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[Myomes]

Op, you're seeing what competitiveness. childishness, and the ability to cry to some greater power about unfairness can do to people's minds.

Do it some more, so that the people that take those reports can laugh in their face.

[Nick Makiaveli]

Bagheera, on 23 December 2013 - 12:43 PM, said:

You didn't intentionally overheat to kill yourself, you intentionally overheated to kill someone else. Completely different.

QFT. (and Great Justice!!)

[NextGame]

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So I just got out of the game in which I died from overheating. I was in my Battlemaster 1D with my 4 Large Lasers and despite chain fire and lots of heat sinks I was running really hot. My lance was defending one of the bases on Conquest and we were going down one at a time. My lance manages to kill 3 of the 6 attackers before it's down to just me. My Center torso is orange, left torso was red and the Victor in front of me lost all his CT armor but my heat was at 90%. I made the decision to hit override, turn off chain fire and alpha strike the dude. I got him but died from overheating.
Dude was totally ticked off, he threatens to report me for intentionally overheating to kill myself. I admit I definitely died on purpose, but it's not like I was at the starting drop point and did it to kill myself to go to the next match. I was trying to kill the dude to give my teammates an edge to victory.
So I ask? Is that a dishonorable tactic or was it the honorable and right thing to do?

Personally I'd be flattered that you pushed yourself so hard to take me out.

[Hollow Earth]

"So this is the power of the override. no bad, not bad at all."

But seriously though, i'd say that a M.A.D. attack is fair.

Edited by Hollow Earth, 24 December 2013 - 12:04 AM.

[Taemien]

Kampfer, on 23 December 2013 - 12:36 PM, said:

So I just got out of the game in which I died from overheating. I was in my Battlemaster 1D with my 4 Large Lasers and despite chain fire and lots of heat sinks I was running really hot. My lance was defending one of the bases on Conquest and we were going down one at a time. My lance manages to kill 3 of the 6 attackers before it's down to just me. My Center torso is orange, left torso was red and the Victor in front of me lost all his CT armor but my heat was at 90%. I made the decision to hit override, turn off chain fire and alpha strike the dude. I got him but died from overheating.
Dude was totally ticked off, he threatens to report me for intentionally overheating to kill myself. I admit I definitely died on purpose, but it's not like I was at the starting drop point and did it to kill myself to go to the next match. I was trying to kill the dude to give my teammates an edge to victory.
So I ask? Is that a dishonorable tactic or was it the honorable and right thing to do?

You died, but to help the greater good of your team. You did the right thing. In fact you did the quintessential alpha strike. Guy was ticked because you did something he would have wished he could do. Simple as that.

As for honorable... thats something a clanner would have done in BattleTech lore given the circumstance (outnumbered, and must stop the enemy at all cost). You don't get anymore honorable then that.

[Galenit]

Kampfer, on 23 December 2013 - 12:36 PM, said:

Dude was totally ticked off, he threatens to report me for intentionally overheating to kill myself. I admit I definitely died on purpose, but it's not like I was at the starting drop point and did it to kill myself to go to the next match. I was trying to kill the dude to give my teammates an edge to victory.
So I ask? Is that a dishonorable tactic or was it the honorable and right thing to do?

My girl said something about that, it was in another game and more then 10 years ago, but it is still true:
If an enemy goes mad after you have done something in a game, you have done it right.

Edited by Galenit, 24 December 2013 - 05:03 AM.

[Piney II]

Helmer, on 23 December 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

Sounds like a warriors death to me.

This.

You did the right thing, Kampfer - give it everything you have and go down swinging.

[627]

I do this regulary if I'm surounded with no way to escape. Better dish out maximum damage before you go down.

And some rage tears on top of it are the icing on the cake

[Jon Gotham]

Sounds like he was raging because he was swarming in to gank you-thinking you had no chance and he was going to score a cheap kill.
Unluckily for him, you blew his face off and made him look a greedy, cowardly no skill fool.

I say, good job! I bet you smiled:)

[MustrumRidcully]

Completely legit behaviour. Better to overheat, die and take someone* with you then just die.

*) an opponent.

But is this a balance topic, or someone one would rather post in General Discussion?

Edited by MustrumRidcully, 24 December 2013 - 07:15 AM.

[Grommen]

The only glory in death, is the knowledge of how many you took with you.

All is fair in love and war.

If someone is trying to kill you. You kill em' right back!

Think that covers it.

Edited by Grommen, 24 December 2013 - 07:40 AM.

[Mawai]

Totally legitimate in my opinion. You overheated with the intention of killing an opponent. You were going to die anyway. You took one of them with you by your choice of action. Absolutely nothing wrong with it and certainly not against any usage terms in the game.


However, even if you were standing by yourself on the corner of the map ... the last one on your team in a situation where you were going to lose anyway ... I don't see anything wrong with overheating or running out of bounds to end the match. The rules say you have to come to play ... you can't be afk ... but if after fighting it is clear you have lost (personally, I don't give up but I can certainly see it as an option) ... then I don't see anything wrong with blowing yourself up. It's not as if you have to stand around waiting to pad someone's kill board ...

[Varent]

Kampfer, on 23 December 2013 - 12:36 PM, said:

So I just got out of the game in which I died from overheating. I was in my Battlemaster 1D with my 4 Large Lasers and despite chain fire and lots of heat sinks I was running really hot. My lance was defending one of the bases on Conquest and we were going down one at a time. My lance manages to kill 3 of the 6 attackers before it's down to just me. My Center torso is orange, left torso was red and the Victor in front of me lost all his CT armor but my heat was at 90%. I made the decision to hit override, turn off chain fire and alpha strike the dude. I got him but died from overheating.
Dude was totally ticked off, he threatens to report me for intentionally overheating to kill myself. I admit I definitely died on purpose, but it's not like I was at the starting drop point and did it to kill myself to go to the next match. I was trying to kill the dude to give my teammates an edge to victory.
So I ask? Is that a dishonorable tactic or was it the honorable and right thing to do?

this... post... confuses me....

You did exactly what you are supposed to do in mwo... in every way... and you did it well... and your apologizing because someones a troll and an *****?

Dont apologize... you did a great job... keep it up....

[Bobdolemite]

Dont worry about the crybabies. Just yesterday was playing an assault match where a player threw a tissy fit over get this "Intentional base capping" this was the last mech alive on the other team (a damaged spider)

Despite everyone telling the guy it was legal his response was: "I dont care im reporting it anyway"

There is no shortage of these people. Oh and yes overheating to melt your opponents face is legal (and REALLY gratifying) I try to do it as much as possible (when the situation warrants) and have managed some funny matches including:

multi kill override deaths

last kill overriide death (try this one its truly epic, and depending on how late the explosion is sometimes you still get the salvage bonus for being alive at end of match)

[ChapeL]

It's not like you hid in a corner of the map and shot your weapons off at nothing until you blew up.

I say well done sir !

[Zerberus]

Taemien, on 24 December 2013 - 04:23 AM, said:

You died, but to help the greater good of your team. You did the right thing. In fact you did the quintessential alpha strike. Guy was ticked because you did something he would have wished he could do. Simple as that.

As for honorable... thats something a clanner would have done in BattleTech lore given the circumstance (outnumbered, and must stop the enemy at all cost). You don't get anymore honorable then that.

^^ This.

As far as the "i`m gonna report you for that" BS in the OP:

By far the worst thing about this game is people making up rules in their head that don`t exist and then chastising others for not playing by them, and it`s negative effects are much more widespread than most would expect.

I say just have a glass of Fukitol and keep on trucking.

[Bront]

I wish I could die that kind of overheat death. Usually my overheat deaths involve me shutting down, and THEN losing a heatsink to fire, resulting in heat death.

[Corvus Antaka]

Kampfer, on 23 December 2013 - 12:36 PM, said:

Dude was totally ticked off, he threatens to report me for intentionally overheating to kill myself. I admit I definitely died on purpose, but it's not like I was at the starting drop point and did it to kill myself to go to the next match. I was trying to kill the dude to give my teammates an edge to victory.

Let them rage man. I constantly over-ride my shutdowns to get those final shots in. ESPECIALLY if 4-5 guys are shooting me at once, if your gonna go down anyhow, no point in letting the mech shutdown. If she blows up, so much the better, deny those scum a kill for jumping you with 5 mechs

It's a valid strategy/last minute tactic to resort too. Shutting down is about the worst thing you can do in a fight, and unless you must to save blowing up your mech, you may as well over-ride it.

[Sheraf]

That's the right thing to do, if you are gonna die, take the enemy with you. I hit override when I know I'm gonna die too