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[Mekwarrior]

Yes good to show some pictures, take one in forest colony in the tunnel.

It is much worse with some mechs.

[KharnZor]

Vermonster, on 27 January 2014 - 07:49 PM, said:

I think this needs more pictures, because some people just don't believe that we have legitimate issues. I've been taking screens to share with support and so far there has been no solution, yet they act like there is an issue.

Here is my gallery, updated infrequently as I play other games when I have the chance.
http://sdrv.ms/1b3fnuN

P.S.
in 2005 They figured it out http://youtu.be/WifUwJcJsIA?t=2m50s

ohhh yea that looks pretty terrible

[Prezimonto]

Mostly I feel the response need is "chill". That being said, the MFD's that display "no signal" since closed beta ARE a gigantic reminder of all the stuff that's still not in the game. One that anyone who plays can't help but notice.

[Xtrekker]

Vermonster, on 27 January 2014 - 07:49 PM, said:

I think this needs more pictures, because some people just don't believe that we have legitimate issues. I've been taking screens to share with support and so far there has been no solution, yet they act like there is an issue.

Here is my gallery, updated infrequently as I play other games when I have the chance.
http://sdrv.ms/1b3fnuN

P.S.
in 2005 They figured it out http://youtu.be/WifUwJcJsIA?t=2m50s

Holy {Scrap}, are you playing with 100% gamma or something? What I see on mine is hardly noticeable, a little more on the sides with some light annoyances in the middle. I'm playing on super-duper high everything at 1920 x 1080. Maybe it's a card thing.

[KharnZor]

Vermonster, on 27 January 2014 - 07:49 PM, said:

I think this needs more pictures, because some people just don't believe that we have legitimate issues. I've been taking screens to share with support and so far there has been no solution, yet they act like there is an issue.

Here is my gallery, updated infrequently as I play other games when I have the chance.
http://sdrv.ms/1b3fnuN

P.S.
in 2005 They figured it out http://youtu.be/WifUwJcJsIA?t=2m50s

Out of curiosity what vid card? ATI or Nvidia?

[LastPaladin]

Deathlike, on 27 January 2014 - 02:27 PM, said:

So you're saying:
Vote Whine early, vote whine often.

You say whine, I say negative feedback.

[Vermonster]

KharnZor, on 27 January 2014 - 11:06 PM, said:

Out of curiosity what vid card? ATI or Nvidia?

Xtrekker, on 27 January 2014 - 10:29 PM, said:

Holy {Scrap}, are you playing with 100% gamma or something? What I see on mine is hardly noticeable, a little more on the sides with some light annoyances in the middle. I'm playing on super-duper high everything at 1920 x 1080. Maybe it's a card thing.

http://sdrv.ms/1gn11x2

I added some "regular" screens to show what I normally deal with. I also added 2 photos of my settings I never touched Gamma and run Medium everything, AA off, Motion blur low. I have an Overclocked 955BE running 3.7ghz, 8GB ram, ATI 5770 also overclocked. I know it isn't the best PC but I run flawlessly, 60fps, on Medium settings. I can run High but that tends to lag a bit at the worst times. I prioritize playability over looks.

I also wanted to remind some of the elitists that will inevitably say "upgrade or uninstall" That a player base is made up of all sorts of PCs, of varying quality. A game can't be successful if it only caters to the extreme gamers.

[Xtrekker]

Vermonster, on 28 January 2014 - 09:24 AM, said:

http://sdrv.ms/1gn11x2

I added some "regular" screens to show what I normally deal with. I also added 2 photos of my settings I never touched Gamma and run Medium everything, AA off, Motion blur low. I have an Overclocked 955BE running 3.7ghz, 8GB ram, ATI 5770 also overclocked. I know it isn't the best PC but I run flawlessly, 60fps, on Medium settings. I can run High but that tends to lag a bit at the worst times. I prioritize playability over looks.

I also wanted to remind some of the elitists that will inevitably say "upgrade or uninstall" That a player base is made up of all sorts of PCs, of varying quality. A game can't be successful if it only caters to the extreme gamers.

Took a couple of shots for this thread last night...




As you can see, the general haziness is pretty bad, but the scratches aren't much of an issue. At least this has been my typical experience. I only thought to do this in the Jager though, but haven't noticed much of a difference through my other mechs.

For reference, my specs:


OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
System RAM: 32744 MB
CPU Name: Intel® Core™ i7-3820 CPU @ 3.60GHz
CPU Speeds: 3601
Physical CPUs: 1
Virtual CPUs: 8
Video Card Description: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670
VRAM: 2048 MB
Primary Display Resolution: 1920x1080
Multi-Monitor Desktop Resolution: 5760x1080
Windows Experience Index Rating: 7.7

[LastPaladin]

You're right, just ranting and being spiteful doesn't help, but you get plenty of that on both sides, with some posters trolling people with legitimate complaints saying stuff like "Just quit the game, you suck", "L2P" and "QQ some more, your tears are delicious", etc. I think that's just going to come with the territory of a forum where the moderators don't step in and clamp down on people very much.

[Gen0]

I find it funny that the first page has comments suggesting that window cracking is detrimental to only good players, whilst forgetting that good players are good players no matter what.

I don't like window dirt, but I don't like my windscreen in my car getting obscured either. I do however understand and respect that it does happen and removing it deliberately would take us a step back from realism. This is not Quake, nor it is CoD. It was never meant to be some stripped down, back to basics shooter, so don't give in to all those people complaining about fluff when really micro is what often makes depth.

Film Grain on the other hand is somewhat stupid.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

agree on film grain, as there's no point in it, and it tends to lesson the image quality, not improve it [the only time it improved things was in Colonial Marines, because it gave it that 80's movie feel. I don't need that with battletech.]

Window effects can stay. I like the idea of the cockpit getting damaged.

The monitors need to be put to use, not removed.

[Vermonster]

Can someone explain why film grain is important to remove, but 100% view obscuring, "glass" is not?


More photos added from some games today. http://sdrv.ms/1gn11x2

[generalazure]

For giggles, I went into that tunnel myself in my laserback and took 2 screens. The first one uses the same gfx detail settings you used (everything on med), while the 2nd one is with the settings I normally play with (low shadows, low post processing, low particles).
Tried to get my glass as opaque as yours, but didn't manage. Guess it's either mech or video card/driver specific (using a geforce myself). Has to be fixed either way, would feel bad every time I should someone in the tunnel otherwise.
Until then, try dropping shadows to low.

On another note, I'm not terribly keen on the blurred objects in the distance. Sniping on forest colony feels as if I didn't have my glasses on at times.

Edited by generalazure, 29 January 2014 - 05:41 PM.

[Vermonster]

generalazure, on 29 January 2014 - 05:39 PM, said:

For giggles, I went into that tunnel myself in my laserback and took 2 screens. The first one uses the same gfx detail settings you used (everything on med), while the 2nd one is with the settings I normally play with (low shadows, low post processing, low particles).
Tried to get my glass as opaque as yours, but didn't manage. Guess it's either mech or video card/driver specific (using a geforce myself). Has to be fixed either way, would feel bad every time I should someone in the tunnel otherwise.
Until then, try dropping shadows to low.

On another note, I'm not terribly keen on the blurred objects in the distance. Sniping on forest colony feels as if I didn't have my glasses on at times.

I agree that is depends a lot on the mech, which is why I wanted to create a bank of Screens to prove to people that it does happen.

My personal thought is that there is some coding issue (surprised?) with how light reflects off the glass.

BTW addes some more good photos to my album

[Captain Stiffy]

still bad

[Kaeb Odellas]

I barely notice cockpit glass. Not sure what you're doing with your graphics settings, but it's seriously not a problem unless you're making videos.

The monitors just need to be updated so they show useful information. It shouldn't be a terribly difficult feature to implement, as some of the monitors already display info (heatsinks, ammo, kills). It's just all low priority at the moment.

I'm just confused why they decided to add cockpit glass before working monitors. "AUTODETECT: NO SIGNAL" is far more immersion-breaking than pristine glass.

[Sug]

I don't notice the glass anymore. Never did really. When you drive your car are you in constant angst over the windshield or do you just look passed it?

What currently bothers me is how dark all the maps are now that they disabled Brightness and Contrast settings. I'm playing in a dark room and still squinting to see shit.

Edited by Sug, 12 March 2014 - 12:30 PM.

[Captain Stiffy]

has any of this been changed

[AntharPrime]

This is MWO graphics all in a nutshell.

[Captain Stiffy]

I guess they will continue doing everything they can forever to take players who can aim down to the level of those who can't. I guess this is it, forever. They keep adding too many puke-factors to this game.

So that's that. Finally the Stiffy is gone forever. Some may rejoice, some may remember, but we'll all know why.