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[focuspark]

Shakespeare, on 06 November 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

Preach it. Missile balance isn't going to get anywhere as long as it's possible to spam missiles right through the tube cap. LRM 20 is the least used launcher. That's just stupid.

I was quoted by Shakespeare

Black Templar, on 06 November 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

please keep it friendly and constructive. they are watching you now...

Good, as a paying (and annoyed customer) I hope they pay very close attention.

[GalaxyBluestar]

not liking the gun fixtures ontop of canon fixtures?

too bad because you asked for it!

complaining about a few little ridges for missles ports and yet a whacking graet rambo uac doesn't destroy alex's art!?!?!?

look forward to seeing these on the field at some point.

and can we make PPc's match the awesome barrels and smack them higgldy piggldy on anything and anywhere we like? locust would look "so cool". KBYE

Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 06 November 2013 - 06:05 PM.

[FupDup]

GalaxyBluestar, on 06 November 2013 - 06:03 PM, said:

not liking the gun fixtures ontop of canon fixtures?

too bad because you asked for it!


look forward to seeing these on the field at some point.

This thread is about the goofed up ears on the A1, not about big ballistics mounted in the K2.

[GalaxyBluestar]

FupDup, on 06 November 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

This thread is about the goofed up ears on the A1, not about big ballistics mounted in the K2.

well this is what happens when you want to mess around with the art work take the good with the bad.

also looking forward to....

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Zylo, on 31 January 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

I think someone had suggested a larger side torso when large ballistic weapons are equipped on the K2 (I seem to remember some concept art edited to show larger side torsos). I think this would be reasonable because the machine guns shown on the K2 shouldn't be shooting gauss, AC/20 or UAC/5 without having a graphic change that expands the side torso a bit.

I think this should be done for all mechs, expanding the weapons shown on the mech if a larger weapon is equipped than the stock variant and also expanding hitboxes when the weapon loads require more space.

my reply...

no no no no no please lets not even discuss the extra art stuff or i'll start requesting someone takes the barrels from the awesome and shove six on a stalker to justify the 6ppc version... you know how silly that is.

lets see the huge barrels on light mechs and have their hitboxes ruined too!

Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 06 November 2013 - 06:17 PM.

[Buzzkillin]

My only say in this is if you put missiles that exceed the catapult's original limit(15,20, depending on which variant) then add the side missiles. OR let the player choose if he wants to shoot in waves if they want everything in one pod. (So putting 3 LRM 5's won't stack them onto the pod, they will instead fit in to a LRM15"

[Airborne Thunder]

Ngamok, on 06 November 2013 - 11:52 AM, said:

Why is everyone complaining? According to all you forum goers, the ears aren't the problem. You are going to die through the cockpit anyways because that's all gets hit apparently.

I don't care about the hitbox size. It's the appearance that irritates me. There was nothing wrong wit the way they were. Now they look stupid.

[GalaxyBluestar]

Buzzkillin, on 06 November 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

My only say in this is if you put missiles that exceed the catapult's original limit(15,20, depending on which variant) then add the side missiles. OR let the player choose if he wants to shoot in waves if they want everything in one pod. (So putting 3 LRM 5's won't stack them onto the pod, they will instead fit in to a LRM15"

sensible request but people want more and wanted visual representations of the omni style customisation, now they have it it's a huge fuss, selectaively though. damned if you do damnd if you don't {scrap} in this thread.

[Airborne Thunder]

Black Templar, on 06 November 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

please keep it friendly and constructive. they are watching you now...

Good, please tell them that the missle changes are probably about the dumbest decision they have made to date.. Except of course for the C-bill nerf, Ghost Heat, 3rd person view lies, etc. ...

[Wildflame]

As the proud owner of a 6xLRM15 Catapult-A1, I feel there are not enough missiles displayed on the model and would like to submit alternative art for the design team to use at their discretion as reference material.



I would also appreciate an update as to when the colour scheme will be applied to the additional pods, to ensure aesthetic consistency. Matte black, as you may have guessed, does not suit my style.

[Galenit]

GalaxyBluestar, on 06 November 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

sensible request but people want more and wanted visual representations of the omni style customisation, now they have it it's a huge fuss, selectaively though. damned if you do damnd if you don't {scrap} in this thread.

But why did they do it this way?

They had allready 3 different missileboxes for the cat.
Simple solution:
Use the 3 boxes that exists for up to 10, 30 and 60 missiles and put the lego inside of it. The smallest one must be shrinked a little bit, the biggest one enlarged a little bit to represent that.
Lego means something like this ugly things, but you only see the frontpannels of them if the flaps are open.
If you use 3 ssrm2 you will see 3 launcherpannels with 2 holes, if you use 3 lrm20 you will see 3 pannels with 20 holes each. If you use a a1 with only 2 launchers, there will be 1 empty panel to represent that.

If it should look good, then there would be a system for every cat with matching pannels.
C1 boxes with 1 pannel, c4 boxes with 2 pannels, a1 boxes with 3 pannels.

This way you see on the box size if the cat fields up to 10, 30 or 60 missiles and if he open the flaps you can see what launchers are installed.


If i look at this addons that dont match the style of the mech, it dont want to see the lego omni mechs ....


The ppc barrels look a little tiny, maybe they should give them a mesh (barrel with lots of holes, like heavy mgs have) around them. I think this would look better ...

[Airborne Thunder]

Seriously, someone actually woke up, went to a board meeting and said "I have an idea that would make this game sooo much better. Let's put missile launchers outside the missile launchers on the Catapults! And let's increase the size of the Catapult A1's launchers even though there is plenty of room for the default LRM 15 launchers". Seriously, these are the people I give copious amounts of money to. What is wrong with me?

[Shakespeare]

Galenit, on 06 November 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:

But why did they do it this way?

They had allready 3 different missileboxes for the cat.
Simple solution:
Use the 3 boxes that exists for up to 10, 30 and 60 missiles and put the lego inside of it. The smallest one must be shrinked a little bit, the biggest one enlarged a little bit to represent that.
Lego means something like this ugly things, but you only see the frontpannels of them if the flaps are open.
If you use 3 ssrm2 you will see 3 launcherpannels with 2 holes, if you use 3 lrm20 you will see 3 pannels with 20 holes each. If you use a a1 with only 2 launchers, there will be 1 empty panel to represent that.

If it should look good, then there would be a system for every cat with matching pannels.
C1 boxes with 1 pannel, c4 boxes with 2 pannels, a1 boxes with 3 pannels.

This way you see on the box size if the cat fields up to 10, 30 or 60 missiles and if he open the flaps you can see what launchers are installed.


If i look at this addons that dont match the style of the mech, it dont want to see the lego omni mechs ....


The ppc barrels look a little tiny, maybe they should give them a mesh (barrel with lots of holes, like heavy mgs have) around them. I think this would look better ...

There was no reason to alter the PPC barrel size in the first place, except to match the 'small' style seen on modified chassis (atlas with PPC on arms, K2 w/ PPC in torso, etc). I don't think it was worth trashing the stock look.

[Tommy The K]

I'm more of a lurker than a poster, but I have to say I dislike this design change to the Catapult-A1. I won't use it anymore. I just wanted to voice my displeasure of your creative choice.

[CrashieJ]

Shadey99, on 05 November 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

Yeah... I just glanced at my my A1 and this is what I see:


Really... I can't fit a pair of SSRM2s in that large bottom box...? Or even inside the pod...?

crappy fix needs crappy comeback

[MoonUnitBeta]

Deathlike, on 06 November 2013 - 09:30 AM, said:

Imagine if they tacked on what they did with the Catapult onto the Madcat.

This terribad concept is bad, and PGI should feel bad. There should be a more intelligent way of making this better.

*the realization that the Mad Cat has ears just like the Catapult....*
*the thought of what the Mad Cat would look like with the current Catapult's ears...*


*childhood dreams out the window*

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 06 November 2013 - 08:28 PM.

[repete]

focuspark, on 06 November 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

Good, as a paying (and annoyed customer) I hope they pay very close attention.

You must be new here...

[MoonUnitBeta]

Jin Ma, on 05 November 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

Rofl. I just saw this picture and... this is instantly what my mind went to:



Anyways, this isn't -as- bad as the new ears.. Atleast the side profile hitbox got SMALLER.
I'm really worried about these new missile pod ears I don't know how else to express my anxiety outside of really loud yelling and photoshop.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 06 November 2013 - 08:25 PM.

[Laserkid]

Ok, I like the changes. In game terms this means that if one has an LRM15 and 2 SRM6s or SSRM2s that means the LRM cover can be down and grant the 15% damage reduction AND the SRMs can be snap shot without the .5 sec delay.

[Malleus011]

Laserkid, on 06 November 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Ok, I like the changes. In game terms this means that if one has an LRM15 and 2 SRM6s or SSRM2s that means the LRM cover can be down and grant the 15% damage reduction AND the SRMs can be snap shot without the .5 sec delay.

Nope. Users tests have shown the exposed tubes have the delay. You get all the bad and none of the good.

[GalaxyBluestar]

MoonUnitBeta, on 06 November 2013 - 07:48 PM, said:

*the realization that the Mad Cat has ears just like the Catapult....*
*the thought of what the Mad Cat would look like with the current Catapult's ears...*


*childhood dreams out the window*

Shakespeare, on 06 November 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

There was no reason to alter the PPC barrel size in the first place, except to match the 'small' style seen on modified chassis (atlas with PPC on arms, K2 w/ PPC in torso, etc). I don't think it was worth trashing the stock look.

it's too late guys they've been cooking up these scrape heap challenge mutations ever since the "i want cool stuff to justify my trololol builds" crowd came along last year. the designs are only going to look more ridiculous as ac20's are justified to fit on ravens etc etc. some of us warned this would happen so i have no sympathy for the problem. the "moar rambo gunz on me mechs" crowd for omni style customisation have got their bed and they can lie in it.