Project Phoenix. PGI became a lot more vocal and communicative and it seemed it was genuine. Then once PP sales were concluded, we got exactly what we complained about again. Silence.

You and others on staff have insulted and berated players. Especially those that are just as, if not more, passionate about this IP than you are. Players that have dedicated decades and thousands of dollars not only to the IP but millions of dollars to you on good faith based on your good word. You've done nothing to earn that faith at this point and done everything to break that faith. You said in your post that you will listen to polite and constructive feedback.

Hire a GOOD PR and marketing guy. You are not a PR guy. You might be a good designer and manager but your public relation skills are poor. You don't seem to have a finger on the pulse of your community and many times even though you dont' realize it, your statements compound the problems and issues the player base has with you, the company, and the game at this point. (Personally I'd give Niko a shot at it, he's the best mod you have and has always been fair and friendly when dealing with even the worst trolls out here)

Give the community lobbies and a way to drop against opponents in a composed drop. This will completely alleviate the pressure I'm sure you and the rest of your team feel when it comes to CW. Your opinion and definition of CW is irrelevant at this point. Your customers have a clear and concise opinion on what CW THEY want. Give it to them. This is going to give them something to do beyond stomp, shoot, buy. Don't worry, we'll still be more than happy to conquer your planetary map when you get it done, but until then we need something more to justify the amount of money you're asking for us to spend.

Rethink your ideologies on micro-transactions. The pretty little things in the store are way too expensive in the eyes of most of your community. Camos and colors especially. Keep the price on the mechs the same if you really think $30+ is a good deal for a single in-game unit. (I don't but you have the hard data to prove this one right or wrong, I don't)

No more perceived money grabs. That doesn't mean continue dropping the hero and champion mechs. That means stop with any more pacakges. Personally I think you should have the fortitude to delay the Clan pack indefinitely and hold true to your promise that we will have CW before clan mechs. If you can get CW out prior to June then keep it on and go for it.

Stop with all the hush hush attitude. It's ridiculous to drop new merchandise and not give an accurate description of what the customer is getting. This isn't "Let's Make A Deal" and I don't want to have to wait to find out what's behind door #2 for my $240 purchase. Before you dropped clan packs you SHOULD have delivered everything from the Phoenix Pack including a detailed description of how loyalty points work, what they do, how the medallions will play into that, and what impact that will have on CW. It's inexcusable that I have to theory craft on what exactly $240 will get me. You know how this stuff will work and if you don't, you should NOT have put it out for public consumption until you did.

This isn't about entitlement or any such nonsense. This about convincing paying customers that your product is good enough to warrant 200+ dollars of their hard earned money. I have the disposable income to purchase the clan pack. I WANT the clan pack (I nearly salivate every time I look at my beloved Timberwolf) but I can't see spending that much money on a company I have no faith in at this point or won't give me anything to do besides stomp, shoot, buy.

If you can do the things mentioned above and keep up the open and honest communication you gave me tonight I'll be dropping in my shiny new clan mechs June 17. If you cannot I'll be dropping in the same mechs I have now on June 17. It shouldn't take a concerted backlash of juggernaut threads (thanks for the term Road) and near riot situations to get this company to explain to its customers what's going on and how things work as far as game mechanics and features. Until I see this stuff actually implemented I'll be sucking up your company's bandwidth as a free player. If it doesn't produce more of a game then I'll continue playing as a free player until something that DOESN'T treat me like I'm a child catches my attention and gives me a more satisfactory gaming experience.

I hope you meant what you said about listening to and responding to open, honest, curteous, and constructive feedback because I took time, effort, and thought for this particular post. The ball is in your court PGI.

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 10:40 AM

View PostDaisu Saikoro, on 14 January 2014 - 10:35 AM, said:


Oh no. Not ANOTHER one of THESE posts!

Stop complaining. Everything is okay.

Do you really have enough time on your hands to dig up a post that was a month old?

Thanks for bumping my thread though ;)

#176 DaisuSaikoro Nagasawa

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 10:50 AM

View PostSandpit, on 14 January 2014 - 10:40 AM, said:

Do you really have enough time on your hands to dig up a post that was a month old?

Thanks for bumping my thread though ;)



Oops, sequence got kind mucked.

Recap.

The volume you post ... when you get to the point where you're self referencing/praise your own post (which you state is months old) in your own sig it's likely time to give that posting a rest. You're turning into a diva.

From that it led into seeing the last post and turning the tables so to speak (a reminder that you are also susceptible to the same thing you jeer others for).

So yeah, there you go. Thanks for helping to make the point easier.

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 10:55 AM

View PostDaisu Saikoro, on 14 January 2014 - 10:50 AM, said:



Oops, sequence got kind mucked.

Recap.

The volume you post ... when you get to the point where you're self referencing/praise your own post (which you state is months old) in your own sig it's likely time to give that posting a rest. You're turning into a diva.

From that it led into seeing the last post and turning the tables so to speak (a reminder that you are also susceptible to the same thing you jeer others for).

So yeah, there you go. Thanks for helping to make the point easier.

So I'm a diva because you couldn't read a date? lol
Point still stands in that post though.

And the thread is in my sig because I wan't people to read the list. You know that big long list that you seemed to have missed that is in the very first page and very first post on this thread?

Always nice to meet a fan though ;)

#178 DaisuSaikoro Nagasawa

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 11:15 AM

View PostSandpit, on 14 January 2014 - 10:55 AM, said:

So I'm a diva because you couldn't read a date? lol
Point still stands in that post though.

And the thread is in my sig because I wan't people to read the list. You know that big long list that you seemed to have missed that is in the very first page and very first post on this thread?

Always nice to meet a fan though ;)


Self referencing / praising in ones own sig.

And obviously, or else why would you do it. Not the point of what was being said.

You're a grown man. The lols, ninja face, 11 posts a day, self aggrandizing, and doing what you critique others for... mind you the big list is so qualitative.

Aren't you tired?

And really, the game is fine. Let it go.

Edited by Daisu Saikoro, 14 January 2014 - 11:15 AM.


#179 Sandpit

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 11:37 AM

View PostDaisu Saikoro, on 14 January 2014 - 11:15 AM, said:


Self referencing / praising in ones own sig.

And obviously, or else why would you do it. Not the point of what was being said.

You're a grown man. The lols, ninja face, 11 posts a day, self aggrandizing, and doing what you critique others for... mind you the big list is so qualitative.

Aren't you tired?

And really, the game is fine. Let it go.

rofl you might want to read through a person's post history before getting on a soap box. Again, always nice to meet a fan though :)

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 12:03 PM

Things just got weird here.
I like it.





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