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Fixed Catapult Geometry Has Broken The A1

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#1701 Damia Savon

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 02:39 PM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 02 March 2016 - 07:52 AM, said:


I have an idea how they could solve the missile arms, but I don't think they will do it.

Instead of the box being the arm (like it currently is), have the post it sits on be the actual arm, and the box be the variable geometry weapon. They could make a few different sized boxes for big/small LRMs and SRM launchers. If no missiles were equipped, the boxes would be gone but the post would remain.

Any shot to the weapon would automatically apply to the arm as it should.


While I like this idea, I am worried that LRM5 and SRMs will look absurdly small compared to the main body. Not sure how multiple boxes would work for the 4 LRM10 builds, 4/6 LRM5 builds, various splatcats, etc. While I think the VCR boxes will go away, I am seriously not sure how they are going to make the multiple missile hardpoints work in a single box without it just being different lines of tubes or something.

#1702 Troutmonkey

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 04:15 PM

View PostSader325, on 18 March 2016 - 03:36 PM, said:

Science was performed.

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 09:59 PM

View Postcdlord, on 21 March 2016 - 11:34 AM, said:

Anyone see the new CPLT?? Bump, then gonna crosspost.

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No missile boxes yet but look at those PPCs, high mounted ballistics and the detail.... I think this is a test model with all the hardpoints so not a configuration allowed, but still... Thanks to Bishop for finding this.

MmmmMm and the tasty oblong hexagon lazer yas!

View PostMATRAKA14, on 21 March 2016 - 12:01 PM, said:

It looks awesome. But those ppcs could be a bit longer like the original ones.

The shroud makes them look more stubby than they are, looks great.

#1704 MATRAKA14

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 11:13 PM

View PostXphR, on 21 March 2016 - 09:59 PM, said:

The shroud makes them look more stubby than they are, looks great.


No, they are shorter than the originals. They should be a bit longer

#1705 zudukai

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 03:41 AM

i think i recall catching sight of the CPLT C1 with new missile racks in one of Tina Benoit's streams and it appeared to be much narrower then the current model, resembling a LRM 10 rack if i were to guess, i think they went with dynamic box sizes, maybe... starting at the 10 and scaling their way up.

i had a look last night to see if i could snap a screenshot of the match but it was not recorded and it was more then a stream or two ago.

maybe we can convince them to share that image too?

#1706 CDLord HHGD

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:26 AM

View PostTriordinant, on 21 March 2016 - 02:11 PM, said:

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#1707 zudukai

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 02:14 PM

when was this change supposed to take effect? maybe we will know more after this town hall...

#1708 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 02:04 AM

I'd imagine we will know soon.

The sooner it comes, the better :).

#1709 Damia Savon

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:13 AM

I am really hoping they show a side by side tomorrow.

#1710 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 11:44 AM

View PostDamia Savon, on 31 March 2016 - 11:13 AM, said:

I am really hoping they show a side by side tomorrow.


Me too!

#1711 cazidin

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 12:38 PM

View PostDamia Savon, on 31 March 2016 - 11:13 AM, said:

I am really hoping they show a side by side tomorrow.


Also the Kodiak, Phoenix Hawk, CW Phase III, Command Console buffs, April Roadmap, how many beers Russ had for breakfast, the status of Info War, Power Draw/Ghost Heat II AND what the meaning of Life, the Universe and Everything rounded up for inflation is.

I don't think that I'm asking too much.

#1712 zudukai

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Posted 24 April 2016 - 08:17 PM

so, i guess we are waiting till the global resize before we get the new missile racks?

#1713 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 25 April 2016 - 01:55 AM

View Postzudukai, on 24 April 2016 - 08:17 PM, said:

so, i guess we are waiting till the global resize before we get the new missile racks?


Looks that way Posted Image

#1714 Mavairo

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Posted 25 April 2016 - 08:01 AM

View PostTroutmonkey, on 21 March 2016 - 04:15 PM, said:

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Still with a pair of Weeny PPCs Ugh. GIVE US BACK THE ORIGINAL BARRELS

#1715 Malleus011

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Posted 25 April 2016 - 10:49 AM

We need to see the new Cat side-by-side with the old Cat; we don't know how much the body was reduced.

Could we get a sneak peek?

#1716 Damia Savon

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Posted 25 April 2016 - 11:24 AM

View PostMalleus011, on 25 April 2016 - 10:49 AM, said:

We need to see the new Cat side-by-side with the old Cat; we don't know how much the body was reduced.

Could we get a sneak peek?


I keep pushing Tina gently to get a side by side everytime I can, especially one with the missile racks. Russ is probably being a **** as usual.

#1717 cazidin

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Posted 25 April 2016 - 02:04 PM

View PostDamia Savon, on 25 April 2016 - 11:24 AM, said:


I keep pushing Tina gently to get a side by side everytime I can, especially one with the missile racks. Russ is probably being a **** as usual.


While one shouldn't assume, if we make an exception in this case then it'll be shrunk by almost as much as the Nova was. Using what few photos we have available of the new model and Photoshop we can determine that the difference will be significant.

#1718 C E Dwyer

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Posted 25 April 2016 - 02:06 PM

View Postcazidin, on 21 March 2016 - 02:19 PM, said:


Barantor, I promise you, I shall purchase the Buttlebee variant of the Catapult and I WILL find the UGLIEST combination of black, yellow and stripes for the camo. And after I do this... I shall find you after probably several dozen random matches... and you shall weep at the sight of my mech.

(If for some reason the RNG gods do not place us in the same match on the same team then that would foil my evil plan completely. Hrm.)

Screen shot for the win.

More importantly...

When !

Edited by Cathy, 25 April 2016 - 02:10 PM.


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Posted 25 April 2016 - 02:09 PM

View PostMalleus011, on 05 November 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

So I went and checked out the new Catapult upgrades. Proper Autocannon barrels on the K2's at last. Updated PPC barrels. Nice.

Unfortunately, they also 'fixed' the A1, and I mean fixed like you do to your pets. If you add extra missile launchers over the first, it adds extra missile launchers to the outside of the missile box. Use three LRM5s? Sorry, only 5 tubes fit under the armored cover. The rest make your arms wider and taller ... with extra external launchers. Three SRM4s? Same problem ... only 4 tubes fit under the cover. A 15 and two streaks? Yeah, couldn't fit those extra tubes under the cover either. Does the box get smaller if you mount a small main launcher? Hell no, it's just as huge for an LRM5 as an LRM15.

It's not a little, slim add-on launcher either. It makes the arms gigantic.

I mean, really now. The A1 was tough enough to pilot already; with all six hard points being M and clustered in each arm. But now to add oversize novelty 'ears' to an A1 that actually uses those hard points ... that's just mean.

It seems reasonable to me than 15-20 tubes should fit under the armored box cover. Why was this even messed with?

I wish the boxes themselves would change as the geometry. I don't see why that would be so hard.

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Posted 22 June 2016 - 10:56 AM

*cough cough*

Spoiler


good work on the arm /s

Edited by zudukai, 22 June 2016 - 10:56 AM.






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