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[EgoSlayer]

New Year's Bump. The Cat needs to come back!

[Xeren KelDar]

Save the Catapult!!

[MATRAKA14]

Maybe for the next year we can get 2016 replies or even 3050 XD

[XphR]

Im laughing, but with a tear in my eye.

[MATRAKA14]

[MeiSooHaityu]

Got to keep hope alive!

[CliffhangerJaeger]

Never Surrender

[Mad Strike]

You can do it !!

[MeiSooHaityu]

Update:
PPC barrels: no news
A1 Missile VCRs: no news
Assault sized torso: no news

That is all.

[Tolkien]

What they did to the CPLT A1 is atrocious artistically and in terms of game-play.

It shows a lack of self awareness on the part of the project lead which is shocking (then again they thought Transverse would bring in a million dollars, so they are obviously not very in touch with reality).

Everyone knows a CPLT A1 will be full of missiles of some variety - the bolt on external missile VCRs ruin the visual aesthetic of the mech and don't add anything to the counter play experience, as if you are close enough to count the number of tubes on each VCR, you are also close enough to push R and just get a readout of exactly what they are carrying.

The CPLT A1 used to be a demon in the streak and splat cat days but making the profile far larger than that of a stalker while also ruining the appearance of one of the nicest looking chassis in the game is why people say the game was 'better in beta'.

Let's all bow our heads and remember a time before the film grain, before the excessive motion blur, before the fog on everything, before the cockpit glass, before the atlas eye glow was turned off, before the VCRs were bolted on to the catapult and back when mechs feet actually used to track the ground. In short before a project lead decided to fiddle with the margins rather than add substance.

[Vassago Rain]

By the ever awesome Alex Wolfe.

[MeiSooHaityu]

The missile rack update to the A1 always felt like a knee-jerk reaction to the cries over the streak and splat Cat criers. I think they made the launchers grow to an obscene size to punish players for running it.

Fast forward about a year and we now have Doom Crows. They think that is ok. They think it is ok in a Mad Dog too.

Power creep has negated any sort of hitbox punishment PGI gave the Cat A1. Let's have new dynamic missile tubes all implemented INSIDE the base A1 missile rack.

P.S. Fix the appearance of the PPC barrels too....and add EEPPC quirks too. A K2 is a fire support sniper heavy for Christ sakes.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 08 January 2015 - 03:47 AM.

[Dauphni]

That reminds me. It's not only the A1 that got nerfed after cries of OPness. Remember the old Jagermech DD, when it could still semi-viably run hex-AC/2s, but then they got super ghost heat penalties because people complained of cockpit rattle? Same thing. And you still can't really do 6 AC/2s on the DD, but loading your Dire Wolf to the brim with UACs and get even more rattle? That's just fine. Obviously allowing the one but not the other in both cases is disgraceful, especially when the allowed version is more powerful than the forbidden one ever was.

[MATRAKA14]

MeiSooHaityu, on 08 January 2015 - 03:46 AM, said:

Fast forward about a year and we now have Doom Crows. They think that is ok. They think it is ok in a Mad Dog too.

We are not going to see anything like this i think.




An official response on this one year +1000 replies thread will be nice.

[MeiSooHaityu]

MATRAKA14, on 08 January 2015 - 05:41 AM, said:

We are not going to see anything like this i think.




An official response on this one year +1000 replies thread will be nice.

Considering how PGI has treated the poor Cat A1, that Mad Dog almost seem reasonable (well for PGI logic anyway).

[Dauphni]

The ears on that 'shopped Mad Dog are only twice the size of those on the Timberwolf!

[MATRAKA14]

Uite Dauphni, on 08 January 2015 - 08:02 AM, said:

The ears on that 'shopped Mad Dog are only twice the size of those on the Timberwolf!

Here you can compare

[DjPush]

Are the exposed missle pods easy to crit? I mean, if i shot one of those could i crit the weapon without having to destroy the armor of the arms first? I know if you shoot the ears of a Timber, their torsos just come off like paper.

[Tolkien]

DjPush, on 08 January 2015 - 08:26 AM, said:

Are the exposed missle pods easy to crit? I mean, if i shot one of those could i crit the weapon without having to destroy the armor of the arms first? I know if you shoot the ears of a Timber, their torsos just come off like paper.

They expand the arm hitbox, so the box (which is normally the catapult's arm hitbox) becomes much bigger/wider. It doesn't direct damage to the exact launcher you shoot at, it just applies the damage to the arm hitbox.

Edit: There is a quirk with the catapults where their missile doors reduce damage to the arm by 10% while closed, but they add a 0.5s firing delay to every shot for them to open up. You can toggle them open/closed with the slash key, but I have *no clue* if this old quirk dating back to closed beta is still even valid.

Edited by Tolkien, 08 January 2015 - 08:54 AM.

[Dauphni]

I thought the addons themselves didn't affect the hitboxes, though the arms being LRM20 sized makes their hitbox correspond to the LRM20 size, instead of the normal LRM15 size.