Caswallon, on 20 December 2013 - 12:33 AM, said:
Ah I see you missed the reasoned critique part of my quote. Your right in this post I did not specify you had to stay within the published rules. You are correct unless we state that at every opportunity some folks will just take the pisss
Please accept that I meant (as I stated in a similar post elsewhere) You can play your way Within the current rule-set. Hiding is NOT illegal unless you have not contributed to the match so go do it if it seems good to you - though I wish you wouldn't personally
jebushunter, on 19 December 2013 - 08:45 PM, said:
so i can team kill you right?, so i can sync drop and give away info to buddys? because it makies it funner for me? lol the free market system cannot be applied to games.... games are just a set of rules, even mechs and maps are rules, and can be broken by hacking
making a way is making a rule, just one that harder to break, aka like my idea for the team that loss in TDM any one alive on it gets auto killed at clock end, there by reducing any hope of k/d ratio hiding, does not have a big impact on the game mode
Caswallon, on 20 December 2013 - 07:21 AM, said:
Jeb we are siteing the same rule to prove our own point. I did not and do not want to get into a strop about this. I thought when I said "unless you have not contributed to the match" I had made it clear that you had to make an effort BEFORE trying to hide ambush (something)
Do we at least agree in principle that folks should try and play a game mode to the best of their ability and in the rare case of a non griefing attempt to ambush someone on the way out a clearer statement on what was Grief hiding and what is legit ambushing would be usful?
no one was ever talking about ambush, where did we say we should stop ambushing and ambushing is against the rules
i ambush people i am that dam er ppc spider and the end of the game ending poor weak mechs lifes, i drop with a 4 man and we ambush people all the time "hiding before dealing any damage" get them one by one as they go to cap.=not grief hiding aka ambush
player with a team and you start losing so you run off and hide to protect your k/d=grief hiding and against the rules
playing with a team and you start losing so you disco same as above^^ only not protecting k/d
its all non-participation if you start playing "aka= participating then go off with out of coming back or ambushing or playing the rest of the game and hide for the rest of the game "aka NOT PARTICIPATING"
here maybe a " clearer statement" on what non-participating is by defintion "
[color="#000000"]withdrawing from the activities of a group." sounds like hiding to preserve k/d, while ambushing is waiting to play, hiding is waiting NOT to play[/color]
http://www.thefreedi...onparticipation
(Non-Participants) Any individual within the immediate physical area of the disturbance, but not engaged verbally or physically in it.
https://www.google.c...on%20definition
your second statement
" I said "unless you have not contributed to the match" I had made it clear that you had to make an effort BEFORE trying to hide ambush (something)" does not match your first statement, as
ambush (something) never appears in the first statement and i really hope you don't intend for me to believe that you thought this whole time i was referring to ambushing?
i feel like this is the same type of "debate" with my friend when he was attempting to explain how some things arnt crime, but he used joyridding as an example, which is a bad one because it is a crime..but he stuck with it, then with the flawed reasoning went on state that misdemeanors are not crimes in the laws eyes...they are but no matter what evidence
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Misdemeanor, and was useing all types of off topic stuff "like ambush/sometimes your not tried for misdemeanors " and rational for it to make sense to him.
yes once again sat scan bad idea but auto death at end would not effect my ambushing style or my teams
and your idea of increase reward to find shut down mechs..... what would that change? like ending that D's life isnt reward, like we all stopped looking for him? even in a light i can never find some one on a huge map that ran off and hide, ?
do you play the game? have you even been looking for these hiders? i understand you think this is a "they are not playing how i want them to wawawawa" issue, but its not its that these people are hurting their teams, and all other player in game, playing against the spirit of the game , every damage point they dont score is hurting every team mate and every point they dont get hit is one less point for a team that deserved that those points
sorry about the overall d-bag **** ant feel of this post, its so late for me its early and now late again 1pm no sleep, im just tired of hearing that a cup is not a cup because it has a handle......................, and that the sky isnt the sky because their is birds in it................, that misdemeanors are not crimes because you could choose not to get caught therefor no court......k/d that k/d ratio hiding is participating because people ambush people yes its true, that cup has a handle, the sky has birds in it and people do use ambush tactics, but it has no bearing k/d ratio hiding and grief hiding
not sure about the defintion of cup? that might be a mug lol
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. Sure waiting 10 minutes in the worst case, if you are still alive in a legged Atlas^^.
