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[Deathz Jester]

Over on the Star Citizen forums; mostly full of slander it appears, although I did skim through it.


https://forums.rober...scussion/41992/


A post that caught my eye was this one below, I saw the images while searching for something else on google related to mechwarrior and thats how I saw the thread to begin with.


https://forums.rober...#Comment_667628

[Roadbeer]

What's cute is that the first time that Chris Roberts does something that half of those posters don't agree with, it'll be the same thing over there.. QQ, CRI LIED, ELECTRONS DIED, etc, etc, etc..

You just cant please the low-survival-skills, entitled, generation that believes everyone gets a trophy and that Obamacare will take care of everything.

Stupid is universal, doesn't matter what forum they're on.

[Deathz Jester]

I also like how this thread was buried into jettisoned almost instantaneously lol

[Egomane]

If you want to discuss the behavior of some disgruntled players, unsatisfied with MWO, insulting to everyone who disagrees with them, hellbend on destroying MWO if they can by bad word of mouth in a thread full of insults to everyone developing, playing or discussing MWO on the forums, that this is the place where it belongs!

[Deathz Jester]

Egomane, on 08 November 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

If you want to discuss the behavior of some disgruntled players, unsatisfied with MWO, insulting to everyone who disagrees with them, hellbend on destroying MWO if they can by bad word of mouth in a thread full of insults to everyone developing, playing or discussing MWO on the forums, that this is the place where it belongs!

You do realize that this community is disgruntled, angry, but hellbent on having MWO not destroyed. Sweeping it under the rug isn't going to help anyone.

[Roadbeer]

Iron Harlequin, on 08 November 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

You do realize that this community is disgruntled, angry, but hellbent on having MWO not destroyed. Sweeping it under the rug isn't going to help anyone.

Welcome to K Town!

YMMV.

Have some Cake?

[Heffay]

Iron Harlequin, on 08 November 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

You do realize that this community is disgruntled, angry, but hellbent on having MWO not destroyed. Sweeping it under the rug isn't going to help anyone.

I'm not disgruntled. And I speak for the community. It's official. I have a badge and everything.

[Roadbeer]

Looking at Heffay's

Forum Tag.

Who's leg do I

have to hump

to get "K Town Baker"

Or

"Author of Gospel"

?

[Deathz Jester]

Heffay, on 08 November 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

I'm not disgruntled. And I speak for the community. It's official. I have a badge and everything.

Who are you?

[Egomane]

If they (the ones in the thread over at CIG Forums) don't want it destroyed why are they calling for the downfall of PGI? For the downfall of MWO? Why do they activly tell others how bad this game is, even though some have them haven't even played it for over a year? Do they realize that, if PGI fails, no developer will touch the Mechwarrior franchise for the next 50 years?

These guys do everything to harm MWO and PGI and consistently insult those who play the game. If they do not want to harm MWO then they are hiding this intention very well. They may sometimes write that they only intend good for the franchise, but every action they do, every word they write, is the exact opposite.

[Heffay]

Iron Harlequin, on 08 November 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Who are you?

The speaker of the community. It's like the Speaker for the Dead, but not as emo. I think that role would suit you better.

Want to borrow some black eyeliner?

[Deathz Jester]

Heffay, on 08 November 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

The speaker of the community. It's like the Speaker for the Dead, but not as emo. I think that role would suit you better.

Want to borrow some black eyeliner?

Hows bout you do something constructive for once Heffer

[Roadbeer]

Iron Harlequin, on 08 November 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:

Hows bout you do something constructive for once Heffer

Some Cake,

would make you

a bit less cranky.

Just sayin.

[RG Notch]

Egomane, on 08 November 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

If they (the ones in the thread over at CIG Forums) don't want it destroyed why are they calling for the downfall of PGI? For the downfall of MWO? Why do they activly tell others how bad this game is, even though some have them haven't even played it for over a year? Do they realize that, if PGI fails, no developer will touch the Mechwarrior franchise for the next 50 years?

These guys do everything to harm MWO and PGI and consistently insult those who play the game. If they do not want to harm MWO then they are hiding this intention very well. They may sometimes write that they only intend good for the franchise, but every action they do, every word they write, is the exact opposite.

Wow so the new defend PGI at all costs mantra is if PGI fails there won't be any MW/BT games. LOL. BT/MW have been around before PGI/IGP and will be around long after. It sad the level people have fallen to defend PGI but one shouldn't be surprised.
If MWO fails, there will be more BT/MW games, if MWO fails I doubt there will be any more games from PGI/IGP. LOL.

[Heffay]

Iron Harlequin, on 08 November 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:

Hows bout you do something constructive for once Heffer

You first. Set the example! I know you can be positive and constructive, and not that guy at the party who ******* about the ranch dip!

You can do it!!

As for constructive...Hmm... how about my sig? That work? What have you done for the Mechwarrior community?

Edited by Heffay, 08 November 2013 - 03:30 PM.

[Roadbeer]

It's more along the lines of, M$ is an uncaring behemoth, and as long as they have their claws on the IP, it may be a long time before a BT/MW title surfaces again.

Many of us have been waiting over a decade since MPBT:3025, and I don't want to wait to be in my 50s before I can play another MW title.

So, with all due respect to the OP and those over on the SC forums. Shut The Fu*K UP, I realize that you're young and you have neither a perspective of time, nor an accumulation of disappointments in your life, but for some of us, we've been waiting on this for a long time...

So if you have a legitimate gripe that is more substantial than your usual "PGI ate my baby", which has just become shrill and makes you all sound like petulant, entitled children with tourets that were just told they can't have their favorite candy bar and are throwing a temper tantrum the likes of which God has never seen... then get over yourselves and voice it.

But my money is on that you don't.

Edited by Roadbeer, 08 November 2013 - 03:27 PM.

[Egomane]

RG Notch, on 08 November 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Wow so the new defend PGI at all costs mantra is if PGI fails there won't be any MW/BT games. LOL. BT/MW have been around before PGI/IGP and will be around long after. It sad the level people have fallen to defend PGI but one shouldn't be surprised.
If MWO fails, there will be more BT/MW games, if MWO fails I doubt there will be any more games from PGI/IGP. LOL.

Are we ignoring the fact that there wasn't a developer for Mechwarrior for over a decade already, or aren't we? You might find a dedicated mod group somewhere again. But a real developer? I doubt it very much!

The hatred showcased in that thread over at CIG is mindbending. The ones arguing over there, twisting every information about MWO and PGI into something so evil not even the devil himself could have come up with it, are purely out to help the game and the poor misguided players who somehow still enjoy the game. Interestingly enough, at the same time the players they want to help, have an, and I quote, "intelligence score below room temperature" or are all IGP/PGI make up account so the servers look populated.

This behavior is what harms MWO way more then anything PGI did in the past. The thread over there is nothing but toxic to MWO, PGI and the playerbase and it is so purely out of hate and not because of some noble goal to save mechwarrior. If this is really what they believe, they believe in a lie they created themself.

If this is the way they want to save the franchise, they are doing it wrong. Why would anyone touch a product with a following as toxic as this?

[RG Notch]

Egomane, on 08 November 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

Are we ignoring the fact that there wasn't a developer for Mechwarrior for over a decade already, or aren't we? You might find a dedicated mod group somewhere again. But a real developer? I doubt it very much!

The hatred showcased in that thread over at CIG is mindbending. The ones arguing over there, twisting every information about MWO and PGI into something so evil not even the devil himself could have come up with it, are purely out to help the game and the poor misguided players who somehow still enjoy the game. Interestingly enough, at the same time the players they want to help, have an, and I quote, "intelligence score below room temperature" or are all IGP/PGI make up account so the servers look populated.

This behavior is what harms MWO way more then anything PGI did in the past. The thread over there is nothing but toxic to MWO, PGI and the playerbase and it is so purely out of hate and not because of some noble goal to save mechwarrior. If this is really what they believe, they believe in a lie they created themself.

If this is the way they want to save the franchise, they are doing it wrong. Why would anyone touch a product with a following as toxic as this?

Guess what, if this game fails it's not indicative that BT/MW games won't sell. It's indicative that the wrong company got the rights. There are clear lessons here for future developers. This game isn't having issues attracting new players because of the IP. It's because the developers have created an absolutely awful new player experience and haven't don't much to fix it. This game hasn't lost hardcore competitive players because of the IP. This game hasn't missed virtually all deadlines due to the IP. This game didn't stumble into Open Beta and to it's laughable "launch" due to the IP. This game doesn't have to hide player numbers due to the IP.

So why would another competent company fear to make another game based on the IP? They might fail to make the same repeated mistakes that seem like PGI hallmarks. What successful product has PGI/IGP been associated with.


You can't sell tutorials for MC. You can' sell new maps for MC, or modes. But you can sell new mechs and cockpit items. What do we have more of? So maybe the next try they may realize you can sell lots of other stuff if you actually have lots of players to sell to. Relying on milking a small number of whales is part of the blundering PGI has made.

[Deathz Jester]

Egomane, on 08 November 2013 - 03:29 PM, said:

Are we ignoring the fact that there wasn't a developer for Mechwarrior for over a decade already, or aren't we? You might find a dedicated mod group somewhere again. But a real developer? I doubt it very much! The hatred showcased in that thread over at CIG is mindbending. The ones arguing over there, twisting every information about MWO and PGI into something so evil not even the devil himself could have come up with it, are purely out to help the game and the poor misguided players who somehow still enjoy the game. Interestingly enough, at the same time the players they want to help, have an, and I quote, "intelligence score below room temperature" or are all IGP/PGI make up account so the servers look populated. This behavior is what harms MWO way more then anything PGI did in the past. The thread over there is nothing but toxic to MWO, PGI and the playerbase and it is so purely out of hate and not because of some noble goal to save mechwarrior. If this is really what they believe, they believe in a lie they created themself. If this is the way they want to save the franchise, they are doing it wrong. Why would anyone touch a product with a following as toxic as this?

I could probably point out at-least 10 or more threads here on this forum that are hateful and toxic. We're just desensitized to it here, I guess seeing it in other communities is "shocking". As for why anyone would touch it, well for the same reason other games with toxic communities are played, there are similar games out there but this one is the only "one".Hawken is mechs shooting eachother, but its not Mechwarrior, its Hawken. Someone would touch the IP, since "mechs shooting eachother" isn't a niche genre anymore, just go take a look at Titanfall. Someone willing to pick up the IP would do it, if push came to shove. But I dont want that, I want this game to turn the right way.

RG Notch, on 08 November 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Wow so the new defend PGI at all costs mantra is if PGI fails there won't be any MW/BT games. LOL. BT/MW have been around before PGI/IGP and will be around long after. It sad the level people have fallen to defend PGI but one shouldn't be surprised. If MWO fails, there will be more BT/MW games, if MWO fails I doubt there will be any more games from PGI/IGP. LOL.

I haven't always agreed with everything you've said, but you hit the nail on the head here. I think the community [a large portion] is in the stage of denial that it'll get better if we just ignore the problem. The game development itself though is the problem, its being done poorly. Yea, I'm no developer, nor do I have any games made by me, but I can compare it to similar companies that do way better at listening and caring about their consumer/player-base and the "fun-factor" than this one. Waving silly sales for colors and XP boosts, and premium "Heroes" in our face with silly names doesn't mean you care, it looks more like an afterthought to distract us while you go work on something else. But the etch-a-sketch scheduling [ CW, & most of the content updates] and weird random features [Ghost Heat] are slowly draining the community.

[Heffay]

Iron Harlequin, on 08 November 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

I haven't always agreed with everything you've said, but you hit the nail on the head here. I think the community [a large portion] is in the stage of denial that it'll get better if we just ignore the problem. The game development itself though is the problem, its being done poorly. Yea, I'm no developer, nor do I have any games made by me, but I can compare it to similar companies that do way better at listening and caring about their consumer/player-base and the "fun-factor" than this one. Waving silly sales for colors and XP boosts, and premium "Heroes" in our face with silly names doesn't mean you care, it looks more like an afterthought to distract us while you go work on something else. But the etch-a-sketch scheduling [ CW, & most of the content updates] and weird random features [Ghost Heat] are slowly draining the community.

I'm SO glad you're here to save us from ourselves! Where would we be without you to tell us how awful this game is?! We might *gasp* accidentally find ourselves... No... it's too horrible to contemplate, but it must be said. We might find ourselves /shudder ENJOYING playing the game.

No. No, it's too much. TOO MUCH!!!

So happy we have you here to make such useful and constructive posts like this:

Iron Harlequin, on 08 November 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

Whoever comes up with these sales names needs hosed, beaten, and placed in a cage.

Edited by Heffay, 08 November 2013 - 04:09 PM.