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[Crashing]

The build:

Cataphract-4X
Speed: 59
Tons: 70
Firepower: 43
Heat Eff: 1.51
Armor: 432 Standard
Structure: Endo-Steel
Engine: XL-255
Heat Sinks: Double


Hardpoints:
Center Torso: 2 Medium Laser
Head: 1 SRM 4
Right Torso: 4 Gauss Ammo (doesn't explode when critted)
Left Torso: C.A.S.E., 1 Double Heat Sink, 4 LB 10-X Ammo, 1 SRM Ammo
Left Arm: LB 10-X AC
Right Arm: Gauss Rifle

Now I know what a lot of you are thinking, oh ya another gauss rifle sniper, but eff that noise, this is a brawler. I do my best work at medium range, ducking in and out of cover and concealment. This causes a lot of pilots to run up on you, where the medium lasers and SRM come in.

I run the gauss rifle in 1, the LB 10X in 2, and the MLs and SRM in 3/4. I only use the lasers and SRM in close range, the LB 10-X in close to medium range, and the gauss at long range only until I close the distance. I never sit back and snipe with the gauss, as its wastes this mechs potential. Because it has the 255 XL you can move at decent speed and ambush from close range.

You'll notice a particular cadence or rhythm when you get rocking. The LB10 blasts off, just as the gauss round is loaded, you let that thing rock and run the MLs and SRM, just as the LB 10 comes back online to repeat the process. Its a wonderful pattern and you know you are maxing your damage when you feel it.

The LB 10 has a particular versatility to it that suits well this mech. It still does damage at decent range, so I use it to keep enemy heads down while I move in on them. The impact is intimidating. Once close in I let them have it, but keep moving. This mech is particularly well-suited against medium to assault mechs. It can deal with lights but they are a giant pain in the ***.

Remember, use that LB 10 to blast off pop-shots while you maneuver for a good gauss hit and remember to get CLOSE! You don't have any AMS so stay concealed as you move. Master the cadence and plan your gauss shots for enemies you can see getting ready to come out from behind cover. Lastly, make it your mission to run out of ammo. Both 1k games I had, I didn't realize how well I was doing until I heard "gauss ammo 25%, LB-10 ammo 25%." Then I knew I'd dealt a lot of damage. A good game for me is above 700. An average is around 500. I feel silly coming in at 399 or less.

Good luck.

Edited by Crashing, 21 December 2013 - 06:51 PM.

[Autobot9000]

All the high damage results come from your team mates takign the damage for you. You could do this with practically any build.

[Gigastrike]

If you're gonna use a gauss rifle for brawling then you're better off trading it for an AC/10 for the vastly better dps. Also, C.A.S.E. doesn't protect you if you have an XL engine.

This mech should keep the spirit of yours while being a complete upgrade. Note the standard engine that would allow you to survive if you lose a side torso.

Edited by Gigastrike, 18 November 2013 - 09:50 AM.

[CygnusX7]

All that typing and no link to smurf?
CTF-4X

Lowered to an XL250 and added an AMS.

Edited by CygnusX7, 18 November 2013 - 11:11 AM.

[Redshift2k5]

By the way, you can slap the Print Screen key and it will save a full res screenshot of the game client and save it to /Piranha Games/Mechwarrior Online/USER/Screenshots to save you the trouble of taking a photograph of your monitor.

[Modo44]

Looks like it runs nearly heat-neutral, I like. How do you deal with so many weapon groups? Would it not lose to a simple dual Gauss build if caught at long range?

[CGB Behemoth]

Maybe this build is good enought for lowELO players group. Slow, easy dying (XL is not good for BIG CTF + Ammo at LT), bad in armour destruction.

[Autobot9000]

Nonesense, XLs run absolutely fine in a CTF.

[Crashing]

Good point on the case on an XL engine. And I don't need teammates to soak up damage as I can kill an atlas in a couple seconds 1v1. I've got maxxed armor so I can take some heat, and with a 59 k run speed I can get in cover if I get beat up. You can say "you can run this with any build" all you want, but this is my only mech that tops 1k, because its got balance.

This mech is best when I stay on the assault. the damage up close is so fast and tight I rarely have to deal with a mech for long before they turn to spread it out or run, in which case they give you your back and they are done. If I had a couple lucky games maybe, but I don't win by hanging back. as I said, this isn't a sniper mech, this is an assaulter. You just have to be accurate and deal the damage out quickly. I usually die from CT kills, because i'm constantly face on and moving forward. I rarely lose a side torso and die as a result. I run XLs in other mechs that aren't built like this and I lose the RT/LT a lot. Not so here.

Edited by Crashing, 18 November 2013 - 06:27 PM.

[Crashing]

Ya dual gauss mech is the only thing I had a hard time with, as in Cat K2 with DGs. Other than that, there is no mech or build I don't go after and win 1v1. I can't remember the last 1v1 fight I lost with this mech.

[Op4blushift]

CygnusX7, on 18 November 2013 - 11:06 AM, said:

All that typing and no link to smurf?
CTF-4X

Lowered to an XL250 and added an AMS.

the 255 weighs exactly the same as a 250..

[Quinton]

59 kph? my cicada with 4 mpl will run behind you and stay behind you till i happily core your rear end, see you on the battlefield.

[BlackIronTarkus]

Doesnt know what is smurfy and how to link a build, use a camera instead of using the print screen button on his keyboard, thinks case is remotly useful at all... yes thats an internet nub we have here!

But A+ for the effort!

EDIT: To undo the nubbness.

This is smurfy:http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/

Use it to build mech, then press the save button and copy past the link to share it.

To take screenshots, simply press PRINT SCREEN(Prt Scm) on your keyboard, open paint, clic edit, clic paste, save it. Then either upload it directly or save it on a file sharing website.

Case is not worth the tonnage.

Edited by BlackIronTarkus, 18 November 2013 - 07:01 PM.

[FireSlade]

Crashing, on 17 November 2013 - 05:44 PM, said:

Spoiler

This build may come off as confused at first, but if you master the rhythm it ruins lots of people.

First, bragging rights. This is simply so you KNOW it works.




The build:

Cataphract-4X
Speed: 59
Tons: 70
Firepower: 43
Heat Eff: 1.51
Armor: 432 Standard
Structure: Endo-Steel
Engine: XL-255
Heat Sinks: Double


Hardpoints:
Center Torso: 2 Medium Laser
Head: 1 SRM 4
Right Torso: 4 Gauss Ammo (doesn't explode when critted)
Left Torso: C.A.S.E., 1 Double Heat Sink, 4 LB 10-X Ammo, 1 SRM Ammo
Left Arm: LB 10-X AC
Right Arm: Gauss Rifle

Now I know what a lot of you are thinking, oh ya another gauss rifle sniper, but eff that noise, this is a brawler. I do my best work at medium range, ducking in and out of cover and concealment. This causes a lot of pilots to run up on you, where the medium lasers and SRM come in.

I run the gauss rifle in 1, the LB 10X in 2, and the MLs and SRM in 3/4. I only use the lasers and SRM in close range, the LB 10-X in close to medium range, and the gauss at long range only until I close the distance. I never sit back and snipe with the gauss, as its wastes this mechs potential. Because it has the 255 XL you can move at decent speed and ambush from close range.

You'll notice a particular cadence or rhythm when you get rocking. The LB10 blasts off, just as the gauss round is loaded, you let that thing rock and run the MLs and SRM, just as the LB 10 comes back online to repeat the process. Its a wonderful pattern and you know you are maxing your damage when you feel it.

The LB 10 has a particular versatility to it that suits well this mech. It still does damage at decent range, so I use it to keep enemy heads down while I move in on them. The impact is intimidating. Once close in I let them have it, but keep moving. This mech is particularly well-suited against medium to assault mechs. It can deal with lights but they are a giant pain in the ***.

Remember, use that LB 10 to blast off pop-shots while you maneuver for a good gauss hit and remember to get CLOSE! You don't have any AMS so stay concealed as you move. Master the cadence and plan your gauss shots for enemies you can see getting ready to come out from behind cover. Lastly, make it your mission to run out of ammo. Both 1k games I had, I didn't realize how well I was doing until I heard "gauss ammo 25%, LB-10 ammo 25%." Then I knew I'd dealt a lot of damage. A good game for me is above 700. An average is around 500. I feel silly coming in at 399 or less.

Good luck.

Hate to say this but the CTF-4X is a ballistics beast at the cost of being a heavy slower than an assault; nothing really new there. I get similar results running a much simpler design. http://mwo.smurfy-ne...388141736472a41 4 AC5 for an AC20 every 1.5 seconds that hits full strength out to 620 meters with a ML for back up. If you have decent aim and shoot under 620 meters 240 rounds is good for 1200 damage which will take 60 shots to unload plus you have the ML for backup but because of heat avoid it for the most part. Also stick with the assault on your team, since they tend to get shot more, and watch your rear so that you do not die from a flanking light. And please if you run that build link your fire and do not chain. All that does is kill your DPS and spread damage uselessly over the enemy just for a little troll points.

[Sug]

Literal screenshot.

Edited by Sug, 18 November 2013 - 08:31 PM.

[Autobot9000]

Crashing, on 18 November 2013 - 06:17 PM, said:

You can say "you can run this with any build" all you want, but this is my only mech that tops 1k, because its got balance.

I am gonna say this: If you can show me 5 matches where you top 1k damage, say within the next 2 weeks, then I am going to seriously believe it has something to do with your build.
Saying this I am not gonna be shy to give the advice, that the XL255 has the same weight as the XL250, so you might as well take that (it's how I run my CTF-4x with 4xAC5 and 270 rounds).

Edited by Autobot9000, 19 November 2013 - 04:44 AM.

[627]

When do you people learn that high damage is not everything?

You can deal massive amounts of damage just with some streaks but it will be spread all over the enemy mech. Same for the LB-X (have to say i LOVE the LB-X): You damage everything for 1 Point of damage, not more (crits aside).

What you want is not getting the top damage score. What you want is win and second top killing.

Killing is the only thing that impacts the outcome of a match. I have matches with my yen-lo-wang with 6 kills but not even 250 damage.

And no, not kill stealing. AIMING! Hitting where it counts! Not evenly scratching paint off a mech.

And one last thing, no offense but you are 2 month into the game so i doubt you arrived in any higher elo brackets.

Play some more month and I doubt you'll get these numbers with that build ever again.

[Levon K]

Looks like a build that relies on the rest of the team to be decent.

[NuclearPanda]

627, on 19 November 2013 - 05:22 AM, said:

When do you people learn that high damage is not everything?

You can deal massive amounts of damage just with some streaks but it will be spread all over the enemy mech. Same for the LB-X (have to say i LOVE the LB-X): You damage everything for 1 Point of damage, not more (crits aside).

What you want is not getting the top damage score. What you want is win and second top killing.

Killing is the only thing that impacts the outcome of a match. I have matches with my yen-lo-wang with 6 kills but not even 250 damage.

And no, not kill stealing. AIMING! Hitting where it counts! Not evenly scratching paint off a mech.

And one last thing, no offense but you are 2 month into the game so i doubt you arrived in any higher elo brackets.

Play some more month and I doubt you'll get these numbers with that build ever again.

Exactly this. I've had plenty of games where I've run my Streakapult and cleared 1300 damage Doesn't mean I was going beast mode though.

Let the OP have his fun though. If he is having FUN with the game then that is all that matters in my opinion.

[627]

NuclearPanda, on 19 November 2013 - 05:43 AM, said:

Let the OP have his fun though. If he is having FUN with the game then that is all that matters in my opinion.

Isn't that the only reason why we still play this game? PGI did so many things wrong, but one thing they did damn right.