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#41 PropagandaWar

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 10:09 AM

View PostWispsy, on 08 November 2013 - 08:12 AM, said:


Barely faster then my Victor, and speed is ok to run away from me in a highlander if you are already behind tall buildings but if you ever decide to actually fight...well it is not pretty. I do not miss mediums just because they run at 90kph ever...Like literally, I do not miss shots on mediums. The sheer overpowering weight of armour and firepower leaves you helpless. The same thing can be said for my Jenner. If I was fighting me in a Jenner in a Highlander my Highlander would never ever lose that fight. Not once. If the speed and size advantage is not enough for a Jenner, which barely has less firepower then a medium...well it is only going to go worse for something with similar armour similar firepower and half the speed...

Of course, I can reroll an account and get an easy 8kdr in any chassis without double basics. At which point mediums might look viable.

The Highlander to me is the most effective and hardest to kill assault. I also play a brawler style and don't run from assualts. Around yes, from no, While I respect your jenner skills I'm not afraid of them lol. Never was sorry, my buddy Gav scares me more in his jenner than any body else.Do I have an 8 kdr? Nope more like a 1.35 over all with over 6000 registered games and im fine with it, I lead my team and those results mean more to me, as well as not sucking when I pug. while my SP's damage over time is only a measly 300 avg I'm fine with that. But then again I have watched high kdr players (we have our very own) and well those "kills" they get tend to be on jacked up mechs caused by the team, so that stat is the least impressive to me especially with damage constantly in the 200 range (Last I checked killing 5 mechs takes waaay more than 200-300 points damage). I'll fight you in my hunch when the mode comes out. I have well over a thousand matches in that mech and its the one I go to on a bad day. 90 is a sweet spot to me in terms of manuverability. I know you your a badarse in all mechs but I run with plenty of pilots that are just as awesome as you if not more, but hey we work as team and they aknowledge it.

My "look at me I'm awesome statement" so I can feel great like everyone else: I rarely lose the one on one combat and yet my aim is {Scrap}. hmmmmm e-peen stroked I win. HA! Now where's my leperchaun riding unicorn...

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 10:28 AM

View PostPropagandaWar, on 08 November 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:

The Highlander to me is the most effective and hardest to kill assault. I also play a brawler style and don't run from assualts. Around yes, from no, While I respect your jenner skills I'm not afraid of them lol. Never was sorry, my buddy Gav scares me more in his jenner than any body else.Do I have an 8 kdr? Nope more like a 1.35 over all with over 6000 registered games and im fine with it, I lead my team and those results mean more to me, as well as not sucking when I pug. while my SP's damage over time is only a measly 300 avg I'm fine with that. But then again I have watched high kdr players (we have our very own) and well those "kills" they get tend to be on jacked up mechs caused by the team, so that stat is the least impressive to me especially with damage constantly in the 200 range (Last I checked killing 5 mechs takes waaay more than 200-300 points damage). I'll fight you in my hunch when the mode comes out. I have well over a thousand matches in that mech and its the one I go to on a bad day. 90 is a sweet spot to me in terms of manuverability. I know you your a badarse in all mechs but I run with plenty of pilots that are just as awesome as you if not more, but hey we work as team and they aknowledge it.

My "look at me I'm awesome statement" so I can feel great like everyone else: I rarely lose the one on one combat and yet my aim is {Scrap}. hmmmmm e-peen stroked I win. HA! Now where's my leperchaun riding unicorn...



My overall KDR is 5 with over 9000 games, mostly in light mechs, none of that in an ssrm raven. 300-400 damage is enough to kill 5 mechs, I guess aiming is not as important to you. If you are running round an assault in a medium at 90kph and not dying, then you are playing against bad players, end of. Also you do not run with pilots more awesome then me. ;) If you did I would likely see them in games and in the House of Lords. I was not exaggerating, that was not hyperbole. I do not see how people with any kind of respectable mouse control can miss medium mechs more then once in 100 shots. If you want to group up and go duel any time I am happy to do so. I would be more then happy to show you the error in your beliefs.

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 10:33 AM

View PostWispsy, on 08 November 2013 - 10:28 AM, said:



My overall KDR is 5 with over 9000 games, mostly in light mechs, none of that in an ssrm raven. 300-400 damage is enough to kill 5 mechs, I guess aiming is not as important to you. If you are running round an assault in a medium at 90kph and not dying, then you are playing against bad players, end of. Also you do not run with pilots more awesome then me. ;) If you did I would likely see them in games and in the House of Lords. I was not exaggerating, that was not hyperbole. I do not see how people with any kind of respectable mouse control can miss medium mechs more then once in 100 shots. If you want to group up and go duel any time I am happy to do so. I would be more then happy to show you the error in your beliefs.

Out of Curiosity... how old are you? See I'm 47, so I am on the declining side of Awesome nearing plain old outstanding. :)

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 10:37 AM

View PostJoseph Mallan, on 08 November 2013 - 10:33 AM, said:

Out of Curiosity... how old are you? See I'm 47, so I am on the declining side of Awesome nearing plain old outstanding. ;)

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 10:42 AM

View PostWispsy, on 08 November 2013 - 10:28 AM, said:



My overall KDR is 5 with over 9000 games, mostly in light mechs, none of that in an ssrm raven. 300-400 damage is enough to kill 5 mechs, I guess aiming is not as important to you. If you are running round an assault in a medium at 90kph and not dying, then you are playing against bad players, end of. Also you do not run with pilots more awesome then me. ;) If you did I would likely see them in games and in the House of Lords. I was not exaggerating, that was not hyperbole. I do not see how people with any kind of respectable mouse control can miss medium mechs more then once in 100 shots. If you want to group up and go duel any time I am happy to do so. I would be more then happy to show you the error in your beliefs.

Fine. You don't want my zelot attitude I understand. The 1200 games are in my hunchy. No I don't have 9000 registered more like 6k (9000 since playing possible). 300-400 is enough I said 200-300 so tHpppt! Your a back shooter thats all you are, yeah A back shooter! The only way to kill assaults in that matter. Or a head shooter Yeah thats it a headshooter . My hunchy has still beeen be viable with all the serm bugs and nerfs and everything so, so GRRRR Yeah Grrr! I do see gav in games and upset in games (8.29 kdr over 6000 registered games So he beat you lmao) Don't worry I called him a cheater and he's in my Company so HA to you sir. House of Lords? What kind of cheese ego name is that? No really. Is that the High ELO Aimbot corp? See my belief is that those with high KDR's are cheaters. Even if they aren't cheaters well those are just lies.

If you can't tell I'm just having fun with you thats ok. But I am and Ill kill your silly little highlander. Just make sure you drop with no armor. :)

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 10:58 AM

It is harder to get kills when you play with multiple other people capable of headshotting and you have a name for yourself that makes people focus you. It is also easier to die when facing people who do not manage to kill a hunchback 1v1 in an Atlas. Saying that, who is this gav and why do we not see him in our games if he is so capable of soloing entire teams? ;)

House of Lords is a teamspeak server that is set up for the best players in the game and their units to play on. I did not make it. I do of course use it. I prefer to play with people who know what they are doing.

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 11:12 AM

I feel like part of the problem with mediums has to do with the weapon choices we have. With an energy slot we can either go with the tonnage efficient Medium laser for a short 270 optimal range, or we use something that is 5 times heavier and go with the large laser. The transition is way too high and that makes it difficult for smaller mechs to fit into their build. Instead of creating a well rounded mech, you're forced to sacrifice one playstyle for another. You generally are either an ultra short range fighter useless throughout much of the round, or you're a long range fighter who probably has heat issues and an XL engine.

I would like more weapons that bridge the gap between that 1-5 ton and more importantly bridge the gap between short and long range. Something with a 300-350 optimal range.

Ballistics and missiles need the same medium range, medium tonnage choices as well.

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:26 PM

View PostWispsy, on 08 November 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

It is harder to get kills when you play with multiple other people capable of headshotting and you have a name for yourself that makes people focus you. It is also easier to die when facing people who do not manage to kill a hunchback 1v1 in an Atlas. Saying that, who is this gav and why do we not see him in our games if he is so capable of soloing entire teams? ;)

House of Lords is a teamspeak server that is set up for the best players in the game and their units to play on. I did not make it. I do of course use it. I prefer to play with people who know what they are doing.

Wait what? I never see you but then again your ELO's to damn high. ;P Gav only gets to play on during morning hours usually. Hell I didn't even know he was that good then he started playing some games during the evening hours and was poppin 900 damage. Lately he's been playing night time. He's our jenny pilot. Reminds me a lot of you acutally. You know who I gun for: Evac and Imotep. The enemy team could be down 11 nothing, but for some damn reason I'll just blow up outta nowhere and its one of those two punks lmao.

It's funny that you say that about the Atlas. But to be honest I probably have way more games than most Atlas pilots in my hunch that fits like a glove to me. I swear them and the stalkers are the easiest Assaults to kill. I really don't know why people who aren't playing a support role just don't Pilot the Highlanders and Victors. Even a Battlemasters a bigger PITA to deal with than an Atlas.

Really didnt know about the HoL TS. We Crows have our TS but I prefer people that like to Screw around and cause michief. :) :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Edited by PropagandaWar, 08 November 2013 - 12:27 PM.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 06:22 PM

@Wispsy I can build a Centurion that A: has almost as much frontal armor as a normal Victor, B: goes much faster than a Victor (so arm-tanks much better), and C: has a higher alpha than most Victor builds.....and so D: will always beat a Victor because of A/B/C in a 1v1 contest. The only factor of relevance is if you have any buddies helping you when you scream for help because you know you're going to lose. In fact because this is a team game is the only reason why assaults have higher kdrs, because mediums are better 1v1 mechs.

But I love people who say 'I have an x kdr', mainly due to solely playing in 4 man premades or being in an assault mech (or Jenner because that's also easymode)

edit: oh and I use a Gauss on my YLW and it's fine. Combed with ERLL it's a better build than stock AC20/2MLs as it has range to matrix dodge most incoming fire because I can use my 98kph speed to stay at max range.

Edited by Murzao, 08 November 2013 - 06:24 PM.


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Posted 22 November 2013 - 03:35 AM

I run a gauss blackjack and i can use the gauss effectively from all ranges from pop tarting to brawling the blackjack having it on high mounted arms is a huge benifit.Something else to note is that i prefer BJ over shadow hawk because i like to jump over enemies and fire from above.





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