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#2561 IraqiWalker

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 07:35 PM

View PostDino Might, on 13 May 2015 - 06:54 PM, said:

Invisible TAG (at least to others) has been needed for quite some time. The only users of TAG are the missile boats themselves, and there's no reason to bother with stealth when you have 8 VCRs strapped to your head.

I rarely, if ever, see a light trying to dedicated TAG spot. I've tried, and I gave up quickly. Then with the 3V I tried again, and even with 1125 range and the aforementioned tweaks, it doesn't do any good when the enemy can gauss snipe you, because the only way to hold a TAG on target at 1k is to stand perfectly still.


It can be a pain. My only mech that I sometimes dedicate to LRM spotting is my COM-2D. Since it has ECM. ECM+TAG, is the safest way to spot for LRMs. I stay hidden, while tagging the rearmost enemy. On Caustic Valley I've caused entire lances to suffer critical existence failure because they don't know how they are still being spotted (It does help that I do this in group drops where I know I have at least 1 or 2 LRM boats firing 4+ LRMs per salvo.)

#2562 Shadey99

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 07:58 PM

I've seen a Spider spot for teams on Crimson Straits from the island, tagging people on the overpass for LRM boats in the upper city. My team being fired on kept asking where the UAV was... I engaged with my Locust, but that made the Spiders team fire across the water at me and I got killed before I finished his legs. x.x

#2563 That Dawg

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 02:17 AM

tag should be invisible to enemy, period.

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 02:57 AM

TAG should be invisible as an in-game effect, but it would be nice if they added an indicator like the ECM one on the right side of the screen (where the NARC one should be as well).

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 03:36 AM

if you're narc'd, its stupid NOT to have some warning show up-with all the other warnings we get??
...no narc "warning you're narc'd goofball" red light flashing in the enemys face- its sort of the pay off for a narc rig to take that risk wasting space and slots on that get close, does no damage thing that needs ammo and only helps team mates...

enter the tag....should be the same as narc- enemy should have no clue they're lit up-OR be able to see it!...any clue HOW many times I've dumb fired LRM's, dropped arty or just took a ballistic/ppc pot shot where I thought that tag laser emanated and had my cross hairs go red? often enough to waste ammo trying!

its like that 3rd person view lighted drone thing. I dont take tag on anything cause its a pain beacon giving away my location, not worth it the way it is.
Either on a big slow lrm boat, or a fragile fast light.

#2566 Shadey99

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 07:44 AM

View PosteFTy, on 14 May 2015 - 02:57 AM, said:

TAG should be invisible as an in-game effect, but it would be nice if they added an indicator like the ECM one on the right side of the screen (where the NARC one should be as well).


Actually... I'd like it if normal vision mode it was invisible, but alternate vision modes would show the Tag beam... 'Thermal' mode already highlights laser beams (Tag should be dimmer though), If night vision is actually light amplification then it should pick up lasers as well...

Usually I take TAG on my LRM boats though to null ECM, not a dedicated scout. Dedicated scouts just suffer to much in PUG games. Even team games with say a lance of Dedicated LRM boats can be questionable against a good group. Which is why LRMs are not considered good in the first place...

#2567 Scout Derek

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 07:51 AM

So back to what I heard on here earlier about the 2 mpl 2 mgs....

Probably the most effective build for the 3V.

Once when with my team, a banshee was tearing up one of our dire wolfs. I got up in his face, mind you he's a banshee with 3 ac/5, and like a pug, doesn't switch to chainfire. He was so preoccupied with me that my team came back and he began ignoring me, for the dire wolf we had came back and had pounded at him for the 3 seconds he was busy with me. Least to say the Best Lolcust tactic for those assaults with large guns and slow cooldown: get in their face, and make sure that you're team is within 400 M for you to get back to.

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 07:58 AM

i find tag very useful tandem arm mounted ppc if tag hits the ppc will hit. also use grouped it with erll/ll on the same mount. but yeah if you are on the ball tag is a dead give away. as i say tag works both ways

here we see a spider tagging till the catapult decided to chase him down. notice how even in this grainy low res vid tag shows up really well. spider decided to bug out rather then face the catapult



#2569 NUJRSYDEVIL

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 03:21 PM

Does anyone run a PPC/ERPPC Locust? I tried the setup with a Mist Lynx and it was dreadful, the only real success I had was on HPG Manifold on top of the walls. The Locust would still have ECM (I have a PB) but wouldn't be able to get up that high.

#2570 xMintaka

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 03:38 PM

Hope to see some names from this thread up on the Locust leaderboard this weekend.

#2571 Daggett

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 04:20 PM

Sadly i do not own the Phoenix Locust... :(

#2572 Ovion

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 04:38 PM

I hope it's voted yes so that I canown a phoenix Locust.

#2573 xMintaka

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 05:34 PM

View PostOvion, on 14 May 2015 - 04:38 PM, said:

I hope it's voted yes so that I canown a phoenix Locust.


It's the only one with beneficial custom geometry.The extra area on the arms is helpful for shielding.

The scaffolding around the cockpit, on the other hand...

#2574 Ovion

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 05:37 PM

Don't care, looks awesome.
Love the 1V, love my Locusts.
Don't know if I'd even sell the duplicates.

#2575 That Dawg

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 05:46 PM

Rebought some I had only done the basic on.
During that time, bought a PB.
and...the PB is the least effective of all of them.
tried 'all' the builds, and theres a couple that are easily twice the fun, and twice the stats vs. the PB.
Settled finally on the 4smalls/2mg's
all have the same engine, all have close to the same rated firepower and the peanut butter is clearly the weakest among them.
Am I alone in thinking a locust with ecm would dominate the field of all variants?
To find rather the opposite?
Same play style, same same. 4 locusts: PB has about a hundred battles in it, and comparatively speaking, its the lowest one stat wise.

#2576 Dino Might

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 06:40 PM

I own it and hope to participate, but I'm going to be in Boston with the fiance most of the weekend. Plus, there are many Locust pilots out there better than me. I'd love to represent, but I don't think I've got the time or the skills. Please, someone, win the overall event - outscore every other chassis with the 1V. Do it for the best chassis that has ever graced MWO!

Edited by Dino Might, 14 May 2015 - 06:40 PM.


#2577 3xnihilo

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 07:11 PM

It would be awesome to see someone from this thread do well in the leader board challenge! I would also like to second that I hope the Phoenix mechs go back on sale so I can get the Phoenix locust. I need a second 1v for the mpl/4mg build :D

#2578 Neutron IX

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 09:18 PM

View Post3xnihilo, on 14 May 2015 - 07:11 PM, said:

It would be awesome to see someone from this thread do well in the leader board challenge! I would also like to second that I hope the Phoenix mechs go back on sale so I can get the Phoenix locust. I need a second 1v for the mpl/4mg build :D


Well, as an owner of the Overlord Phoenix package, I, for one, really hope we unlock the vote, so that I can vote "YES".

I would love to make the pack available again, and if other Phoenix owners feel strongly against it, maybe we can toss in some bonuses for those that already own it or something, or additional titles, something, but let's just make this package available for purchase again for those that missed it eh?

#2579 IraqiWalker

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 09:52 PM

View PostLunatech, on 14 May 2015 - 05:34 PM, said:

The scaffolding around the cockpit, on the other hand...

Has made me want to sell the mech at least 4 times. It can drive me nuts to the point my brain melts, but it does have a weird charm. Like the first time you see a needle or piece of wood lodged into your skin. It's weird, and doesn't feel natural, but you still want to look at it.

View PostRip Snorgan, on 14 May 2015 - 09:18 PM, said:


Well, as an owner of the Overlord Phoenix package, I, for one, really hope we unlock the vote, so that I can vote "YES".

I would love to make the pack available again, and if other Phoenix owners feel strongly against it, maybe we can toss in some bonuses for those that already own it or something, or additional titles, something, but let's just make this package available for purchase again for those that missed it eh?

I would personally vote "Yes". It was the original well priced package, and many people still want it back, since it's the ONLY package that people can't purchase anymore, other than Founders (Founders should never be unlocked again, since every single member of it actually took a big risk, and supported creating the game. That is actual credit that shouldn't be claimed by those who weren't there for it. FFS the Founders have their name in the games credits).

#2580 IraqiWalker

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Posted 15 May 2015 - 12:04 AM

So I just jumped back into my 1V after months of not touching it. Running my ERLL set up, and trying to get back into the swing of things.

Considering when this thread started. I gotta say, 250 damage per match, seems measly in it right now.


EDIT: NVM, just got 425 in the 1V. I'm getting my groove back.

Edited by IraqiWalker, 15 May 2015 - 12:11 AM.






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