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[Birddog FAC]

I would love to see the Mauler Assult mech in MWO it would give us long range lovers a good mech to work with plus its got a lot of options to work with. it can run LRMS, Dakka, and Decent Energy loadouts. I belive it would be a good support mech for the assult class and give a new depth to the end game that is coming. it could be equiped for long range or brawling. and it could be slightly nerfed with low max speed

[Nothing Whatsoever]

Would be nice to see.

[Ens]

yeah.... every ***** would try double ac/20 or X-Gauss 8[

hardpoint restrictions first....then mauler....thx

[Nothing Whatsoever]

Ens, on 26 October 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

yeah.... every ***** would try double ac/20 or X-Gauss 8[

hardpoint restrictions first....then mauler....thx

yeah would need sized hardpoints to prevent that.

[Escef]

The problem with the Mauler is that you only have 2 versions currently available, the base model and the old Daboku. The only other way would be to use the C3 versions, but C3 does not exist in MWO. I'd rather not have two versions of the COmmand Console in this game (that is, equipment that does nothing).

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

I would love to see it, but it would break this game in half.


Double Ac20, double PPC Assault mech please!

[Bishop Steiner]

really guys! It's not my fault!

I was designed with SMALL ballistics......

[SgtMagor]

FTFY

[Otto Cannon]

Wrong pic Sgt, that one's clearly a Mauled.

[Samziel]

Would LOVE IT! One of the toughest mechs after Atlas! Also having a great punch with ballistics.

[Krivvan]

Praetor Shepard, on 26 October 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

yeah would need sized hardpoints to prevent that.

The problem with sized hardpoints is that the only choice you really give players is whether to downsize a type of weapon or not. You may as well just say "stock mechs only" at that point.

[John MatriX82]

Krivvan, on 27 October 2013 - 12:57 AM, said:

The problem with sized hardpoints is that the only choice you really give players is whether to downsize a type of weapon or not. You may as well just say "stock mechs only" at that point.

Nope I'd take the stock variant and allow 1 upgrade in terms of crit weapon space. Like stalkers, 2 LLs + 4MLs = 8 energy crits, allow to upgrade 2 weapons (large lasers into PPCs or two MLs to LLs), let's say total 10 energy crits @ max.
Do you want to keep dual large lasers and have dual PPCs? Fine, given you've reached 10 energy crit slots you lose the two remaining energy hardpoints. You can't use them. Displacement of hardpoints is free, so if you decide to go 1PPC 1LL in each arm you can but then the torso hardpoints become locked.

A similar system could be done for Ballistic hardpoints; take the Cat K2, let's say maximum allowed ballistic crits is 10: you then can upgrade those mguns to dual AC2s or dual AC5. But you could also decide to use an AC 20: you'll reach 10 crits used, so the opposite ballistic hardpoint is blocked. It would be so easy.

Missiles should not be allowed to fire multiple salvoes and get limited by available tubes in a precise location, so a cent A has 10 tubes, then it won't be able to use more than an LRM10 or 10 Srms (SRM4+SRM4+SRM2 or SRM6+2xSRM2).
Whenever you have multiple harpoints in the same location, SRMs and LRMs can share the same tubes but both weapons are limited to those available tubes, so always taking the Cent A you could have at maximum a LRM10+SRM6+SRM4.

It would be easy, the mechlab wouldn't allow you to mount weapons beyond those allowed, you could get rid of ghost heat, you could give each chassis variant a bonus in crits and differentiate each one from another, you'd avoid boating, you'd avoid cheesy dual AC20s/dual GRs, no more than 50 LRMs at once (thus letting also smaller launchers to be useful since you know the max salvo is 50 for every mech), no more 36 SRMs (Cat A1 could have max 28 srms with my sys or 24 + 30 LRMs) and so on.


Getting back IT, I'd love to see a Mauler in this game in Iglesias' hands, but given the displacement I think it could risk to be an easy target, and given that PGI's scaling/dimensions and hitbox diplacement is getting worse mech after mech.. It would be a shame to see like the Orion did, or the Awesome..

Edited by John MatriX82, 27 October 2013 - 01:50 AM.

[Sephlock]

We need these and Thugs to be fully prepared for the clan invasion...

[Corvus Antaka]

Ens, on 26 October 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

yeah.... every ***** would try double ac/20 or X-Gauss 8[

hardpoint restrictions first....then mauler....thx

yeah but with those low slung arms and no jumpjets itll still suck.

[FupDup]

Krivvan, on 27 October 2013 - 12:57 AM, said:

The problem with sized hardpoints is that the only choice you really give players is whether to downsize a type of weapon or not. You may as well just say "stock mechs only" at that point.

Most hardpoint system suggestions allow for at least some minor weapon upsizing, so that's not much of a worry.

Edited by FupDup, 27 October 2013 - 07:30 AM.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Krivvan, on 27 October 2013 - 12:57 AM, said:

The problem with sized hardpoints is that the only choice you really give players is whether to downsize a type of weapon or not. You may as well just say "stock mechs only" at that point.

Not necessarily. You could have small, medium, and large hard points where 2 small=1medium, 3 small=1 large and 1 small +1 medium=1 large. You could also have downgrades like 1 Large=2 Small and 1 medium=1 small.

With this in place the battlemaster could trade 3 medium lasers for 1 PPC or the Dragon 5N could trade its three small ballistics hard points for 1 large to mount a gauss rifle

[Roburn Bliss]

Mauler:

300 std engine - 54kph - 59kph
2x AC20 - 8 tons ammo
2x medium laser
4x ssrm - 2 tons ammo
endo
10 double sinks

drop leg armor a bit

90 tons.

want?

[AlexEss]

Guys.... Do i need to point out the MASSIVE missilepods on the shoulders... This thing make the HBK look like a well designed and balanced mech.

[Zyllos]

Krivvan, on 27 October 2013 - 12:57 AM, said:

The problem with sized hardpoints is that the only choice you really give players is whether to downsize a type of weapon or not. You may as well just say "stock mechs only" at that point.

Not even close to being correct.

For starters, many of the mechs in this game has extra hardpoint slots. Then having a hardpoint system that really limits the largest of ACs from slots, like no AC/10s or Gauss Rifles in Machine Gun or AC/2 slots. And lastly, there are plenty of side grade weapons, like pulse lasers, LBX, and ER, once many of these weapons get their fix. And not to forget, you can down grade some weapons for a larger engine.

The whole point of this is to make mechs stay in their respective builds, but not to totally limit customization. None of this "AC/20 Raven" or "AWS-8Q useless because everyone else can just equip PPCs".

Almost every weapon would fit under the "Medium" sized hardpoint category, like AC/5s and AC/10s, Large Lasers, LRM/10s and SRM/6s. Only a rare few would have "Small", like Machine Guns, Small Pulse Lasers, and SRM/4s. And the "Large" is mainly reserved for AC/20s, PPCs, and LRM/15s. So there is a ton of leeway but those few mechs with specific builds in mind, like the HBK-4G, has their own role of being one of a few Medium mechs to have an AC/20 while the CDA-3C being a fast PPC platform, or some of the future mechs like the Hollander, with a Gauss Rifle, still keep their uniqueness.

Edited by Zyllos, 27 October 2013 - 07:22 PM.

[Holleywood]

• In 3050 The Luthien Armor Works fields the Mauler BattleMech.

Just saying...