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[Sir Roland MXIII]

I was honestly surprised to find MW:O not on the list of "Top Ten Worst Reviewed of 2013" since technically speaking this alpha-state game was "released" this year, making it eligible. That is, until I read the summary of the review for Infestation: Survivor Stories, formerly known as War Z.

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The War Z misses the mark at almost everything it does. It’s rife with bugs and other tech issues, and the large amount of guns has turned it into a place where meaningful player interactions rarely occur. It needs a lot of work to become something that feels like a proper release, and is in dire need of the slew of promised features to make it more than rarely entertaining. This is a prime example of a game that oversells and underdelivers.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it? As far as I can see there's no reason to deny that MechWarrior: Online ties with I:SS for it's "3.0 / 10" score and #4 position of "Worst Reviewed Games of 2013".

[Heffay]

Sweet!... MWO isn't that bad after all!

[Lord Perversor]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 21 December 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

I was honestly surprised to find MW:O not on the list of "Top Ten Worst Reviewed of 2013" since technically speaking this alpha-state game was "released" this year, making it eligible. That is, until I read the summary of the review for Infestation: Survivor Stories, formerly known as War Z.



Sounds familiar, doesn't it? As far as I can see there's no reason to deny that MechWarrior: Online ties with I:SS for it's "3.0 / 10" score and #4 position of "Worst Reviewed Games of 2013".

Wow are we angry aren't we?

While i can agree you MW:O didn't bring everything it promised, the core of it works as it should.

Can you buy Battlemechs and equip them as you wish? yes
Can you get into matches with your mechs and fight? yes
Can you shoot reliabily to almost all your enemies and without isues? Yes (despite some side effects with some lights and HSR wich is in constant work and tunning)

It's a Bug ridden game where you can't hardly play? nope (albeit some ppl may suffer some bugs from time to time)
Are there any issue with the weapons/modules ingame that negates a different playstyle than the full out war? nope it's meant as a tactical full out war.

You can claim there are non delivered features like CW, (let's be serious it's the only feature gameplay wise as Dx11,UI 2.0 are mostly visual ones) but the basic of the game wich is a Mechs vs Mechs battles with CW as a beyond Metagame side to add a bigger depth into the game.

And despite all issues let's do a basic comparation.

Wich is the difference between basic gameplay in World of tanks, Warthunder or League of Legends compared to MW:O?
None all of them work under the premise log in get your vehicle/hero and play several matches vs other players to lvl up or get more vehicles/heroes.

Edited by Lord Perversor, 21 December 2013 - 04:49 PM.

[Thorn Hallis]

They probably reviewed the game for what it is right now and not what people hoped or thought or dreamed it would be.

[That Guy]

I was going to make a long post about how your perspective was very... skewed, but lord pervasor beat me to it. and probably did a much better job.

if MWO the the worst game you have played all year you are amazingly lucky. count your lucky stars buddy

[Sir Roland MXIII]

Lord Perversor, on 21 December 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Wow are we angry aren't we?

While i can agree you MW:O didn't bring everything it promised, the core of it works as it should.

Can you buy Battlemechs and equip them as you wish? yes
Can you get into matches with your mechs and fight? yes
Can you shoot reliabily to almost all your enemies and without isues? Yes (despite some side effects with some lights and HSR wich is in constant work and tunning)

It's a Bug ridden game where you can't hardly play? nope (albeit some ppl may suffer some bugs from time to time)
Are there any issue with the weapons/modules ingame that negates a different playstyle than the full out war? nope it's meant as a tactical full out war.

You can claim there are non delivered features like CW, (let's be serious it's the only feature gameplay wise as Dx11,UI 2.0 are mostly visual ones) but the basic of the game wich is a Mechs vs Mechs battles with CW as a beyond Metagame side to add a bigger depth into the game.

And despite all issues let's do a basic comparation.

Wich is the difference between basic gameplay in World of tanks, Warthunder or League of Legends compared to MW:O?
None all of them work under the premise log in get your vehicle/hero and play several matches vs other players to lvl up or get more vehicles/heroes.

Angry? Hardly. But at least I'm not complacent, nor am I settling for at-best half of a game, PGI wants more of you and less of me for that very reason.

Thorn Hallis, on 21 December 2013 - 04:48 PM, said:

They probably reviewed the game for what it is right now and not what people hoped or thought or dreamed it would be PGI said it would be on release.

Fixed that for you. And even if they did I doubt the game managed more than 5.0 at best. I'll look into that later.

EDIT Well I was wrong, 7.3. Although as I guessed the article completely skirts around all the issues that would lower the score - IE PGI's claims of future release that turned out to be utter lies - so I could point out that this is a case of rosy-tinted-glasses, but really, with all the white knights riding to PGI's rescue here that'd fall on deaf ears.

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 21 December 2013 - 05:25 PM.

[Lord Perversor]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 21 December 2013 - 04:58 PM, said:

Angry? Hardly. But at least I'm not complacent, nor am I settling for at-best half of a game, PGI wants more of you and less of me for that very reason.

Good for you if you aren't complacent, that's a good thing and people like you is good for the game to point out the errors and flaws and try to get some *perception* to devs sometimes.

BUT...
I'm not saying MW:O it's a full game or a well done one, all i'm saying it's that the basic core of it (mechs fitting and fights against other players) works mostly in a good shape and aside some small exceptions there is no gamebreaking bugs that makes it unplayable.
Balanced? Hell no that's a huge task games like WoT or LoL as i pointed before are older more famous and quite well know to broader audiences yet they still have Balance issues, but that's a neverending tweaking along this kinda games life.

And about PGI asking more money to people like me, won't change much at all i do not give them money for future promises (only did it for founder pack) if i ever bought any MC or Mech pack, or Hero was because i thought it's something worthwhile not only for the time i enjoyed playing the game but for the upcoming time i may still enjoying it (aside the future features incoming)

[Sir Roland MXIII]

Lord Perversor, on 21 December 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

Good for you if you aren't complacent, that's a good thing and people like you is good for the game to point out the errors and flaws and try to get some *perception* to devs sometimes.

BUT...
I'm not saying MW:O it's a full game or a well done one, all i'm saying it's that the basic core of it (mechs fitting and fights against other players) works mostly in a good shape and aside some small exceptions there is no gamebreaking bugs that makes it unplayable.
Balanced? Hell no that's a huge task games like WoT or LoL as i pointed before are older more famous and quite well know to broader audiences yet they still have Balance issues, but that's a neverending tweaking along this kinda games life.

And about PGI asking more money to people like me, won't change much at all i do not give them money for future promises (only did it for founder pack) if i ever bought any MC or Mech pack, or Hero was because i thought it's something worthwhile not only for the time i enjoyed playing the game but for the upcoming time i may still enjoying it (aside the future features incoming)

Fair enough. I would also point out that, while I do agree with Russ that this game is minimally viable, I do NOT agree that this is in any way acceptable. As you can tell I've paid in to this latest MW more than once, but I will not do so again until they start flying at least a little straight. I don't see how people (not you) think this is so much for me to ask.

[Damocles69]

Heffay, on 21 December 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

Sweet!... MWO isn't that bad after all!

Always good to have really really really low expectations.

Hurray for mediocrity!!!!!!

[Heffay]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 21 December 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

Fair enough. I would also point out that, while I do agree with Russ that this game is minimally viable, I do NOT agree that this is in any way acceptable. As you can tell I've paid in to this latest MW more than once, but I will not do so again until they start flying at least a little straight. I don't see how people (not you) think this is so much for me to ask.

It's probably a good thing you aren't putting more money into the game. I'd hate for you to be disappointed.

Now, what do they currently have for sale? I need to pimp out my cockpit a bit more.

[Chip Danger]

Heffay, on 21 December 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

It's probably a good thing you aren't putting more money into the game. I'd hate for you to be disappointed.

Now, what do they currently have for sale? I need to pimp out my cockpit a bit more.

Wow now the white knights are even just trolling the boards. A sign of things to come? could be.

[ShadowDarter]

Heffay, on 21 December 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

It's probably a good thing you aren't putting more money into the game. I'd hate for you to be disappointed.

Now, what do they currently have for sale? I need to pimp out my cockpit a bit more.

I recommend the hulu elf...

[Sephlock]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 21 December 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

I was honestly surprised to find MW:O not on the list of "Top Ten Worst Reviewed of 2013" since technically speaking this alpha-state game was "released" this year, making it eligible. That is, until I read the summary of the review for Infestation: Survivor Stories, formerly known as War Z.



Sounds familiar, doesn't it? As far as I can see there's no reason to deny that MechWarrior: Online ties with I:SS for it's "3.0 / 10" score and #4 position of "Worst Reviewed Games of 2013".

MechWarrior was in the top 50 games of all time during beta, though.

[Black Ivan]

MWO did not get the bad and harsh critics it deserves, regretably.

As a founder I regret having put faith and money into PGI. They delivered very little alzthough they did big promises.
I still wonder where all the money the made through weekly sales and the packages went. They should swim in money and have enough to put out content at a steady pace, but little comes out at all.

[C E Dwyer]

Sephlock, on 22 December 2013 - 12:38 AM, said:

MechWarrior was in the top 50 games of all time during beta, though.

Yes but IGN also raved about the MMO set in Istaria, where you could be a player Dragon.

Good or Bad experience has told me IGN and PC Gamer reviews are a complete waste of time, though good ones are craved by the industry as they are widely read.

PC gamer even gave rave reviews to Rome2 so ocme on

[Sandpit]

So we're now going to start a thread on a review of another game because it got a crappy review and post it on this game's forum as a "hey look here, see? that games sucks. I'm going to use it to say how I think this game sucks"

Just when you thought this community couldn't get any worse............

[Heffay]

Sandpit, on 22 December 2013 - 02:27 AM, said:

Just when you thought this community couldn't get any worse............

Strangely enough, that thought has never crossed my mind when it's come to this community.

[Alex Warden]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 21 December 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

I was honestly surprised to find MW:O not on the list of "Top Ten Worst Reviewed of 2013" since technically speaking this alpha-state game was "released" this year, making it eligible. That is, until I read the summary of the review for Infestation: Survivor Stories, formerly known as War Z.



Sounds familiar, doesn't it? As far as I can see there's no reason to deny that MechWarrior: Online ties with I:SS for it's "3.0 / 10" score and #4 position of "Worst Reviewed Games of 2013".

compared to War Z ,MWO is in a pretty well polished state... i would be surprised to find MWO mentioned among "worst rated games", considering how much trash has been released lately...

maybe MWO lacks some content, but what is there is good enough to be worth some money here and there...

the War Z "Release Client" was such a disastrous pre-alpha bugcollection, i couldn´t even put that in words even if it was worth the time to try ...

Edited by Alex Warden, 22 December 2013 - 09:14 AM.

[Sandpit]

I gave MWO a 2 on metacritic in a very detailed review. Why?

Because when I looked and rated all of the different areas of the game (art, graphics, game play, content, music, sound, story, etc.) that's what I felt it deserved. (although the review was pre-music so I should probably adjust the score a bit but not much because the music is..... uhm well it's music lol)

This game is fun. The combat engine is a pretty well balanced shooter and the mechs feel like mechs. It's great. The art is great. The graphics are decent. That's pretty much where it ends though. Beyond stomp and shoot, while enjoyable, gets tedious and repetitive. There's no story, there's nothing to fight for other than the next mech purchase (which some players are at the point where there are no more mechs they even want to purchase). There's tons of broken(narc and SRMs come to mind), "placeholder", and non existent features. We've had no real progression in content in nearly two years.

If and when we start getting some actual content that will take that section's 0 to a higher score for me because there will actually be something to add in there. Zero content = a zero rating in that area (which is a huge one when it comes to an MMO)

[Kabum]

The Game does not deserve to be in the worst of anything.
They did promise things and they promised them in a time frame: Yes. Did they deliver: No. But the game is not in bad shape. Simply it could be improved and that improvement will make a lot of loyal paying costumers.
We, as costumers, want more: for sure.
Did I played more {Scrap} games this yea?r: Yes, most of them.
Just thing the hours you put in Mechwarrior online and the ones you put in other games. now tell me... is sooooo bad? for me the answer is no. Sure it could be better and make me buy more things. But the game is not bad.