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#181 C E Dwyer

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 12:29 PM

While I agree with OP's comments and what he says 99% of the time, in this thread, could we please remove, unstable servers, so a games starting 12v12 happen all the time and a game finnishing without disconnects is the standard and not a nice surprise.

Also not crashing to desk top after a match would be nice as well

ohh and can we please remove TK ing from the game and adults squabbling like little children in the forums,

hmm ok maybe not the squabbling as it would remove about 75% or the forum traffic and I'd have to read a real book for entertainment, or out of desperation Garfield

Edited by Cathy, 14 January 2014 - 12:34 PM.


#182 Craig Steele

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 07:45 PM

With meaningful thought provoking threads such as this, I am somewhat surprised there has not been a "remove Sandpit" thread previously.

jk, jk :)

#183 Sandpit

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 07:56 PM

There has, I just can't bring myself to withhold that kind of greatness from the MWO community in general :ph34r:

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:08 PM

I DEMAND ALL TANKS BE REMOVED FROM THE GAME.

#185 Tesunie

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:20 PM

View PostStompingOnTanks, on 14 January 2014 - 09:08 PM, said:

I DEMAND ALL TANKS BE REMOVED FROM THE GAME.


But I thought you liked stomping on them... :ph34r:

#186 Johnny Reb

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:32 PM

Care nothing, I have played alot since I got in closed beta but, I guess I am burned out. Thats cause I really dont care if an update happens. TFC(2) had me for 4 yrs you got me for 1.5. I'll still check in bi-weekly but other than that see no need to buy 3 mechs to level them up and that might be taken away, but you get the gxp!!

edit: take my gains away just make this game sort of what you said it would!

Edited by Johnny Reb, 14 January 2014 - 09:34 PM.


#187 MadcatX

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:40 PM

First time I read this list. I'm going through it and most things, yea, I've heard complained about on the forums.

And then I saw Small Laser.

I'm still laughing. In a list that contains some pretty ridiculous stuff, the notion that somebody, somewhere, thought that removing the small laser from this game would be beneficial.... phew.... unless I missed a small laser meta when I was on break for a bit.... hahahaha.

#188 Tesunie

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 09:47 PM

View PostMadcatX, on 14 January 2014 - 09:40 PM, said:

First time I read this list. I'm going through it and most things, yea, I've heard complained about on the forums.

And then I saw Small Laser.

I'm still laughing. In a list that contains some pretty ridiculous stuff, the notion that somebody, somewhere, thought that removing the small laser from this game would be beneficial.... phew.... unless I missed a small laser meta when I was on break for a bit.... hahahaha.


Not, they don't want it removed for it being so strong, but because it is "useless" and "no one takes it so just remove it from the game". It's been suggested to "help force people to make the right decision and not to use them". Sames been said for MGs and Flamers at some point.

#189 Sandpit

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 11:02 PM

Point being you can see what kinda game we'd have if PGI just said "Oh, ok there's a new idea from a player, lets make them happy by doing it"

#190 Roadbeer

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 11:04 PM

Seriously MODs, this needs to be Pinned for Justice in K Town.

#191 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 06:31 AM

I nominate Roadbeer and Sandpit to be mods. Its what they want anyways. Why not let them.

#192 Roadbeer

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 07:27 AM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 15 January 2014 - 06:31 AM, said:

I nominate Roadbeer and Sandpit to be mods. Its what they want anyways. Why not let them.

Your completely wrong,
If I was a MOD, I wouldn't be able to openly mock your Posted Image like posting habits.

#193 MadcatX

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 08:46 AM

View PostTesunie, on 14 January 2014 - 09:47 PM, said:


Not, they don't want it removed for it being so strong, but because it is "useless" and "no one takes it so just remove it from the game". It's been suggested to "help force people to make the right decision and not to use them". Sames been said for MGs and Flamers at some point.


Ohhhh... I sorta was hoping it was a result of some sort of ridiculous small laser meta.

As this thread points out, there are MANY things that have been asked to be removed. In most instances I disagree, but sometimes a poster would articulate their point of view well enough that I could understand and respect their line of thinking even if I did not agree with it.

"help force people to make the right decision and not to use them" is not a point of view I will ever respect.

#194 Sandpit

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 08:48 AM

Yea I'd have to be much more P.C. and nicer. Not that I couldn't do it, just that I doubt they'd have that much faith in me and wouldn't be as much fun

View PostMadcatX, on 15 January 2014 - 08:46 AM, said:


Ohhhh... I sorta was hoping it was a result of some sort of ridiculous small laser meta.

As this thread points out, there are MANY things that have been asked to be removed. In most instances I disagree, but sometimes a poster would articulate their point of view well enough that I could understand and respect their line of thinking even if I did not agree with it.

"help force people to make the right decision and not to use them" is not a point of view I will ever respect.

Yes, I don't even disagree with everything on that list but it's not about the validity of the claim or argument, I just wanted to illustrate and maybe educate a little on why "Remove this" isn't a good idea most times.

#195 Mudhutwarrior

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 08:57 AM

View PostRoadbeer, on 15 January 2014 - 07:27 AM, said:

Your completely wrong,
If I was a MOD, I wouldn't be able to openly mock your Posted Image like posting habits.


Kinda like suicide by cop I figure. I would be the first one banned for life and probably the next life. :ph34r:

#196 Roadbeer

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:01 AM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 15 January 2014 - 08:57 AM, said:

I would be the first one banned for life and probably the next life. :ph34r:


Hardly, don't flatter yourself.

#197 Rhaythe

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:30 AM

I'm going to go ahead and call it now - someone in the very near future will demand the game remove cockpit glass.

#198 Sandpit

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:34 AM

View PostMudhutwarrior, on 15 January 2014 - 08:57 AM, said:


Kinda like suicide by cop I figure. I would be the first one banned for life and probably the next life. :)

Pfffft not even close. You're more entertaining than you are disruptive. You actually have some good ideas sometimes when you aren't on your voip/premade soapbox

View PostRhaythe, on 15 January 2014 - 09:30 AM, said:

I'm going to go ahead and call it now - someone in the very near future will demand the game remove cockpit glass.

Oh I have no doubts lol

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:42 AM

View PostRhaythe, on 15 January 2014 - 09:30 AM, said:

I'm going to go ahead and call it now - someone in the very near future will demand the game remove cockpit glass.
It's going to be something akin to 'Now they can see the blinking red lights when I power down, how will I ever preserve my KDR nao.' That's the prediction I'm leading with.

Edited by Mercer Skye, 15 January 2014 - 09:43 AM.


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 11:38 AM

View PostSandpit, on 16 October 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:

So I've gotten into a few "discussions" today in the various "Remove this" threads popping up on the forums. Just as an example I have started a list to help prove a point

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So I followed the link in your sig to this post Sand. This is a humbling list and a hell of a perspective.
I didn't realize how bad it was getting.

I think alot of people need to take a step back, not from the game, but from the forums.
I think the mob mentality coupled with all the doom and gloom on the forums is to much for a lot of people.
I know if I spend to much time on the forums I start jumping on board the "nerf" this band wagon etc etc.
I find myself quite often swaying with the mob regardless of if their points are valid or rage/ignorance fueled.
Some of us, and I am one of them, need to strictly regulate the time on these forums to maintain a truely objective outlook.

When I start falling into that old trap I have to make the conscious effort not to come to the forums because they have sucked out half my brains several times and I turn into a fracking {Dezgra} here and in game (ya atleat I can admit my mistakes/faults).
Rational discusions and facts give way to rage, hyperbole and anecdotal evidence all to often on the forums and people need to grow up and start acting like the adults we all are. It has been a hard lesson for myself to learn and I am still learning.

What has worked best for me when I take issue with anything in game is.......... jump on TS (yes I have it, can use it and even have my own server) and jump in a channel with good players and get their thoughts on my issues. I normaly jump on the NGNG server and chat it up with ACES guys to get their take on the "issues" I am having. AND I stay away from the forums at all costs when I "feel" I have an issue with something in game. The forums seem to exacerbate any perceived issue at that time.

My hats off to the voices of reason on these forums. You have reached some of us. Hard work like that from this community will ensure the game not only survives, but it thrives.

Some people might be truely amazed at what they can learn from talking with other knowledgeable, rational folks.





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