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[AnarchyBurger]

Soooooo much worse than the gauss ppc meta. At least you could see what was going on.

[FupDup]

AnarchyBurger, on 15 November 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

Soooooo much worse than the gauss ppc meta.

That's pretty debatable. In the so-called "AC meta" going on now, close combat actually happens more than once in a blue moon, and mechs do on average survive longer (although perhaps still not long enough). You can also get away with sub-optimal builds a lot easier than you could during the reign of PPCs (because you don't get alpha'd to death as fast).

Edited by FupDup, 15 November 2013 - 07:58 PM.

[AnarchyBurger]

welp a big disagree there. Last 10 games or so i've seen over half the teams with ac (2's 5's or 20's) with a random build here and there. Typically it goes whoever gets the first jump because once a team of ACs gets at 1-2 teammembers the numbers are off and its done. Back when the PPC meta existed I saw long somewhat skillful drawn out games. Now its just blast blast blast done. Christ ive even seen premade jumpsnipes (PPC gauss) get taken out recently by AC overload. Overall my point was games are more boring and uneven than ever that ive seen, even since before ELO was put in.

Addendum: The invuln spider army is a random counter to the AC meta that does work well. But can also backfire horribly (SSRM)

[Roadbeer]

Do I really need to say it?

[Magic Space Mafia]

Some people need something to whine about I guess. It's not a huge problem. The fact that you're also complaining about "invuln spiders" says a lot. Last couple patches have pretty much resolved the Spider thing for everyone else. I can kill them no problem.

[GalaxyBluestar]

my lasers have been nerfed and my hitreg is broken and i hate the ac spam...

worst meta?

not by a long shot.

Roadbeer, on 15 November 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

Do I really need to say it?

yes forumites need the word and cake spread.

[Roadbeer]

GalaxyBluestar, on 15 November 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

yes forumites need the word and cake spread.

Ok then...

This thread is NEW and EXCITING

[FupDup]

Roadbeer, on 15 November 2013 - 08:09 PM, said:

Do I really need to say it?

You really need to say it.

[Sandpit]

I'm glad someone finally got the nerve to post about this

[FupDup]

AnarchyBurger, on 15 November 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

welp a big disagree there. Last 10 games or so i've seen over half the teams with ac (2's 5's or 20's) with a random build here and there.

I wouldn't really count the AC/2 as part of the meta. It's kinda meh right now.

AnarchyBurger, on 15 November 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

Typically it goes whoever gets the first jump because once a team of ACs gets at 1-2 teammembers the numbers are off and its done.

That's what happens in every meta. In a world of no-respawn, taking out one or more enemy mechs is prone to causing "snowball" effects a large amount of the time. Dat momentum.

AnarchyBurger, on 15 November 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

Back when the PPC meta existed I saw long somewhat skillful drawn out games. Now its just blast blast blast done.

Well, my own antedote is that those drawn out games happen more often these days, partly due to the fact that ACs tend to not be as frontloaded in their damage as PPCs (mainly the smaller ACs), and the larger ACs are harder to boat than PPCs.

AnarchyBurger, on 15 November 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

Christ ive even seen premade jumpsnipes (PPC gauss) get taken out recently by AC overload.

Most PPC jumpsnipers technically use a mixture of PPCs and AC/s these days.

Edited by FupDup, 15 November 2013 - 08:20 PM.

[xMEPHISTOx]

Roadbeer, on 15 November 2013 - 08:14 PM, said:

Ok then...

This thread is NEW and EXCITING

Redundancy is kind of the thing round here.

[Sandpit]

[Heffay]

AnarchyBurger, on 15 November 2013 - 08:07 PM, said:

Back when the PPC meta existed I saw long somewhat skillful drawn out games. Now its just blast blast blast done.