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[Errodien]

DerangedShadow, on 21 November 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

Well I have read the Era Report: 3145 and I can tell you that you don't need to worry about the Wolf in Exiles...since they pretty much assimilated themselves into the Steiner way of life.

Correction: The Crusader Clan Wolf absorbed the Wardens when they betrayed the Lyrans during the FWL War.




The one foretold shall lead us to glorious reckoning and only the faithful shall be allowed to transcend.

[Jarl Dane]

DerangedShadow, on 21 November 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:

Thought this map would you help you out to know the state of the Inner Sphere at the farthest point in time so far.

So the Wolves Empire is just the Crusader Wolves?

[DerangedShadow]

Mech The Dane, on 21 November 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

So the Wolves Empire is just the Crusader Wolves?

Yes

Alaric Wolf wanted to give his clan a challenge so they took the military and only the most needed civilians and moved to where they are now.

[Errodien]

As well as the Wardens of Arc Royal. Technically Alaric (The new Khan) was made of DNA from Katrina, Victor (Steiner-Davion) and Vlad Ward. A Trueborn of the most loosest of terms. He does, however, have a technical claim to the throne of both the Lyran Alliance and the Fed Suns. A fact he attempted to use when he captured Tharkad. The people, obviously, didn't agree and civil unrest forced him to give up Tharkad back to the Lyrans.

The more you know...




We are the Hands of the Master. We are the Will of the Blessed Blake. We are the saviors of humanity.

[CyclonerM]

Errodien, on 21 November 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

We are the Hands of the Master. We are the Will of the Blessed Blake. We are the saviors of humanity.

Star Captain, since when do the saving of humanity comes from nukes?

[DerangedShadow]

Errodien, on 21 November 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

As well as the Wardens of Arc Royal. Technically Alaric (The new Khan) was made of DNA from Katrina, Victor (Steiner-Davion) and Vlad Ward. A Trueborn of the most loosest of terms. He does, however, have a technical claim to the throne of both the Lyran Alliance and the Fed Suns. A fact he attempted to use when he captured Tharkad. The people, obviously, didn't agree and civil unrest forced him to give up Tharkad back to the Lyrans.

The more you know...




We are the Hands of the Master. We are the Will of the Blessed Blake. We are the saviors of humanity.

Techincally they never did capture Tharkad. There was a three way battle for control of the planet, between the Falcons, Wolves, and Steiner. Steiner allowed for the Falcons and Wolves to fight eachother to wittle them down before swooping in and eliminating them.

Edited by DerangedShadow, 21 November 2013 - 01:29 PM.

[Errodien]

CyclonerM, on 21 November 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

Star Captain, since when do the saving of humanity comes from nukes?

Begone abomination. The Masters will be done! You will burn in the holy fires of Blake. Only the Chosen will be left in its wake.




The human race is intrinsically evil. Within each and every one of us may be found salvation and hope, intelligence and grace. But to a much greater degree, each and every one of us harbors greed, selfish pride, lust, and ambition the seeds of our own destruction.

[CyclonerM]

Errodien, on 21 November 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

The human race is intrinsically evil. Within each and every one of us may be found salvation and hope, intelligence and grace. But to a much greater degree, each and every one of us harbors greed, selfish pride, lust, and ambition the seeds of our own destruction.

Either you are not human like us or you are as intrinsically evil like us and thus unable to judge other humans

[pbiggz]

Is it a bad time to note that the master, or Thomas Marik, if you prefer real names, is killed in 3081 on Circinus when regulan warships bombard the planet.

[DerangedShadow]

Alright guys...lets stay on track with helping Marack Drock with the creation of his Clan in this thread.

[CyclonerM]

pbiggz, on 21 November 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

Is it a bad time to note that the master, or Thomas Marik, if you prefer real names, is killed in 3081 on Circinus when regulan warships bombard the planet.

I assume you mean the real Thomas Marik.. Well the ffalse one was much better.

Marack Drock, on 21 November 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

I am not involved in WoB. All I know is that I am reassigning the founding years and we will most likely be started about 150 years before the Clan wars to make it more realistic and I am getting rid of a lot of stuff but the Cult/Religion thing I like. According to Sarna a small group of Wolverines may have escaped, who thinks it would be cool if my Clan had relation to them? Also I will take off the part of when they reemerged to probably after the Clan Wars but I need help on this.

Maybe to make it more original.. What about a group of civilians and soldiers exhaust for a foreign domination, assuming the Clan ways as their owns and starting their own Clan? Something like that?

[Errodien]

Not to be 'That Guy'... Wait a minute, I'm a Blakist, of course I am That Guy.

The Remnants of the Wolverines were picked up by Comstar (Old Comstar mind you) and transferred to secret worlds. Which later changed hands into the Word of Blakes Hidden Five worlds.

See: Jihad Secrets: The Blakist Documents (the portion in question is in the form of a journal, which obviously doesnt tell the full story, thus being acryptical at best. Though it strongly hints.


We are also trying to make something that would stand better than 'random people didn't like clan X and did their own thing' Cycloner.



Some might call us monsters, in the same fashion as all weapons of war are seen as monstrous. But what we do is for the betterment of all. We accept this responsibility willingly, exchanging our very lives to the Master and his vision for a greater glory all might one day share.

Edited by Errodien, 21 November 2013 - 01:47 PM.

[DerangedShadow]

Marack Drock, on 21 November 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

I am not involved in WoB. All I know is that I am reassigning the founding years and we will most likely be started about 150 years before the Clan wars to make it more realistic and I am getting rid of a lot of stuff but the Cult/Religion thing I like. According to Sarna a small group of Wolverines may have escaped, who thinks it would be cool if my Clan had relation to them? Also I will take off the part of when they reemerged to probably after the Clan Wars but I need help on this.

LOL

I would have an issue with that if you incorporated the Wolverines. But to each their own.

[DerangedShadow]

Errodien, on 21 November 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

Not to be 'That Guy'... Wait a minute, I'm a Blakist, of course I am That Guy.

The Remnants of the Wolverines were picked up by Comstar (Old Comstar mind you) and transferred to secret worlds. Which later changed hands into the Word of Blakes Hidden Five worlds.

See: Jihad Secrets: The Blakist Documents (the portion in question is in the form of a journal, which obviously doesnt tell the full story, thus being acryptical at best. Though it strongly hints.

Well, the beauty of what you said is that no one truly knows what happened to the Wolverines. From what Sarna says of their fate, UNKNOWN, the incorporation into ComStar is only a rumor and not the truth.

Sorry Blakist

Edited by DerangedShadow, 21 November 2013 - 01:51 PM.

[CyclonerM]

Errodien, on 21 November 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

Some might call us monsters, in the same fashion as all weapons of war are seen as monstrous. But what we do is for the betterment of all. We accept this responsibility willingly, exchanging our very lives to the Master and his vision for a greater glory all might one day share.

The ends not always justifies the means, you know.
And this includes Crusaders as well

Edited by CyclonerM, 21 November 2013 - 01:51 PM.

[Errodien]

DerangedShadow, on 21 November 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

Well, the beauty of what you said is that no one truly knows what happened to the Wolverines. From what Sarna says of their fate, UNKNOWN, the incorporation into ComStar is only a rumor and not the truth.

Sorry Blakist

No need to be sorry. The Canon writers like to be ambiguous as it allows them to use loose ends for later. Though, it is very obvious from forum posts years ago that they don't care for the Wolverines much.

They have their place fighting off the Aliens in the deep periphery using their 200 ton battlemechs and the stupid chicken things from Far Country. I feel dirty (more than normal!) for mentioning that disgusting book...

Marack Drock, on 21 November 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

Well okay I have a plan. I need some people knowledgeable in Lore and we can collaborate to make a history would that work?

Well you have two people who are bitching at one another about minor canon things. I'd say that is the best you are going to get.

CyclonerM, on 21 November 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

The ends not always justifies the means, you know.
And this includes Crusaders as well

What of the means, if in the end peace is achieved? Blessed Blake will comfort his followers in the afterlife and smite the infidels.




Sursum corda. [Lift up your hearts.] Dignum et justum est. [It is good and right.] Gratias agamus Domino Blake nostro. [Let us give thanks to Blake our lord.]

[CyclonerM]

Marack Drock, on 21 November 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

Well okay I have a plan. I need some people knowledgeable in Lore and we can collaborate to make a history would that work?

I will help you if you defeat me in honorable combat. Well bargained and done?

Errodien, on 21 November 2013 - 02:07 PM, said:

What of the means, if in the end peace is achieved? Blessed Blake will comfort his followers in the afterlife and smite the infidels.

What peace is that in which who survives grows hating and hating so the hate will spark a new war which will create more hate in an end-less chain?

Warriors are meant to defend what they hold dear, not to be "interstellar terrorists" .

[CyclonerM]

Marack Drock, on 21 November 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Well Bargained. Honorable conquest will decide. What do you want if I lose?

If i win in the history you will write your Clan will be allied or at least not enemy of Clan Wolf and Wolf-in-exile

[Joseph Mallan]

Marack Drock, on 21 November 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

Well bargained and done.

Ummm... Terrorists are not so well remembered for their "Honor". If you are going that route, Cycloner has no real reason to honor a Batchall with you, as you are (as written) low as low as Bandit Caste. Understand, I am not tying to tell you how to run your unit, But I would think most Clans would frown on using Terror over straight forward might. Using ambushes are not against Clan Honor so long as the forces laying in wait are bit in the fight (Star Adder). There is a fine line, an terror tactics is that step over IYAM. You may be better to define yourself as a Guerrilla style Clan or an Irregulars

DerangedShadow, on 21 November 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

http://bg.battletech.com/?page_id=1354

http://www.sarna.net...BattleTech_eras


If you are looking for any lore related information. Sarna.net is the place to go



The reason they merged with the periphery nations is that they wanted to survive the Reaving War that was going on in the Clan Homeworlds. They were a weak clan compared to the others and saw how it worked for the Ghost Bears so they wanted to emulate them, just like what the Snow Ravens did with the Outworlds Alliance to create the Raven Alliance. This move into the Periphery came after they merged with the remnants of the Ice Hellions.

I'll be sad then.


But I do like their reasoning.

[Joseph Mallan]

Marack Drock, on 22 November 2013 - 08:01 AM, said:

Well Clans would also frown upon turning down a formal batchall. Clans must uphold their honor to the letter. They did in CW if a Trial was held and they probably would now.

Which is counter to what a terrorist organization would do.
I know my Batchall is rusty but roll with it please.

MechWarrior Cycloner: I challenge you to a duel.
MechWarrior Terrorist: Accepted, we shall meet on the plains of Strana Mechty in the morning.

MechWarrior Cycloner, climbs into the command chair of his OmniMech, and during the start up sequence his Timber Wolf Explodes, killing him. His Tech and damaging 3 other Omnis from his Star.

Terrorist victory!