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[Specops12]

PGI has said in the state of the inner sphere post that they are accepting constructive criticism on the clan pack and how it is sold. I personally think that the packages should be broken into weight class, and sold at the appropriate price (based on the mc scale generally used). This would allow players to purchase mechs based on what weight classes they play rather than end up with mechs they don't want, and will never play. Even make these packages a slightly worse value than the large $240 package, and keep the $240 package for those wanting all of the mechs. I guarantee that smaller packages will encourage more sales, and make players infinitely more happy.

[Axeman1]

Most people just want a mad cat.

PGI KNOWS this.

Also bummed that we got the kit fox instead of the mist lynx.

Edited by Axeman1, 17 December 2013 - 11:59 AM.

[Enzane]

A) I want all the mechs.
B ) I don't have $240 effing dollars.
C) I don't want Digitally signed bs.
D) I don't need more Game time.
E) Who gives a carp about more useless in game content (Warhorns)

If they want to listen to their customers. Then stop over charging us for mechs.

A single mech shouldn't cost $10. a Mech should cost somewhere around $2 to $3.
It's called MICRO transactions, not MACRO.

Edited by Enzane, 17 December 2013 - 12:01 PM.

[Axeman1]

Enzane, on 17 December 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

A) I want all the mechs.
B ) I don't have $240 effing dollars.
C) I don't want Digitally signed bs.
D) I don't need more Game time.
E) Who gives a carp about more useless in game content (Warhorns)

If they want to listen to their customers. Then stop over charging us for mechs.

A single mech shouldn't cost $10. a Mech should cost somewhere around $2 to $3.
It's called MICRO transactions, not MACRO.

I don't know about $2 or $3 but I mean even League of Legends charges maximum of $30 for their unique champion skins...wish that were the maximum in this game however due to people already paying ridiculous sums for virtual content, they have driven prices to where they are now.

Edited by Axeman1, 17 December 2013 - 12:05 PM.

[Enzane]

I would gladly pay somewhere around $100, for all 8 + Variants.

That's about $4.15.

Hell lets make it $6 a mech and call it even. Give me all those mechs for a total of $140.

I'd even do that. but $240!?

Highway robbery man.

[LauLiao]

Enzane, on 17 December 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

I would gladly pay somewhere around $100, for all 8 + Variants.

That's about $4.15.

Hell lets make it $6 a mech and call it even. Give me all those mechs for a total of $140.

I'd even do that. but $240!?

Highway robbery man.

I'd even go to like $160 which would be in line with the Phoenix pricing. I just don't get the justification. They keep telling us that Clan mechs won't be OP against IS mech, then charge more for them because they're better! WTF?

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However if we assume the extra rewards are equivalent to the Phoenix packages it really comes down to the `Mechs. In each case you get the two free variants to go along with the Prime variants making an overlord package $80 or $20 per prime variant. With the Clan packages you are paying what equates to $30 per prime variant. But remember our pricing of MC in MWO has a relationship between MC and CB costs. Clan Technology is significantly more expensive, and is reflected in the package pricing.

Edited by LauLiao, 17 December 2013 - 12:24 PM.

[Enzane]

here's an Idea. Strip the mechs.

Sell us just the chassis.

Let us outfit them ourselves. Bring the damn prices DOWN.

[Veranova]

100% agree with what's said here.

[Timuroslav]

You're getting the Double the Mechs for double the Price.
I don't understand the problem
If anything they're better than their Innersphere Counter parts.
It's more of a Clan Double Starter package because you're getting double Mechs per weight class WITH their Variants.

If PGI should do anything, they should split it into Packet A and Packet B
Where Packet A has the Dire Wolf and all the mechs underneath it and Packet B has the War Hawk, Timberwolf, Ryoken, and Puma for the price of 120$ per packet.

paying $120 for 24 mechs that are stronger than IS mechs is like trying to stick it to PGI
I will say that the additional content should be offered starting with the Nova. It's also like Negotiating with the Bar Tender about the whiskey price.

Whose the really greedy one? The people offering double stuff for double price or the PGI Bashers who want half price for better mechs.

No they won't let you pick and choose mechs.
Damn, they've proved me wrong XD lulz

Edited by Timuroslav, 28 December 2013 - 06:01 PM.

[Mildiane]

I support the idea completely, I rarely play light and I never play medium... I don't want 24 mechs, just the heavies and assaults!

If they were in their own pack, I would buy it immediatly, but I won't spend 240$... It would be like buying a new car because I need new tires :/

[TercieI]

Timuroslav, on 17 December 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:

You're getting the Double the Mechs for double the Price.
I don't understand the problem

Actually, you're getting double (24 vs. 12) the mechs for triple ($240 vs. $80) the price if you compare to just Overlord or 33% more mechs (24 vs. 18) for 118% ($240 vs. $110) more cost if you compare to Overlord+Sabre.

Edited by Terciel1976, 17 December 2013 - 05:51 PM.

[Kanatta Jing]

Splitting the Clan Pack at this point would be a kick in the teeth of all the people who just spent 210$ on a Timberwolf.

Edit: If there is anyone that PGI doesn't want to kick the teeth of, it is those people.

Edited by Kanatta Jing, 17 December 2013 - 06:04 PM.

[Vanguard836]

Would most likely make more customers from split packs than the single big one.
Even single mechs would likely sell more. Just tweak the bonuses of the bundles.

The sooner this could be done, the less possible refunds to process and possible increase in sales.

Edited by Vanguard836, 17 December 2013 - 08:35 PM.

[Specops12]

I totally agree Vanguard

[Buso Senshi Zelazny]

Timuroslav, on 17 December 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:

You're getting the Double the Mechs for double the Price.
I don't understand the problem
If anything they're better than their Innersphere Counter parts.
It's more of a Clan Double Starter package because you're getting double Mechs per weight class WITH their Variants.

If PGI should do anything, they should split it into Packet A and Packet B
Where Packet A has the Dire Wolf and all the mechs underneath it and Packet B has the War Hawk, Timberwolf, Ryoken, and Puma for the price of 120$ per packet.

I was going to suggest the exact same thing.

Edited by Buso Senshi Zelazny, 18 December 2013 - 07:35 AM.

[Ahasver]

Enzane, on 17 December 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

A single mech shouldn't cost $10. a Mech should cost somewhere around $2 to $3.
It's called MICRO transactions, not MACRO.

Oh well, I think this is really nice but too low.
I like to compare to my metal miniatures which I needed for the Board game. Those where around 10€.
The Difference is that those still look good in my shelf and Digital content is basically gone as soon as I stop playing.

BUT a night out with friends will cost you more than 2-10$ and I feel this is the price we should compare to. How much is a night of Bowling or Cinema? Well thats what you spend for something that is gone after use, so you actually get MORE Value from a digital Mech.

So all of this said, I think 5-40$ is about the price ppl will pay for digital Content without thinking about it much. What we are missi9ng in this game is the Low End. There should be much more to buy below 10$ and even at 1$ (like paint) ... but there isn't instead we see Mechs at prices where I think more often than not .... "I want it ... Oh well rather NOT at this price"

[Sparkledragon]

Thanks for bringing this up, I was about to make a similar topic myself...

On the matter at hand:

I'm highly disappointed that they won't offer packs along the lines of the founder packs. Back then I could chose exactly what I wanted, for how much money.

I want a timber wolf, maybe an adder, too. But ONLY those. Not 4 variants each, no premium time, no artwork, no warhorns, no cockpit items, no titles... How would you feel if you went to a bike store and get told that the bike you want is only purchasable if you buy 20 wheelchairs along with it?

I want the Mechs because I like their looks, not because they're clanners, not because they're 'OP' in BT. I just love the designs, simple as that.

Please, PGI, give us the options to pick and chose the content we want like you did before. I won't spend 240$ on a pack of digital goods when 80% of it's content is completely useless to me. :/

[Pendraco]

I like the way they have it setup, I can give them $30 - $60 a month with plenty of time to get to the $240 pack. It is a lot of money, but if your spending money on the game anyway these packs are a great value.

[Ngamok]

Enzane, on 17 December 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

A) I want all the mechs.
B ) I don't have $240 effing dollars.
C) I don't want Digitally signed bs.
D) I don't need more Game time.
E) Who gives a carp about more useless in game content (Warhorns)

If they want to listen to their customers. Then stop over charging us for mechs.

A single mech shouldn't cost $10. a Mech should cost somewhere around $2 to $3.
It's called MICRO transactions, not MACRO.

Micro transactions are for vanity stuff, not for game content. Why would they charge 2-3 bucks for something you'll play for countless hours.

Terciel1976, on 17 December 2013 - 05:50 PM, said:

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Actually, you're getting double (24 vs. 12) the mechs for triple ($240 vs. $80) the price if you compare to just Overlord or 33% more mechs (24 vs. 18) for 118% ($240 vs. $110) more cost if you compare to Overlord+Sabre.

It's because you are saving time. The clan mechs cost 3x the C-Bills to buy. I don't see the problem.

Kanatta Jing, on 17 December 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

Splitting the Clan Pack at this point would be a kick in the teeth of all the people who just spent 210$ on a Timberwolf.

Edit: If there is anyone that PGI doesn't want to kick the teeth of, it is those people.

They can refund the people who spent $210. What's the big deal. They can have them re buy the package they want.

I would like it if they split the packages too. I would get the Masakari Package as well for the Ryoken, Timber Wolf, and Masakari. Then I would buy the Uller and Thor with C-Bills.

I would also like it if they let you choose which L/M/H/A you wanted for $120. I would do the Uller / Ryoken / Thor / Masakari (2 from each side).

[Odins Fist]

Specops12, on 17 December 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

PGI has said in the state of the inner sphere post that they are accepting constructive criticism on the clan pack and how it is sold.

CORRECTION: PGI has been getting their keysters pounded in on these forums over the clan pack and how it is sold/priced.

Saying they are accepting constructive criticism on the clan pack and how it is sold, is like a person being sexually assaulted in prison saying that they "are accepting HUGS from behind in the shower as a good will gesture to veteran inmates".

Edited by Odins Fist, 18 December 2013 - 08:35 AM.