4831 replies to this topic

[Takashi Uchida]

I guess my process is: 190 XL + the 3 heat sinks needed + weaps + whatever is left for ammo

I always max the engine, though I think with speed tweak 180 is fine. i've been talking of getting one myself, though I just blew my cbills on sl and spl mods lol

With 190.. 4xsrm2s is good, but if you want a backup laser there's not much room for ammo and your staying power is even more limited. Though with 3xsrm2 +1ml, sometimes it feels like you got ammo you won't even use.

[K0M3D14N]

InspectorG, on 04 November 2014 - 05:55 PM, said:

Thoughts on how many srms on the S?

Do i want 4xsrm2? Whats a good amount of ammo and engine size? XL170?

Honestly I've had decent luck with both loadouts. I run an XL190 in mine and have two tons of ammo. I've never even really managed to drop below 50 rounds because of a liberal use of the MLAS on the CT.

SRM4 is good for bursty punch. SRM2 is good for more sustained cockpit shake with the option to alpha. It gets HOT though, especially without DHS. Didn't really have a heat issue with the SRM4s.

[Tarogato]

Funny we're talking about the 3S, I was just about to ask about it.

How much luck do people have in it? I'll probably play a dozen more games in it and sell if it doesn't perform to my expectations.

LCT-3S (XL180, 4x SRM2,1x MLas) With SRM2 cooldown module.

I'm getting games under 300dmg and under 5 assists and running out of ammo. It's just not pulling its weight like my 1E is.

Edited by Tarogato, 04 November 2014 - 07:28 PM.

[Spheroid]

Absolutely insane! This was my second Locust match tonight post patch.

[Fuggles]

Spheroid, on 04 November 2014 - 07:27 PM, said:

Absolutely insane! This was my second Locust match tonight post patch.

looks like that enemy direwolf soloed your team.

[Spheroid]

@Fuggles: A lot of the Direwolf damage was slas padding from killing nearly dead teammates with few weapons during the endgame. I am not denying that is one of the best scores I have ever seen on damage though. It was a close and awesome game.

Edited by Spheroid, 04 November 2014 - 08:04 PM.

[Takashi Uchida]

Need to carry harder!

[Mothykins]

Upon trying the ERLL 1V I have come to this conclusion;

It's no better than the SPL build I've been using; If anything, it's worse, no BAP, limited machinegun support, and use of your range advantage generally ending with a gauss round through your face. Not impressed.

The other thing I've discovered in unless you are using fullstop and full throttle buttons, or have throttle decay on, there is zero performance increase from the decel and accel buffs. The throttle rate of increase isn't fast enough to keep up with it; to full stop from all throttle is a fraction of a second. This doesn't work well for me, as with decay my options are pretty much "on" or "off" and without there's a net zero increase in performance. Pointless Buff is Pointless.

[Tim East]

I felt like it got super-nimble, but then I fly with throttle decay enabled. Haven't played it much yet though since I've been trying to level all my new mechs on and off.

[The Driver]

Im liking the new quirked 1V. It aint a straight up brawler, but it now has 2 definate roles (long range harrasser or MG mech cleanup) and it can perform those roles really well!

Edited by The Driver, 05 November 2014 - 12:49 AM.

[Ovion]

Cavale, on 04 November 2014 - 08:53 PM, said:

Upon trying the ERLL 1V I have come to this conclusion;

It's no better than the SPL build I've been using; If anything, it's worse, no BAP, limited machinegun support, and use of your range advantage generally ending with a gauss round through your face. Not impressed.

The other thing I've discovered in unless you are using fullstop and full throttle buttons, or have throttle decay on, there is zero performance increase from the decel and accel buffs. The throttle rate of increase isn't fast enough to keep up with it; to full stop from all throttle is a fraction of a second. This doesn't work well for me, as with decay my options are pretty much "on" or "off" and without there's a net zero increase in performance. Pointless Buff is Pointless.

While I haven't had the chance to play post-patch apart from 1 game in my Ice Ferret, it may help myself and others that use twin sticks / stick + throttle.

I'll report back on it later.

[InspectorG]

Cavale, on 04 November 2014 - 08:53 PM, said:

Upon trying the ERLL 1V I have come to this conclusion;

It's no better than the SPL build I've been using; If anything, it's worse, no BAP, limited machinegun support, and use of your range advantage generally ending with a gauss round through your face. Not impressed.

The other thing I've discovered in unless you are using fullstop and full throttle buttons, or have throttle decay on, there is zero performance increase from the decel and accel buffs. The throttle rate of increase isn't fast enough to keep up with it; to full stop from all throttle is a fraction of a second. This doesn't work well for me, as with decay my options are pretty much "on" or "off" and without there's a net zero increase in performance. Pointless Buff is Pointless.

ive been using the V to pressure and suppress. Flank and you can touch many enemies and make them antsy. Doesnt vulture as well as other variants.

[Fuggles]

Ok I'm having a blast with my lolcust 3m. My build hasn't changed at all, 4 mlas 2/arm 2x ams 1.5t ammo but it got buffed like crazy. Having mlas that can touch people at 700m+ is just awesome.

I've never tried the 1e as It came out after I mastered locusts, how is it fairing as a small laser boat? Is it worth picking up now?

[jper4]

Takashi Uchida, on 04 November 2014 - 05:59 PM, said:

I guess my process is: 190 XL + the 3 heat sinks needed + weaps + whatever is left for ammo

I always max the engine, though I think with speed tweak 180 is fine. i've been talking of getting one myself, though I just blew my cbills on sl and spl mods lol

With 190.. 4xsrm2s is good, but if you want a backup laser there's not much room for ammo and your staying power is even more limited. Though with 3xsrm2 +1ml, sometimes it feels like you got ammo you won't even use.

the ML/3SRM2 w/ 2 tons of ammo was what i used for a long time. dropping the 4th SRM2 gives you more staying power for the same ammo (25 alphas vs 33) and is better for heat as well. i think i use an xl170 on it. something between a 170 and 190 anyway.

recently switched to ML/2SSRMs and 2 tons of ammo w/ BAP. does more damage due to streak scatter and less missing i suppose too. kinda like that build. mostly because i watched someone's video with 3 ssrms (no bap though i don;t think- was having trouble with ecm locks) and a ML and pretty much crushed the enemy team by himself- 4 or 5 kills and 800 dmg or something like that. so i decided to try something similar

[Soul Tribunal]

So, Post patch I finally had my moment.
I know to the Locust Veterans this will seem normal for them, but I am still learning.

I got my first offical kill in one. And it wasn't a little Kill.

I was using my 2ML 4 x SL 1E build and got put on HPG for Conquest. Which, to me is perfect because I am ultra fast and small, and with the new cap times I actually matter.
About halfway through the fight I had been terrorizing the slaughter fest at Theta when I noticed our cap level, so I decided to hit the outlaying caps. By the time I got to one I was greeted by an opposing capper. Boars Head.
In a twisting turning and crazy engagement (he was running the stock XL400) I managed to take out a ST For the Kill. It was, the best moment of my little Loci's Life.

I know many more will come, but the first is always the best.

-ST

[ShadowbaneX]

Fuggles, on 05 November 2014 - 08:39 AM, said:

Ok I'm having a blast with my lolcust 3m. My build hasn't changed at all, 4 mlas 2/arm 2x ams 1.5t ammo but it got buffed like crazy. Having mlas that can touch people at 700m+ is just awesome.

I run my 3M fairly close to yours. XL190, 4 SPLs, 2 ASM w/1t, and full armour. Yeah, there's .14 tons not used, but I figure a) it's not worth stripping what little armour there is for an SL or a half ton of AMS ammo and that .14 t is probably needed for to account for the weight of the balls of the MW that strap themselves into the BT equivalent of the disposable razor.

Anyway, it took me a few matches, my 2nd I saw a mech on seismic over a small hill, charged them thinking I could turn their flank for the guys coming behind me but it was a AC/20 Cent and they managed to wing my LT...depressing, but man I must have flown 50 m. It was awesome, but made the next 10 minutes very boring.

That said on my 3rd or 4th match I had a doozy.



edit:

Cavale, on 04 November 2014 - 08:53 PM, said:

The other thing I've discovered in unless you are using fullstop and full throttle buttons, or have throttle decay on, there is zero performance increase from the decel and accel buffs. The throttle rate of increase isn't fast enough to keep up with it; to full stop from all throttle is a fraction of a second. This doesn't work well for me, as with decay my options are pretty much "on" or "off" and without there's a net zero increase in performance. Pointless Buff is Pointless.

Pointless Buff is amazing. Granted, I do use full throttle/full stop keys, and the thing stops on a dime now. I realized a long time ago that throttling up can be slower than most light mech's full acceleration. If you're a light pilot you should have those bound. As for throttle decay I tried it when it first came out and I hate it.

Edited by ShadowbaneX, 06 November 2014 - 07:22 AM.

[levitas]

Cavale, on 04 November 2014 - 08:53 PM, said:

Upon trying the ERLL 1V I have come to this conclusion;

It's no better than the SPL build I've been using; If anything, it's worse, no BAP, limited machinegun support, and use of your range advantage generally ending with a gauss round through your face. Not impressed.

The other thing I've discovered in unless you are using fullstop and full throttle buttons, or have throttle decay on, there is zero performance increase from the decel and accel buffs. The throttle rate of increase isn't fast enough to keep up with it; to full stop from all throttle is a fraction of a second. This doesn't work well for me, as with decay my options are pretty much "on" or "off" and without there's a net zero increase in performance. Pointless Buff is Pointless.

How can you peek without taking advantage of the acceleration quirks? I can't imagine trying to do the weaving and dodging I do without max throttle and throttle decay.

I've been extremely impressed by the 1v, and less by the 3m. Being able to poke way better than other mechs and get behind cover instantly is really fun and my survivability has skyrocketed. With the 3m, I still have to get close to get anything done, which often means choosing not to participate for a bit or making myself a target.

[Tarogato]

Fuggles, on 05 November 2014 - 08:39 AM, said:

I've never tried the 1e as It came out after I mastered locusts, how is it fairing as a small laser boat? Is it worth picking up now?

The 1E got a heat dissipation quirk that the 3M doesn't get. I find it helps with 5x MLas build. (6x MLas is even too hot for my Jenner, I'm starting to run 5 on it as well.)

ShadowbaneX, on 06 November 2014 - 07:08 AM, said:

... it was a AC/20 Cent and they managed to wing my LT...depressing, but man I must have flown 50 m. It was awesome, but made the next 10 minutes very boring.

I live for those deaths. No literally, my Locust is born to die in a wrecking heap menacingly spinning heel over head dozens of meters through the air. It's the best part. =]

Soul Tribunal, on 05 November 2014 - 09:43 AM, said:

... I was greeted by an opposing capper. Boars Head.
In a twisting turning and crazy engagement (he was running the stock XL400) I managed to take out a ST For the Kill. It was, the best moment of my little Loci's Life.

Sounds beautiful, brings a glistening to my eye thinking about it. Go little bug, go!

[ShadowbaneX]

Tarogato, on 06 November 2014 - 07:19 AM, said:

I live for those deaths. No literally, my Locust is born to die in a wrecking heap menacingly spinning heel over head dozens of meters through the air. It's the best part. =]

While it's awesome, I generally have more fun doing that to other people. That said, we need a built in recorder or something that shows our kills & deaths. If I could relive the moment from like half a dozen different angles I'd get more enjoyment out of it.

[Soul Tribunal]

Tarogato, on 06 November 2014 - 07:19 AM, said:

The 1E got a heat dissipation quirk that the 3M doesn't get. I find it helps with 5x MLas build. (6x MLas is even too hot for my Jenner, I'm starting to run 5 on it as well.)

I live for those deaths. No literally, my Locust is born to die in a wrecking heap menacingly spinning heel over head dozens of meters through the air. It's the best part. =]
Sounds beautiful, brings a glistening to my eye thinking about it. Go little bug, go!

Oh yeah, I was doing some serious weaving on Alpine in the usual spot. Manged to create absolute havoc , launch a UAV, drop an Arty strike when in my ascent I was greeted by a AC20 BJ. I laughed as my poor Loci was tossed almost skyward and then sent plummeting into the abyss.

For the unbelievers who read this. This isn't about damage to me. For anyone who has seen the Movie "Up" , I am the squirrel. I distract and cause mayhem as everyone tries to shoot me. I even made a GaussJager TK his buddy chasing me (Ember). He took a shot but thanks to Lag/God/The Locust Queen , the ember chasing me ate the dual rounds instead.
If you cause chaos and confusion, among their ranks, they aren't paying attention to the bigger mechs coming to take their candy.

And I love it. Every terror induced minute of it.

Now, I am waiting to see the HERO mechs comming up before I get my 3rd. If we get a Locust Hero that will be my mastery locust.

-ST