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Linking Hardpoints And Heat Scales


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#1 Wonderdog

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 08:58 AM

I've been mulling over ways to refine the way ghost heat works in a manner that also differentiates chassis and less-used variants in a meaningful way, while giving mechs reasons to avoid current FoTM alpha builds. Initially this was via the mech quirk system, but I believe the following as more flexible?

Current situation:
  • PGI are currently against implementing hardpoint size limits as a mechlab restriction, and rightly so, as it completely restricts loadout options.
  • On the other hand, a total lack of hardpoint restrictions leads only to FoTM builds and alpha boating in a few mechs with particularly survivable geometry.
  • Ghost heat hurts the effectiveness of many already unpopular chassis as much (if not more) than it impacts FoTM mechs.

Suggestion
  • Rather than limit hard-point load-outs based on weapon "size", give large weapons mounted in smaller hard-points a heat penalty, to represent that fact that the heatsink feeds to such weapon mounts are not designed for larger weapons.
  • Permits consistent differentiation of mechs, and provides another dial to make less popular chassis more desirable (less hardpoints than another similiar tonnage mech or varient, but they might be bigger).
  • Does not stop anyone building any mech varient they want, simply levels the playing field and encourages appropriate builds.

E.g.

Currently
Awesome-8Q, comes stock with 3 PPC's - 5 hardpoints (1RA, 2RT, 2LT). Alpha's its stock loadout and currently melts due to ghost heat.

Proposed
PGI Designate 3 hardpoints on the 8Q as "large" (1RA, 1RT, 1LT) and 2 as medium (1RT, 1LT). As large weapons mounted in large hardpoint locations do not count towards the ghost heat system when alpha'd or rapid chain fired. Awesome-8Q becomes somewhat viable in its role as a heavy energy boat.

Stalker trying to do the same thing will melt due to not having enough large size energy hardpoints on the chassis, they won't be prevented from mounting 4 PPC's if desired - they'll just suffer if they do... mounting a more interesting mixed loadout with appropriate weapon sizes = no problem though.


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#2 DashFire61

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 12:31 PM

I have to disagree with you completely, we need hardpoint restrictions across the board, you should not be able to fit an ac2 in a machine gun hardpoint let alone an ac 10 or 20; i.e. the ac 20 raven, loadouts are supposed to be limited, mechs are built for a role and their hardpoints reflect that role.

#3 Diego Angelus

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 12:47 PM

View PostWonderdog, on 12 November 2013 - 08:58 AM, said:

  • PGI are currently against implementing hardpoint size limits as a mechlab restriction, and rightly so, as it completely restricts loadout options.



I have no idea why they are agains't it that makes more specialized mechs and more unique so they are more likely to be used
not to mention we won't see so many same builds on so many mechs which is ridiculous. Yeah it makes more sense to let raven mount ac20...

So your soultion is more ghost heat XD

Edited by Diego Angelus, 07 December 2013 - 12:48 PM.


#4 Slash Beastleo

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 12:52 PM

I would prefer proper hardpoints restriction, but if PGI doesn't like that idea, I think your suggestion is a good alternative.

#5 Jaeger Gonzo

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 04:19 PM

**** PGI. We want hardpoitns restriction.





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