338 replies to this topic

[Captain Midnight]

Just dropped in a game with garth and told him to fix spiders, he said there was nothing wrong with them and they weren't going to "fix" anything because nothing is broken. (and he wasn't kidding, the conversation continued throughout the match and he stuck to his guns)

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screenshot of part of the chat

[Bagheera]

Guess it's time to buy some spiders.

[Odins Fist]

Spiders have an issue with not taking damage.

Edited by Odins Fist, 17 October 2013 - 01:54 PM.

[Gaan Cathal]

There isn't a problem with Spider hitboxes(at least not one not present on other mechs, the torso-hip joint hole appears universal). There is a universal problem with hitreg which is compounded by the Spider's combination of speed and complex geometry.

Edited by Gaan Cathal, 17 October 2013 - 02:10 PM.

[Captain Midnight]

There is no universal hitreg problem, there are hitreg problems on SPECIFIC mechs, namely the spider. I can hit jenners, ravens, and locusts no problem. The exact same shots miss against spiders.

[SirLANsalot]

Gaan Cathal, on 17 October 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

There isn't a problem with Spider hitboxes(at least not one not present on other mechs, the torso-hip joint hole appears universal). There is a universal problem with hitreg which is compounded by the Spider's combination of speed and complex geometry.

THIS!

its not the box, its your poor internet and the still somewhat broken host state rewind. If you have low ping it hates you, if you have high ping it hates you, if you have ping in the 80-120 it likes you.....

[wintersborn]

I'm sorry but Garth? needs to pull his head out of his [redacted]. This is a obvious and documented bug or problem with hit reg etc. on the SPIDER!

This is why people hate this company.

No money from me until I see some heads sans [redacted].

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 17 October 2013 - 03:10 PM.

[Captain Midnight]

I'm just saying you can't deny the spider has specific issues though, because no one has a hard time hitting anything but a spider. Look at the locust, just released, it's even faster than a spider! and no one complains because they die quickly and easily to incoming fire, the exact same fire that simply doesn't register against a spider.

I have seen spider's land in the middle of entire teams and accelerate out of their landing whilst taking 5% total damage, a jenner or raven just literally can not do that without dying instantly. You can't tell me that is my internet, or that that is an issue all mechs face. That is a SPECIFIC spider issue.

[Mcgral18]

Captain Midnight, on 17 October 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

There is no universal hitreg problem, there are hitreg problems on SPECIFIC mechs, namely the spider. I can hit jenners, ravens, and locusts no problem. The exact same shots miss against spiders.

False, there are videos out there of it clearly happening to Cataphracts and other heavier mechs, on top of my own personal experience with it happening on all mechs a small percentage of the time. Since the spider is the thinnest of all mechs, you just see it more often.

[Majukey]

I put 2 lots of triple SRM6 & some LL love into a powered down spider from near enough point blank earlier. The damn arachnid just scampered off with minimal damage once he woke back up.

Will have to start FRAPSing all spider battles in the future, need me some proof!

[Wispsy]

Captain Midnight, on 17 October 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

There is no universal hitreg problem, there are hitreg problems on SPECIFIC mechs, namely the spider. I can hit jenners, ravens, and locusts no problem. The exact same shots miss against spiders.

I have hitreg issues occasionally on everything...more shots fail on victors then on spiders for me.

[Roadbeer]

Well, I see two people in that chat acting like petulant children rather than asking for a clarification to what he meant.

Anything you have to say after that image is fairly irrelevant.

[MonkeyCheese]

So people still cant understand the difference between HITBOXES and HIT REGISTRATION....

If you turned the entire body of the spider into one hitbox with all the armor I bet there would still be problems doing damage...

[kuangmk11]

MonkeyCheese, on 17 October 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

So people still cant understand the difference between HITBOXES and HIT REGISTRATION....

If you turned the entire body of the spider into one hitbox with all the armor I bet there would still be problems doing damage...

Maybe. lets try it.

[DeaconW]

Wispsy, on 17 October 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

I have hitreg issues occasionally on everything...more shots fail on victors then on spiders for me.

Says the spider pilot...

[MonkeyCheese]

kuangmk11, on 17 October 2013 - 02:56 PM, said:

Maybe. lets try it.

Well test servers exist for a reason

[Krivvan]

Like others have said, there is no hitbox problem. There is a hitreg problem. It may perhaps be more exacerbated in the Spider, but it's something that only some players experience with regularity (others don't have as much of an issue and/or experience it against all mechs).

Edited by Krivvan, 17 October 2013 - 03:09 PM.

[Steel Will]

Here's the nothing to fix if anyone's interested:

[Mehlan]

Steel Will, on 17 October 2013 - 03:19 PM, said:

Here's the nothing to fix if anyone's interested:

DO you think that 'hole' is what's causing all the complaints? and have you tested to see if that hole was 'patched' in one of the last to patches?

Hole? hmm...

Edited by Mehlan, 17 October 2013 - 03:37 PM.

[Wispsy]

DeaconW, on 17 October 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

Says the spider pilot...

I can actually pilot a number of things, you should maybe see my Heavy Elo or my Assault stats...

but ofc I am going to play Spider when they give it speed buff.