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[FupDup]

You forgot Shadow Hawks, Cataphracts, Jagermechs, and Stalkers. Maybe the Sabre mediums too, I dunno. The rest of the mech roster is either sub-par or outright bad (i.e. Trebuchet, Awesome, Dragon, etc...).

[AlmightyAeng]

NRP, on 13 January 2014 - 10:45 AM, said:

OMG, is Lockwood the one with that dual LB-10x Hunchback that was going to ruin the game unless PGI did something about it, or do I have the OP mixed up with some other loon?

Technically he's the individual who is now saying that PGI ruined his perfect convergence dual LBX hunchback because of the new hunch geometry.

[NRP]

Okay, so it is the same dude. LOL!

I think Jman5 hit the nail on the head. The difference between the "meta" mechs and most of the rest of the mechs is probably a lot less than most peoples' egos can handle. Pilot skill is a huge factor, far and away the most important factor imo.

Edited by NRP, 13 January 2014 - 11:37 AM.

[Vidarok]

Kubernetes, on 13 January 2014 - 05:27 AM, said:

I just bought three Quickdraws.

I'm surprised you don't see them more. They're decently armored, have JJ, and can mount two PPCs in the torso mounts. They run like baby Highlanders at medium speed, which makes them pretty nasty poptarters.

I play it more like a... I dunno, cool (as in heat) mid-range striker. 4ML and 2LL, 300 XL and 20 DHS. No ES or FF armor.

Edited by Vidarok, 13 January 2014 - 11:45 AM.

[Spawnsalot]

Oh lockwood... posts like a ponce on EvAv and posts like a ponce here too. Keep up the good work lock!

[Roadbeer]

This thread has been voted....

WORST THREAD OF THE WEEK!

Congratulations [poster] your efforts to lower the overall intelligence of the forums have been successful, and we look forward to future activity in this thread once it has been moved to K Town.

[Rhaythe]

...and it's only Monday.

[Roadbeer]

Rhaythe, on 13 January 2014 - 12:56 PM, said:

...and it's only Monday.

Like with the Dev Tracker, I'm going from Sunday to Sunday. Since this post was created yesterday....

And yes... this will be a new thing I'm doing for 2014, I'm also toying with "Least Helpful Dev Post of the Month", were I doing this last month, the Player Level/Module post would have won hands down.

[Iqfish]

Guys, I just took a giant ***t!

It felt great, it just had to come out there.

[The Unknown Pilot]

Vidarok, on 13 January 2014 - 11:44 AM, said:

I play it more like a... I dunno, cool (as in heat) mid-range striker. 4ML and 2LL, 300 XL and 20 DHS. No ES or FF armor.

I was curious about a build like that to compliment my Victor and S Hawk sine I needed a heavy. All the bad press on it being a suicide wagon deterred me.

How have you found them in light of this, for an average to above-average pilot, chassis depending?

[KharnZor]

Roadbeer, on 13 January 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

This thread has been voted....

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Congratulations [poster] your efforts to lower the overall intelligence of the forums have been successful, and we look forward to future activity in this thread once it has been moved to K Town.

[Turist0AT]

[Kjudoon]

Kyynele, on 13 January 2014 - 05:00 AM, said:

Do you seriously call poptarting pinpoint-alpha autocannon-PPC builds balanced jack of all trades? Or aren't you just really aware why Victors and Highlanders are considered good in the current meta?

Metas are only meta till someone solves the meta or PGI nerfs it.

Rhaythe, on 13 January 2014 - 12:56 PM, said:

...and it's only Monday.

Let's hear it for exceptionalism in posting.

[Rebas Kradd]

I see every mech in the game except for the Trebuchet, and I see every mech in the game except the Trebuchet taking turns at being amongst the highest damage mechs in any given round. They're all usable given enough time and patience...which is exactly the kind of game I want.

This, by the way, is how I know the weapons in MWO are fairly balanced. It's the first major fallacy in balance thinking around here...the idea that you can balance weapons in a vacuum separated from the impact of the mechs. You can't, because mechs use weapons differently. You can't balance weapons; you can only balance mechs.

[Kubernetes]

The Unknown Pilot, on 13 January 2014 - 01:17 PM, said:

I was curious about a build like that to compliment my Victor and S Hawk sine I needed a heavy. All the bad press on it being a suicide wagon deterred me.

How have you found them in light of this, for an average to above-average pilot, chassis depending?

Average, but I'm still unlocking proficiencies, so I can't say for certain. It's no brawler, so you have to stay at midrange for the most part. The one thing I dislike is that it seems to accelerate pretty slowly, even with a 300xl engine (81kph). A 320 makes it come alive and move more like a SHawk.

[ProtoformX]

lockwoodx, on 12 January 2014 - 11:08 PM, said:

It's the jenner, victor, or highlander.

Anything else is just tricking yourself into thinking your useful.

With a meta this narrow.... no wonder this game is on the brink.

Lewl.

You're just tricking yourself into thinking that the 'Mech has anything to do with a pilot's usefulness.

With an opinion this narrow-minded... No wonder you have false impressions of the state of the game.

[Piney II]

LOL!


I've been "useful" in Jagers and Cataphracts and I have no issues with these mechs.

[Texas Merc]

Hey lets not be too harsh

Opinions are like,well you know the rest.

[Bishop Steiner]

lockwoodx, on 12 January 2014 - 11:08 PM, said:

It's the jenner, victor, or highlander.

Anything else is just tricking yourself into thinking your useful.

With a meta this narrow.... no wonder this game is on the brink.

L2P?

I compete, both in PUG and 12 man using Blackjacks, Hunchbacks, Centurions, Shadowhawks, Jagermechs, Cataphracts, Orions, Victors, Battlemasters and my NON DDC Atlases (and your exclusion of the DDC shows you are either trolling or clueless). All of which I am running positive W/L and over 2.0 KDrs in, and I am not one who gives a {Scrap} about stat padding, so if me dying buys time for my team to rally and save the cap, then in I go guns blazing. It's hell on one's KDr if epeen is important to you, but I really don't care.

At the end of the day, with any reasonable builds, it's the Meat, not the Metal.

[Mawai]

lockwoodx, on 12 January 2014 - 11:08 PM, said:

It's the jenner, victor, or highlander.

Anything else is just tricking yourself into thinking your useful.

With a meta this narrow.... no wonder this game is on the brink.

I would disagree. However, with such an unequivocal sort of statement I am guessing you are trolling.

Although Victors, Highlanders and Jenners are good they are actually a minority of the mechs fielded.

Raven-3L
Spider-5D
Atlas D-DC
JM6-S, A, DD
CPLT - various types
Cataphracts
Shadowhawk
Battlemaster

In the matches I play in these mechs are probably as common or more common than the Highlander/Victor/Jenner and there are others I haven't even mentioned.

Edited by Mawai, 13 January 2014 - 06:21 PM.