12 replies to this topic

[Hyperlynx]

Still haven't taken it out yet?

<checks patch notes>

Nope.

Oh well, back to hibernation until you clowns come to your senses and listen to your community...

[Durant Carlyle]

Good luck with that. They spent engineering time on it, so they're not going to remove it.

[Thorn Hallis]

Hyperlynx, on 21 November 2013 - 12:08 AM, said:

Oh well, back to hibernation until you clowns come to your senses and listen to your community...

Would you listen to someone calling you a "clown"? No? Thought so.

[Modo44]

3PV was nerfed to the point of becoming virtually useless, especially for new players. The aiming is difficult, the torso reacts slowly (higher mouse sensitivity for 3PV torso movement, please), and the lack of a minimap killed many noobies (it needs to remain available in 3PV, honestly).

[Tolkien]

Modo44, on 21 November 2013 - 01:19 AM, said:

3PV was nerfed to the point of becoming virtually useless, especially for new players. The aiming is difficult, the torso reacts slowly (higher mouse sensitivity for 3PV torso movement, please), and the lack of a minimap killed many noobies (it needs to remain available in 3PV, honestly).

Among those of us that were livid when the 1pv game we paid to be founders in shoehorned in a 3pv option there is a debate as to whether they made 3pv they way they made it to actually help new players (I would argue it really doesn't) or if they made it that way to justify later making it far better.

As you said, the aiming is kinda awkward, there's no map, and you noticed a slower torso rotation. So while you can peek over/around cover and stream intelligence to your team, you can't easily navigate unless you're a veteran who has the maps memorized.

So far from removing it, they'll probably claim 'great success' and then add the minimap back in to further 'broaden the appeal'.

As for me, I'm just going to hit the bottle to drown out all the 'feel' I'm getting from discussing this. Cheerio!

Edited by Tolkien, 21 November 2013 - 02:00 AM.

[Tooooonpie]

3rd person mode as it is right now is FINE - It allows new players to see their leg position so they know which way they are facing, and once they have got used to this they will realise its now time to move onto to the "big boy" 1pv

I disagree completly that 3rd person should have a mini map, 3rd person is good as an introduction to help new players see their legs and get used to where they are facing, and in general can be used to see over ledges and scenery to get a broader view.

Keep it how it is, simple.

[Roland]

Modo44, on 21 November 2013 - 01:19 AM, said:

3PV was nerfed to the point of becoming virtually useless, especially for new players. The aiming is difficult, the torso reacts slowly (higher mouse sensitivity for 3PV torso movement, please), and the lack of a minimap killed many noobies (it needs to remain available in 3PV, honestly).

Yes, the implementation is clearly one of the worst possible choices.

It's useful as an exploit for skilled players, while effectively crippling new players.

Well played.

[Bront]

3PV is also no longer in the 12 man queues, so they did partially remove it.

[rageagainstthedyingofthelight]

Hyperlynx, on 21 November 2013 - 12:08 AM, said:

Still haven't taken it out yet?

<checks patch notes>

Nope.

Oh well, back to hibernation until you clowns come to your senses and listen to your community...

Oh, look, nobody cares.

[Hexenhammer]

No death from above. It's 3pv's fault
Gauss rifles are broken. It's 3pv's fault.
Spider hit box broken. 3pv's fault



People that are mad want to be mad and its easy to blame 3pv for everything that's wrong with the game

And it's not PGI's fault we have 3PV, its Bush's fault.

Edited by Hexenhammer, 21 November 2013 - 04:16 PM.

[cSand]

Hyperlynx, on 21 November 2013 - 12:08 AM, said:

Still haven't taken it out yet?

<checks patch notes>

Nope.

Oh well, back to hibernation until you clowns come to your senses and listen to your community...

[Serapth]

3PV has a huge upside...

It illustrates when you are in ELO hell. You look around and 3 or 4 of your teammates are starting in 3POV... guess what, the matchmaker decided it's your turn to lose.

[Asmosis]

I'm surprised OP isnt complaining about when ECM is going to get removed as well. non-issues iz non-issues.