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[BlackIronTarkus]

Hey guys, Im thinking about buying a gimped awesome just because, but before I do it(and have the CB to do it) I was wondering if someone who owns the 9M could test that build and tell me how it perform.

I believe with some intense torso twisting it could be decent. Plus its a zombie, only downside is that it cannot use the arms.

Anyway here is the build; AWS-9M

I challenge anyone bored enough to do at a good bunch of games with it and post the result here.

Thanks!

[Hoboshank]

Just curious, why FF armor... it gives you less than a ton and a half, why not drop to a 350 std (which has the same intenal's as a 360) and add more heat syncs/armor instead?
Also, might be good to move some of the back armor to the front. The 9M's ability to turn quickly and at a wider angle means you can dictate which side is getting shot at more often than not, and if that side is your front, you can spend more time shooting things.

[Scratx]

I don't have an AWS-9M so I can't help there. However, my two cents on looking at the build...

1- Alpha isn't a lot to write home about
2- Nor is DPS
3- Armor distribution may not be the best. Recommend moving some of that rear armor to the front. Especially since you have such a powerful engine anyway
4- Might want to downgrade to 350 (should be a minor performance loss on engine) and grab an AMS with the 1.5t freed.

And by the way, I have just noticed I was ninja'ed on some of those points, but I'm keeping them anyway

[BP Raven]

I was running This loadout earlier this evening and was somewhat underwhelmed by it to be honest. It's based on a loadout i used to run with an XL380 in it, but i wanted to see how tanky the awesome can be now. There were a few occasions when i lost a side torso, and could practically see the 'oh ****' expression on my oppoent's face and then proceeded to kill them, but on the whole it was to hot and not really enough punch, so i can't see only 2 PPCs being better on the punch front. Maybe my aim is off with them now, having not used them much recently.

Anyway, the other build that i've been using, to reasonably good effect is This one. It's a little hot, but the ghost heat on the LLs isn't too bad. Ideally you have 3 main fire groups (LL, ML, SRM) then two more with the LLs split torso/arm ... a mouse with lots of buttons helps a lot.

You need to work at survival, presenting the component you want to get hit most wherever possible, but the std engine has got me out of more scrapes in the last few days than i can ever remember running with an XL back in the day. The speed loss is noticable, but bearable. Think so far my best with the build was 990 odd damage and 5 kills, but you gotta play smart and careful.

[Tremendous Upside]

BlackIronTarkus, on 20 November 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

Hey guys, Im thinking about buying a gimped awesome just because, but before I do it(and have the CB to do it) I was wondering if someone who owns the 9M could test that build and tell me how it perform.

I believe with some intense torso twisting it could be decent. Plus its a zombie, only downside is that it cannot use the arms.

Anyway here is the build; AWS-9M

I challenge anyone bored enough to do at a good bunch of games with it and post the result here.

Thanks!

This won't work well for you. First time out on canyon or alpine you'll figure out why... Without arm mounted weapons, the limited torso pitch angles will make you helpless when fighting targets above or below you.

[NRP]

BlackIronTarkus, on 20 November 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

Hey guys, Im thinking about buying a gimped awesome just because, but before I do it(and have the CB to do it) I was wondering if someone who owns the 9M could test that build and tell me how it perform. I believe with some intense torso twisting it could be decent. Plus its a zombie, only downside is that it cannot use the arms. Anyway here is the build; AWS-9M I challenge anyone bored enough to do at a good bunch of games with it and post the result here. Thanks!

You will be disappointed.

Seriously, just avoid the Awesomes all together. Get a Battlemaster or Victor instead.

[Op4blushift]

NRP, on 20 November 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

You will be disappointed.

Seriously, just avoid the Awesomes all together. Get a Battlemaster or Victor instead.

As someone who has 3 mastered Awesomes, I'd probably agree. Still, I enjoy giving my 9M a spin every now and then.
( http://mwo.smurfy-ne...echlab#modified the build I use, credit to Helmstif I believe)
I used to run my 8Q and 8R a lot more when ghost heat wasn't in and SRM hit detection wasn't so screwed, but not so much now.

Edited by Op4blushift, 20 November 2013 - 06:51 PM.

[DrBlue62]

As others have said, I'd advise against buying an awesome if you have not already.

It's width makes it a feat to miss and combined with the nature of the game, it's falls apart easily unless you're lucky and get a 1v1 or maintain a decent amount of armor in the late game.

[Deathlike]

You're asking for trouble. It's not worth it unless you're reached boredom.

AWS-9M

That's the best I can do to improve it. Downgrade the engine (350 standard vs 360 std has a minimal difference)

Removing FF helps with the crits, and should maximize the damage by maximizing the medium lasers. If you don't think you need the arm medium laser, you could just convert it into DHS.

AWS-9M

That's an alternative build, adding enough DHS to allow for an ERPPC addition over a regular PPC.

[Sug]

"Awesome"

[xengk]

BlackIronTarkus, on 20 November 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

Hey guys, Im thinking about buying a gimped awesome just because, but before I do it(and have the CB to do it) I was wondering if someone who owns the 9M could test that build and tell me how it perform.

I believe with some intense torso twisting it could be decent. Plus its a zombie, only downside is that it cannot use the arms.

Anyway here is the build; AWS-9M

I challenge anyone bored enough to do at a good bunch of games with it and post the result here.

Thanks!

Don't have a 9M, as I still prefer my 8Q.

Here is a quick tweak AWS-9M
Remove the FF
Drop the engine from STD 360 to STD 320, you will lost about 8kph top speed from the downgrade but free up alot of weight.
Add a LLaz to the arm and slap on 2 extra DHS.
Still got room for AMS w 1t ammo
Max all amour on upper body.

[James Montana]

BlackIronTarkus, on 20 November 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

Hey guys, Im thinking about buying a gimped awesome just because, but before I do it(and have the CB to do it) I was wondering if someone who owns the 9M could test that build and tell me how it perform.

I believe with some intense torso twisting it could be decent. Plus its a zombie, only downside is that it cannot use the arms.

Anyway here is the build; AWS-9M

I challenge anyone bored enough to do at a good bunch of games with it and post the result here.

Thanks!

This variant has served me damn well. I don't know why I'm sharing it, but here you go:

AWS-9M (MAD Vrt.)

[BlackIronTarkus]

Hoboshank, on 20 November 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

Just curious, why FF armor... it gives you less than a ton and a half, why not drop to a 350 std (which has the same intenal's as a 360) and add more heat syncs/armor instead?
Also, might be good to move some of the back armor to the front. The 9M's ability to turn quickly and at a wider angle means you can dictate which side is getting shot at more often than not, and if that side is your front, you can spend more time shooting things.

Well because It have the free crit slot but it needed more free tons without losing speed/torso twist so I free 2 tons(dropping some armor) to fit 2 more heatsinks.

I never bother with armor in smurfy unless its to free space. Waste of time, we all know that we must put a maximum of armor at the front.

Banky, on 20 November 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

This won't work well for you.  First time out on canyon or alpine you'll figure out why...  Without arm mounted weapons, the limited torso pitch angles will make you helpless when fighting targets above or below you.

Yes indeed I know, I stated that downside in the original post. But all zombies have that problem.

NRP, on 20 November 2013 - 05:16 PM, said:

You will be disappointed.

Seriously, just avoid the Awesomes all together. Get a Battlemaster or Victor instead.

Already have mastered victor, battlemaster are not available until january. Plus none of them can be zombies. You guys are missing the point of this build.

So yeah, so far nobody is able to test that build for me.

Edited by BlackIronTarkus, 21 November 2013 - 12:10 PM.

[Tahribator]

With this, you just don't have the firepower. You'll do better on a Blackjack with the same build to be honest.

[BlackIronTarkus]

For some reasons it wont let me edit, but indeed dropping to 350 is a better idea. Especialy since it only lose 2kph but free 3 tons.

[LordBraxton]

A 9M without an XL is not Awesome

[BP Raven]

LordBraxton, on 21 November 2013 - 12:13 PM, said:

A 9M without an XL is not Awesome

it is when you kill someone after they just took out your side torso, and then go on to kill several more people while having no arms...

[LordBraxton]

BP Raven, on 21 November 2013 - 12:35 PM, said:

it is when you kill someone after they just took out your side torso, and then go on to kill several more people while having no arms...

IDK

By the time any of my side torsos go Im usually orange internals everywhere, meaning 1 more shot to my CT and Im dead even with a standard engine...

I find it pretty easy to distribute damage in an awesome, you just cant get into any head2head shootouts with anyone... ever...

Edited by LordBraxton, 21 November 2013 - 12:40 PM.

[BlackIronTarkus]

LordBraxton, on 21 November 2013 - 12:13 PM, said:

A 9M without an XL is not Awesome

Nobody would use XL if they didnt free tons. Personnaly I would be all over the standard if they didnt weight so damn much.

[Johnny Reb]

Heh well here is my pre-ghost build:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...74c269a0e493d3c
Now would prolly try something like this:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...aa250862bf930ce