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[MasterGoa]

You are making really hard for me to like you.

Today, I open the announcement section and also Paul's
updates with great expectation.

And they were actually met. Great posts and things look interesting.

Then I play.

Our lance spawns 2.4KM away from the 8 other players, they seem to spawn about 1KM
from themselves.

They start walking,

Then we see 6-8 red triangles on the map.
The first lance encounters the complete opposite team and
gets mowed down.

They the second lance gets mowed down.

Then out lance kills 5 and get... Mowed down.

The initial lance only had about 150 damage in the 4 of them.

Second match? Exactly the same. First lance, second lance and boom.

I do not know HOW you test this stuff, but you need to change your
testing systems because this is asinine.

I will take a break untill this is fixed.

Thank you and regards.

[Chemie]

LOL. I thought they were kidding by the new spawn points "really changing things" but maybe they meant it. Your dropship crashed and left you scattered all over the map. LOL Epic fail PGI

[AdamBaines]

Let the moaning and complaining and threats of not playing until YOUR issue is "fixed" commence.......

Edited by AdamBaines, 03 December 2013 - 03:38 PM.

[John MatriX82]

MasterGoa, on 03 December 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

You are making really hard for me to like you.

Today, I open the announcement section and also Paul's
updates with great expectation.

And they were actually met. Great posts and things look interesting.

Then I play.

Our lance spawns 2.4KM away from the 8 other players, they seem to spawn about 1KM
from themselves.

They start walking,

Then we see 6-8 red triangles on the map.
The first lance encounters the complete opposite team and
gets mowed down.

They the second lance gets mowed down.

Then out lance kills 5 and get... Mowed down.

The initial lance only had about 150 damage in the 4 of them.

Second match? Exactly the same. First lance, second lance and boom.

I do not know HOW you test this stuff, but you need to change your
testing systems because this is asinine.

I will take a break untill this is fixed.

Thank you and regards.

Please make a milestone out of this. Terra Therma and River City play in an awful mode, the first.. all happens what you said, the second, there's no tactical choice to go river/citadel or upper or lower. Tourmaline 1 lance is right in the teeth of the enemy.

Splitting the lances is an extremely bad idea, especially considering the matchmaker that fails @ balancing even classes. And I took the mid-tier MC package after those command chair posts, I'm already regretting to have done so as well.

[Rizzelbizzeg]

AdamBaines, on 03 December 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

Let the moaning and complaining continue.......

fixed

[AdamBaines]

Rizzelbizzeg, on 03 December 2013 - 03:38 PM, said:

fixed

Good catch!

[Noxcuse]

MasterGoa, on 03 December 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

You are making really hard for me to like you.

Today, I open the announcement section and also Paul's
updates with great expectation.

And they were actually met. Great posts and things look interesting.

Then I play.

Our lance spawns 2.4KM away from the 8 other players, they seem to spawn about 1KM
from themselves.

They start walking,

Then we see 6-8 red triangles on the map.
The first lance encounters the complete opposite team and
gets mowed down.

They the second lance gets mowed down.

Then out lance kills 5 and get... Mowed down.

The initial lance only had about 150 damage in the 4 of them.

Second match? Exactly the same. First lance, second lance and boom.

I do not know HOW you test this stuff, but you need to change your
testing systems because this is asinine.

I will take a break untill this is fixed.

Thank you and regards.

PGI dont test all his BS stuff...then put in new spawnpoints ..patch..and lie to us..nothing more!!!!...no brain ..no test...no money....thats the PGI way

[AdamBaines]

Noxcuse, on 03 December 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

PGI dont test all his BS stuff...then put in new spawnpoints ..patch..and lie to us..nothing more!!!!...no brain ..no test...no money....thats the PGI way

Even though I think your statement is waaaaaay in accurate as I do software QA for a living...I could not help but think of my favorite meme of all time.

Edited by AdamBaines, 03 December 2013 - 04:53 PM.

[Diego Angelus]

I guess they didn't like that people stick together too much so they try to split them up with spawnpoints witch is bad idea. They take on every problem in wrong way looking for quick fix and all that jazz in stead of taking it seriouslly and doing what it should be done. For start maybe give us better modes and design maps better and not mess it up with stupid spawn points.

Edited by Diego Angelus, 03 December 2013 - 04:59 PM.

[Fabe]

Haven't played yet but it sounds like they need to move these new spawn points closer together so Lances spawn together but still in formation with the rest of the company.

[pbiggz]

[MasterGoa]

AdamBaines, on 03 December 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:

Let the moaning and complaining and threats of not playing until YOUR issue is "fixed" commence.......

Yes, this is how a democracy works.

However, if I had only crossed a single player that likes the new
spawns, your post would have some validity. It has neither validity nor substance.

Just like posting a picture. Cut'n'paste is very easy...

Edited by MasterGoa, 03 December 2013 - 10:01 PM.

[Deathlike]

I don't think you guys thinking that it's just utter whining (which, in some cases it is) realize that there's an actual balance issue to be considered here.

If you happen to drop very close to each other, most likely a fight has started, and there will automatically be a disadvantage (I'm not sure who is at the disadvantage yet)... since the tonnages probably don't even match up evenly between the two closest groups (who will be able to spot each other in less than 15 seconds after the fight starts), the fight will be a tad more lopsided much earlier and more roflstomps would occur.

15 seconds isn't actually enough to regroup on some maps. That's the core issue.

The conceptual idea is good. The execution is left to be desired.

Edited by Deathlike, 03 December 2013 - 10:11 PM.

[Roadbeer]

I'm not sure. I mean, I had a great night with it. On several occasions, it allowed a lance/lance combat without all that blobbing around, and in some cases, when the team got together in a blob, we obviously overwhelmed the team that didn't.

So I guess what I'm saying, is that I'll have the Prime Rib.

[Reitrix]

Roadbeer, on 03 December 2013 - 10:31 PM, said:

I'm not sure. I mean, I had a great night with it. On several occasions, it allowed a lance/lance combat without all that blobbing around, and in some cases, when the team got together in a blob, we obviously overwhelmed the team that didn't.

So I guess what I'm saying, is that I'll have the Prime Rib.

Yeah, i enjoyed the 4 hours i played of it. Took out my ol Dragon and did some good damage with it. The Hitbox change was flat out amazing. It didn't sound like much in the Notes, but i feel almost as durable as i do in my Zomturions.

Hell, that last match after coring a Highlander and finding myself face to face with the entire rest of the enemy team, with lasers and missiles coming at me from every damn direction, i lost both arms, all the armor off my entire 'Mech and every internal remaining was bright red before they finally cored me after taking off my leg.

I didn't get that much mileage out of my Dragons before, That was just exhilarating. Didn't even care that i died, i distracted 9 enemy 'Mechs into jumping into the river to chase a disarmed Dragon. Felt good man.

[Will HellFire]

Im still wondering about the 12 man drops....

It seems like even if you take command and rearrange the lances, the spawn point is set to the default random lance configuration the game chose for you. That means my scout lance will be spread all over, mixed with my assault and my support lance.

Half my assaults might end up in advanced positions, far away from support. My scouts might end at the backyard close to base. This requires a reorganization period that the enemy can exploit and introduces a random element, as If I am lucky enough to have my fast movers deployed in forward position I can have them harass the enemy while they reorganize. Or maybe Im lucky enough to have my direct fire support Mechs spawn close to the middle with great lines of fire, and they can snipe the enemy while they try to rally together.

Im not saying its good or bad. I think though that once pre-launch lances can be configured, this will make much more sense; right now the "luck of the battle" just took even more importance.

Edited by Will HellFire, 04 December 2013 - 02:40 AM.

[CarpetShark]

Will HellFire, on 04 December 2013 - 02:38 AM, said:

It seems like even if you take command and rearrange the lances, the spawn point is set to the default random lance configuration the game chose for you. That means my scout lance will be spread all over, mixed with my assault and my support lance.

That's okay. There's no longer a team to scout for, or to support. You're lucky if you even have a lance.

[Ahasver]

Changes have been done that make bad team play even more obviouse!

Please do not change this. Maybe people will start actually playing together!

Please make the Lances drop together as in the Prematch sreen prepared, that is a Bug that needs to be fixed I think.

[Levon K]

AdamBaines, on 03 December 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

I could not help but think of my favorite meme of all time.
<snip>

DUDE.. epic Meme.

I'm a sofware developer, and yes, sometimes I have made changes with very little time for testing and held my breath while I "chucked it over the wall".

Sometimes it actually works. Unfortunately, the "feature police" are ready to bop PGI over the head for any modification made to MWO gameplay.

[SgtMaster]

they want us to complain about something other than not having new maps/ UI 2.0 and CW... good job PGI..!