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[scJazz]

OK so many of you already know of my less than wonderful experience with Highlanders.

I have the 733C right now and while it isn't anywhere near as wonderful an experience, compared to my Catapult A1 or Shadow Hawk 2H, it has become nearly tolerable. I'll finish Basics with it in the next Match.

I know about the LRM Tube issues in the left torso.

Of the remainings 3 non-hero Highlanders which two should I get?

Can I get some configs? I checked out MechDesign from Smurfy and none of configs felt right to me.

Notes:
I'll try them if I must but I hate PPCs. I hated them during PPCOnline and still do.
I don't really want another LRMBoat (Assault LRMBoats are nearly as annoying to me as NARC )
I half remember there being some advice about the SRM Spread on Highlanders.

Please no Theory Crafting... only Master Highlander pilots should reply.

Thank you!

[Unnatural Growth]

What is your -C build?

I currently just have the HM and am grinding Cbills for two other variants. I just finished grinding for the XL330 which helps the speed and turning a little. I'm running LB10X, AC2, 3 ML's, 2 SRM4's, 3 JJ's, AMS, 544 armor pts and 14 DHS's.

I'm planning on the -C variant myself to get an AC20 in the arm. I think I'll start with this loadout and see how it goes...

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9d25c8357c584d0

It's just too bad I have to grind for ANOTHER XL, since the standard variants can only go up to a 325. I may have to work in some more AC20 ammo though...

[Roughneck45]

scJazz, on 24 November 2013 - 09:14 AM, said:

Notes:
I'll try them if I must but I hate PPCs. I hated them during PPCOnline and still do.
I don't really want another LRMBoat (Assault LRMBoats are nearly as annoying to me as NARC )
I half remember there being some advice about the SRM Spread on Highlanders.

Well, that is going to limit the options quite a bit, considering PPC's and ULTRA5's are the way to go.

HGN-733C

Seems like LL SRM6 brawler is what you are looking for.

Edited by Roughneck45, 24 November 2013 - 10:19 AM.

[scJazz]

Roughneck45, on 24 November 2013 - 10:15 AM, said:

Well, that is going to limit the options quite a bit, considering PPC's and ULTRA5's are the way to go.

HGN-733C

Seems like LL SRM6 brawler is what you are looking for.

Already have the 733C using the build Lordred suggested.
HGN-733C 2xUAC5, 2xLL, 2XASRM4, 2JJ, XL325
Well it isn't quite what he suggested but close enough. Yes, this thing works for me.

I'm not totally opposed to PPCs or even LRM boating. PPCs just aren't my first choice and I have 3 Catapults, 1 Shadowhawk, and 1 goofy Quickdraw when I need my LRM fix Still if you recommend it (or Koniving, Victor, Lordred, etc) I'll give it a go.

[kevin roshak]

I found the 732 to be pretty good

before the gauss nerf i did pretty well with this build
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4408127f3299cd6

maybe this if you dont feel comfortable with guass
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d24d6ebef9b7341

Edited by kevin roshak, 24 November 2013 - 10:54 AM.

[Bront]

Just looking over the hardpoints, there's not a huge difference between the 733 and 732. 732 has an extra torso energy slot (probably more useful), the 733 has an extra torso missile slot and probably makes a good LRM Boat (yeah, I know you don't want it).

The 733P is the all energy version. If you like "Moar Lazors", this is the mech for you in the Highlander chasis.

Personally, I like the Heavy Metal's hardpoints (but I like the Victor).

So, I'd aim for the 732 and 733P or HM if you don't want LRMs (unless you want to boat streaks on your HGN, then the 733 fits)

[scJazz]

BUMP!

Need moar cuz what I got so far is either

unspecific
or
the obvious advice for the 733C which I already have

[Koniving]

You're a missile lover. The 733 is an obvious choice. 4 launchers. Whether you chain fire 'em or spam 'em all, it's easy to pack on a 15, 10, and 2 5's for one instant salvo or in my case 15, 10, 10, 10. Or whatever you 2 you want + 2 streaks. Or however.

[Nick Makiaveli]

OldOrgandonor, on 24 November 2013 - 10:07 AM, said:

What is your -C build?

I currently just have the HM and am grinding Cbills for two other variants. I just finished grinding for the XL330 which helps the speed and turning a little. I'm running LB10X, AC2, 3 ML's, 2 SRM4's, 3 JJ's, AMS, 544 armor pts and 14 DHS's.


It's just too bad I have to grind for ANOTHER XL, since the standard variants can only go up to a 325. I may have to work in some more AC20 ammo though...

Was it really worth it to get 5 more engine rating? I would think giving up .01 kph or so would be worth a bazillion c-bills.....

[Unnatural Growth]

Lol,

Well the 330 is staying in the HM as it needs all the help it can get. And being a hero mech, I think (for me at least) it deserves the biggest engine I can cram in it. I may end up keeping one or both of my other Highlanders, we'll see. But for now, they can share one 325 until I decide. I'm playing with the -C now and the XL325. I prefer to build each mech out and not have to swap engines once I know I'm keeping it. It just makes it easier to jump in a mech and go. And I do like to jump between mechs quite a bit now, and not just play the same mech over and over.

[Satan n stuff]

OldOrgandonor, on 24 November 2013 - 10:07 AM, said:

What is your -C build?

I currently just have the HM and am grinding Cbills for two other variants. I just finished grinding for the XL330 which helps the speed and turning a little. I'm running LB10X, AC2, 3 ML's, 2 SRM4's, 3 JJ's, AMS, 544 armor pts and 14 DHS's.

I'm planning on the -C variant myself to get an AC20 in the arm. I think I'll start with this loadout and see how it goes...

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...9d25c8357c584d0

It's just too bad I have to grind for ANOTHER XL, since the standard variants can only go up to a 325. I may have to work in some more AC20 ammo though...

I'd go with SRMs instead of those LRM5s but aside from the underpowered LRM arsenal that looks like a solid build.

My HGN-733C

It's basically a slightly more well-rounded version of a typical meta build, but it's harder to use as a result. I designed this myself by the way, without checking out current meta builds.
The streaks may seem like a somewhat useless addition but they're good for finishing weakened mechs, keeping up DPS when you need to and shooting lights when you can't afford to use your main weapons. That being said it's unlikely that you'll ever use all the ammo for it.

Edited by Satan n stuff, 25 November 2013 - 09:47 AM.

[scJazz]

I've gotten a lot of advice about 733C builds. I don't need those I have one

Which other 2 Highlanders should I go for?

[TercieI]

scJazz, on 27 November 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

I've gotten a lot of advice about 733C builds. I don't need those I have one

Which other 2 Highlanders should I go for?

Funny you should ask this...

http://mwomercs.com/...-3-highlanders/

[Bront]

scJazz, on 27 November 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

I've gotten a lot of advice about 733C builds. I don't need those I have one

Which other 2 Highlanders should I go for?

Definately the 732, then it's a toss up between the 733 and 733P. I'd probably go 733. You could have fun running LRMs and AC2s.

[scJazz]

Terciel1976, on 27 November 2013 - 10:25 AM, said:

Funny you should ask this...

http://mwomercs.com/...-3-highlanders/

Yer post it is wonderful!

[TercieI]

scJazz, on 27 November 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

Yer post it is wonderful!

Why thanks ya. I'm thinking they're my next chassis after the Victors and I like to plan ahead.

I'm also coming around to your "jets or don't waste my time" POV. Jump brawling is just the most fun thing there is in MWO.

[Unnatural Growth]

Sorry Jazz for not being much help. I went 732, 733-C and HM. I didn't really want the -P. Don't really know why, maybe because of my Battlemasters (-G variant 7 energy+ballistic).

732- I went AC10, 3LL, 2 SRM4's. I've already got several mechs running LB10X's, so I wanted something different. Not sure I'm crazy about AC10 and can't mount an AC20. May just go UAC5 and more ammo. If you're not running an LB10X in anything yet, you should try one. Very potent at brawling range.

Not really sure what you're looking for in a mech, but I get the feeling you don't want LRM's? So go 732 and 733-P. Use SRM's in the missile tubes and energy weapons (in the -P) to suit your range. How about 2 LL's torso and 2 LPL's in the arm (or just plain old ML/MPL's)? Pack it with DHS's of course.

[scJazz]

OK so Highlander #2 is going to be the HGN-733 Blap Boat Code Name "Mjolnir"

I know, I know, I know SRMs are terribad, HSR sucks, and really all I should do is stick as many UAC5s as possible on the mech and pair them up with as many PPCs and heat sinks as I can get to fit.

I'm going to give this thing a shot and if it is still terribad turn it into a super terribad Assault LRMBoat

Note: Artemis isn't being used nor Endo-Steel. This is intentional because I want some wiggle room to switch the Meta on this Mech without having to pay to remove stuff

Edited by scJazz, 28 November 2013 - 07:59 AM.

[Bront]

scJazz, on 28 November 2013 - 07:57 AM, said:

OK so Highlander #2 is going to be the HGN-733 Blap Boat Code Name "Mjolnir"

I know, I know, I know SRMs are terribad, HSR sucks, and really all I should do is stick as many UAC5s as possible on the mech and pair them up with as many PPCs and heat sinks as I can get to fit.

I'd suggest mounting 3 SRM6s vs 4 SRM4s due to ghost heat.

Besides, you can't mount multiple AC5s.

THat said, if you don't swap out the SRMs, you can do this... I'm not sure if it's better, but it's definately a tough brawler.


Or, you can take out the XL and go this direction instead. Same heat efficiency, just a little slower and a ton less SRM ammo, but the standard 300 means you can lose a torso and keep plugging.

All of them sound fun.

(Also, SRMs can be quite fun, and I find they hit just fine against any of the redone hitbox mechs)

Edited by Bront, 28 November 2013 - 08:15 AM.

[scJazz]

Bront, on 28 November 2013 - 08:15 AM, said:

I'd suggest mounting 3 SRM6s vs 4 SRM4s due to ghost heat.

Besides, you can't mount multiple AC5s.

THat said, if you don't swap out the SRMs, you can do this... I'm not sure if it's better, but it's definately a tough brawler.


Or, you can take out the XL and go this direction instead. Same heat efficiency, just a little slower and a ton less SRM ammo, but the standard 300 means you can lose a torso and keep plugging.

All of them sound fun.

(Also, SRMs can be quite fun, and I find they hit just fine against any of the redone hitbox mechs)

Good stuff and I Smurfy'd both of those setups... they both need Endo-Steel basically. I don't want to push that button.

My earlier horror in the 732 bought and sold in under a day 4 months ago and my experience in the 733C tells me no matter what I do the ENGINE RATING must be 325! Otherwise all my muscle memory is tossed. These frickin things are slow enough I want to claw my eyes out already

I gotcha on the whole... SRM6 vs SRM4 thing but the penalty is only 0.9 heat (12 vs 12.90) so... yeah... whatever I am expecting it to play into my right hand bias as well. The extra spread on my left side compensating for my right hand circle tendency because I'm right handed.