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#921 Fetladral

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:28 PM

This may have killed the franchise not just this game.

#922 Sug

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:28 PM

View PostRyvucz, on 13 December 2013 - 09:24 PM, said:

Show me exactly what they promised you.


http://mwomercs.com/...nline-announced

Enjoy.





Edited by Sug, 13 December 2013 - 09:40 PM.


#923 Airborne Thunder

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:29 PM

View PostNehkrosis, on 13 December 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:

@Airborn Thunder
Sounds like your pretty down on em from the get go

Yeah, I am pretty bummed by this blatant cash grab when there are so many other promises that should be kept before they go adding non-Omni Clan mechs for $240.00 ($500.00 if you've got Oprah money).

#924 aelfkins

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:29 PM

$500 for a mech?
You've blown that monocle fiasco out of the water.

#925 Dihm

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:29 PM

View PostNoth, on 13 December 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:


I think it has more to do with you basically attacking the person rather than the arguments. The former does not bring anythiung constructive.

The fact that he is literally a "White Knight" here DOES have bearing on any comments he makes in regards to this thread. :)

#926 Fetladral

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:29 PM

View PostDeeBeeP, on 13 December 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

Here is how PGI gets back some goodwill out of this mess.

PGI, forget about selling us something that doesn't even exist yet and spend the next week polishing the **** out of the Timber Wolf Prime and release it ASAP so we can buy it. This is what you should have done in the first place if you needed money or not have announced anything at all!

That one is free.


Yeah the timber wolf has less armor than the thunderbolt.

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:30 PM

I am tired of giving this company money for things that should have been launched long ago. It is obvious to me now that this whole MWO thing is a cash grab on a fan base that was eager to hand over their wallets. No more, PGI/IGP/Whoever, I want to see the game I was promised with the founders package, and not another money grab before the money grab on the Phoenix pack is over. Maybe after they fold shop when the Canadian gov't stops giving them money someone with some morals and business sense will purchase the IP. /whine
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#928 Ryvucz

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:30 PM

View PostSug, on 13 December 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:



I do not see "we promise".

#929 Dymlos2003

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:30 PM

The whining in this thread is quite sad. Crying over 240 for 24 mechs... hmm ok.

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:31 PM

Dev's,

I have read all the post from your customer base. As stated I do have an over inflated income. I do feel that you raised the cost of your packages to high. I have a couple constructive ideas.

#1. Release the hardpoints now. This will enable the consumer to decide what Mech's they do want to own.

#2. Lower the price point just a hair to fall in line with your last package deal. By raising the price and only promising the product 6 months from now you are setting off alarms. I think what you forget here is that most your customers also purchase hero mech's and exclusive items all year long.

#3. Gold Mech's. I WOULD pay 500.00 for a gold mech....once I had hard points and what EXACT advantage makes this mech worth $500.00. I would also suggest 2 additives to this package to make your consumer more interested.
1. $500.00 would get you the one gold + the other variants all as HERO MECHS.
2. Should include 6 months of premium time
Both of these together AND / OR
3. The ability to IMMEDIATELY play this Gold mech until the rest are released.

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:32 PM

View PostNoesis, on 13 December 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:


Isn't money made from paper?


Not the Australian money, i dare you to tear an Aussie note like you could with the US Notes

#932 Nehkrosis

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:32 PM

@Athunder, but lets go back to the whole, "you dont need to do this" thing.
you dont need to buy it man.
remember they are coming for Cbills soon.

and agin, il say, they obvs have had people working on different aspects of this game for ages.
one is completed and ready to be presented to the community.
its here, now.

you dont get all at once.

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:32 PM

View PostDOMDOM, on 13 December 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

If this game had a healthy community providing a steady stream of revenue PGI wouldn't need to resort to blatant cash grabs like this. It speaks clearly to the state of this game: shambles.

PGI you need to fire that 3rd party company you brought in to help you maximize the monetisation of this game because they are steering the ship into the shallows. You don't need to be a marketing genius to figure out your pricing models are all completely backwards. The reason you aren't selling enough in day to day operations is because EVERYTHING, from mechs to paint to cockpit items, is all far too expensive.

Consumers need to feel value for their money if you want them to feel good about spending it. There is NOTHING about MWO that says value for money. You have an unfinished game that's fast becoming little more than a mech store. Get it together, or **** off already and shut your doors.


There is no problem with cash flow in this game.

Not a one.

They received FIVE MILLION DOLLARS from the Founders Program : http://www.joystiq.c...unders-program/

That's 5,000,000 dollars.

To put that into perspective - the entire development and marketing budget of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - a game which began development in 2006 and considerable resources are still being devoted to it... was 68 million dollars.

Do you have any idea how many Hero mechs I see in games? Probably a good 5-10% of the mechs out there - at $15 a pop, easily - that is probably coming close to another Founders program in revenue. Then look at how many Overlord badges there are compared to the Founders badges. There's at least another Founders Program worth of revenue from Phoenix.

Now figure all of the mech bay purchases, the custom paints, etc - and the fact that MW:Tactics is still having its own Founders program.

There is absolutely no revenue shortage for this game. None at all.

This is purely a cash-grab and is abusive to this community - which has spent far more than the standard retail game (per capita) on a game that hardly has any kind of content to it at all and is easily able to push 30% of Skyrim's budget - and you can lose yourself in that game.

Edited by Aim64C, 13 December 2013 - 09:33 PM.


#934 Orgasmo

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:32 PM

Paying customers cannot complain? Okay.

#935 Dymlos2003

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:33 PM

View PostSicksGunz, on 13 December 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

**** PGI. Selling Clan BS before there is even a community warfare component to the game? This is complete and utter ****.


You mean hyping the clan invasion? Yeah THEY'RE EVIL FOR HYPING UP NEW CONTENT HOW DARE THEY!!!!!!!

#936 Fetladral

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:34 PM

GUYS ONLY 2 MORE PAGES TILL WE GET TO 50 PAGES!

#937 SpajN

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:34 PM

This game has become a joke. 80 dollars for overlord was pushing it.. now its like 90 dollars for a light mech? 240 for the assault???? 500 dollars for the hero variant??????????? hahahaha

#938 Ryvucz

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:34 PM

View PostOrgasmo, on 13 December 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

Paying customers cannot complain? Okay.


From the looks of it, they're not paying. :)

So no. :D

#939 Kanatta Jing

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:35 PM

Yes, releasing the Clan mechs for sale before releasing any information on them is having a predictable effect of generating high levels of word of mouth.

I imagine that even know MWO players are spreading the word of the exciting and outrageous act across every dark hole in the internet where mech enthusiasts gather.

#940 GRiPSViGiL

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:35 PM

I just want more info on what my money would get me. Especially these Gold packages.





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