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[Roadbeer]

Soon

[Suko]

Roadbeer, on 22 November 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

Soon

™

Edited by ShadowVFX, 22 November 2013 - 12:30 PM.

[DrxAbstract]

Destined, on 22 November 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

My modsense was tingling.

Hemorrhoids will do that.

[Sandpit]

DrxAbstract, on 22 November 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

Hemorrhoids will do that.

DrxAbstract, on 22 November 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

Wait... did he say Heffay?

Heh (Yes I'm picking on Heffay today lol) He's been far too quiet the past few days

[Mudhutwarrior]

This has nothing to do with ECM. It has to do with an utter lack of team play. Let's stop kidding ourselves and listening to the premade zombies who dominate this forum. If its a 12 man team then let it be. Its never a 12 man team in other than comp matches its a 4 or 8 man premade with fillers.. Fillers are bad in most everything else fuel, food whatever. Its not good here.

Give us in game voice or split the solos from premades or something, Maybe try one patch cycle solo only so we can get some perspective on it. Of course you know who will be here next to argue against any of that. Same as it ever was.

[Victor Morson]

ECM is borderline ineffective right now entirely, so I don't know what you are complaining about. TAG, PPCs, BAP, etc. all break ECM effectively. Most LRM boats that are smart enough to carry their own TAG & BAP aren't ever more than slightly inconvenienced.

ECM really only impacts organized 12-mans where you might have packs of people using it, and that's about it. Even there it's only a small advantage.

Edited by Victor Morson, 22 November 2013 - 12:42 PM.

[Sandpit]

Mudhutwarrior, on 22 November 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

This has nothing to do with ECM. It has to do with an utter lack of team play. Let's stop kidding ourselves and listening to the premade zombies who dominate this forum. If its a 12 man team then let it be. Its never a 12 man team in other than comp matches its a 4 or 8 man premade with fillers.. Fillers are bad in most everything else fuel, food whatever. Its not good here.

Give us in game voice or split the solos from premades or something, Maybe try one patch cycle solo only so we can get some perspective on it. Of course you know who will be here next to argue against any of that. Same as it ever was.

omg..............
please for the love of baby jeebus let the modsense pick this one up.........

[Mudhutwarrior]

Sandpit, on 22 November 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

omg..............
please for the love of baby jeebus let the modsense pick this one up.........

They will and the player base will continue to shrink. Hope you get just what you ask for.

[Mercules]

Mudhutwarrior, on 22 November 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

Give us in game voice or split the solos from premades or something, Maybe try one patch cycle solo only so we can get some perspective on it. Of course you know who will be here next to argue against any of that. Same as it ever was.

Off topic!

[Roadbeer]

Mudhutwarrior, on 22 November 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

This has nothing to do with ECM. It has to do with an utter lack of team play. Let's stop kidding ourselves and listening to the premade zombies who dominate this forum. If its a 12 man team then let it be. Its never a 12 man team in other than comp matches its a 4 or 8 man premade with fillers.. Fillers are bad in most everything else fuel, food whatever. Its not good here.

Give us in game voice or split the solos from premades or something, Maybe try one patch cycle solo only so we can get some perspective on it. Of course you know who will be here next to argue against any of that. Same as it ever was.

[PropagandaWar]

Wolfways, on 22 November 2013 - 10:55 AM, said:

lol okay
If you choose not to use LRM's or Streaks then that's fine, but players shouldn't feel forced to not use certain weapons that they like because of one OP piece of equipment.

Next you guys will be asking to get rid of Meat Shields; Errr I mean other mechs, because they block incomming bullets and laZers.

Edited by PropagandaWar, 22 November 2013 - 12:51 PM.

[Mercules]

Mudhutwarrior, on 22 November 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

They will and the player base will continue to shrink. Hope you get just what you ask for.

Yes, and when I can no longer hang out with my friends in this game I will happily go to another and play that since I use online play as a virtual "coffee shop" so to speak since we no longer all live within walking distance of the coffee shop where we all hung out together but instead in some cases 9 hours away.

As I have stated in other threads my "evil pugstomper 4 man" has people in it in TRIAL mechs as well as others making statements like, "Wow, I haven't played this mech in so long I forgot how I used to do it... heck I don't remember how I grouped weapons." We are stomping all over your gameplay.

[Vodrin Thales]

Mudhutwarrior, on 22 November 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

This has nothing to do with ECM. It has to do with an utter lack of team play. Let's stop kidding ourselves and listening to the premade zombies who dominate this forum. If its a 12 man team then let it be. Its never a 12 man team in other than comp matches its a 4 or 8 man premade with fillers.. Fillers are bad in most everything else fuel, food whatever. Its not good here.

Give us in game voice or split the solos from premades or something, Maybe try one patch cycle solo only so we can get some perspective on it. Of course you know who will be here next to argue against any of that. Same as it ever was.

While I disagree with you on most topics, integrated voice comms and a more robust chat system would be a good thing

[Mercules]

Vodrin Thales, on 22 November 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

While I disagree with you on most topics, integrated voice comms and a more robust chat system would be a good thing

Agreed, but then what would he blame?

[DrxAbstract]

Mudhutwarrior, on 22 November 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

This has nothing to do with ECM. It has to do with an utter lack of team play. Let's stop kidding ourselves and listening to the premade zombies who dominate this forum. If its a 12 man team then let it be. Its never a 12 man team in other than comp matches its a 4 or 8 man premade with fillers.. Fillers are bad in most everything else fuel, food whatever. Its not good here.

Give us in game voice or split the solos from premades or something, Maybe try one patch cycle solo only so we can get some perspective on it. Of course you know who will be here next to argue against any of that. Same as it ever was.

Post about perceived issues with ECM is not about ECM...

Sweeping generalizations, hubris and stereotyping...

Biased, irrelevant opinion spewing...

Verdict: Guilty
Level of punishment: Maximum
I hereby sentence you to life imprisonment in your own mind, effective immediately.

[Mystere]

Mercules, on 22 November 2013 - 11:50 AM, said:

I swear the forum alerts the mods whenever a thread contains "LRMs", "ECM", "Boat", or "Pay2Win" in the title.

Well, it could be better if the same was done for "Elo", "matchmaker", "jump jets", and poptarts (or any derivatives of these).

[Mudhutwarrior]

Mercules, on 22 November 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

Agreed, but then what would he blame?

See you think I am blaming someone other than PGI and your wrong. I have no beef with anyone wanting to play with friends.
Sorry but it defies all logic to call it a team game where the metric is premades are cool and pugs are meat. Its not a 12 man team more often than not. Its one or two diverse groups with some other guys who cant or wont communicate by available methods. The system creates this division. Not anyone else past those who make a point of exploiting it.

[PropagandaWar]

Mystere, on 22 November 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Well, it could be better if the same was done for "Elo", "matchmaker", "jump jets", and poptarts (or any derivatives of these).

Don't forget Ice Cream Trucks. Dem Bazturdz

[Mercules]

Mudhutwarrior, on 22 November 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

Its not a 12 man team more often than not.

It's never a 12-man.

One of the solutions you propose alienates a large portion of the player base. The other is reasonable but probably has to wait till UI 2.0 and lobbies.

Patience is a virtue for a reason.

[DrxAbstract]

Mercules, on 22 November 2013 - 01:07 PM, said:

Patience is a virtue for a reason.

Patience? I thought it was water, earth, metal, wood and fire.