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[bearded sloth]

First off . . . Hello there,
I love this game it's a little bit of a learning curve to get going at first but lots of bangs " pew pews " and cashwacks ! lovely.

My problem is I see referenced in the forums something called " ghost heat " but no explanation to what or how it is implicated in the game.

I also seem to be drawing a little creative feed back from other players ( shot at by my own team ) I'm a little confused by this . . . ? I seems counter productive .

I have bought the book " Decision at thunder rift. " to try and get an idea of the background is there another book that would really help with this ?

Many thanks for helpful feed back and criticism .

Bearded Sloth .

[Edustaja]

For ghost heat see:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...eapon_heatscale

It's essentially just extra heat that you gain by firing x number of the same weapons at the same time. See the table, everything in green is just normal heat. Yellow has the numbers of the extra heat. It's a limitation for using multiples of PPC's or AC/20's on a mech in order to one shot people.

[Modo44]

Ghost heat is one of many lore deviations that follow the first and biggest one: allowing a wide range of mech modifications in live action instead of turn-based play. You will not find a reference in the books or the turn-based BattleTech games. It is a mechanic introduced to prevent weapon boating -- something that was the best build strategy in MechWarrior games to date, and also pretty boring (easy for new and veteran players alike, making no deviations viable).

If friendlies shoot you on purpose, make screenshots and report their ***** to support@mwomercs.com. The rules specifically prohibit that, and the GMs do take action.

Edited by Modo44, 24 January 2014 - 02:35 AM.

[Denolven]

Welcome to MWO o/
Friendly fire is generally active, so watch where you shoot and try to not walk into allied fire lines. There will be occasional allied damage due to the chaos of battle.
And then there are a few {Surat} who think they need to punish you for whatever. If you feel like it, you can report them for griefing, which is not allowed. But since you are a sloth like me, you probably don't care enough either

Oh, and please use the link in my signature next time. It leads to a stickied topic that is used for quick stuff.

Edited by Denolven, 24 January 2014 - 02:29 AM.

[Arnold J Rimmer]

As the other points have been answered, I'll jump in for the book question.

Getting the other two books in that trilogy - 'Mercenary's Star', and 'The Price of Glory' - is a good idea. It follows the creation and early exploits of one of Battletech's most lore-famous mercenary units, the Gray Death Legion. You should probably avoid 'Sword and Dagger', though. It was published between 'Decision at...' and 'Mercenary's Star', and is a little weird, even for BT lore.

You can find a list of .epub versions for free download here. They're listed by publication date.

[Rushin Roulette]

Modo44, on 24 January 2014 - 02:27 AM, said:

If friendlies shoot you on purpose, make screenshots and report their ***** to support@mwomercs.com. The rules specifically prohibit that, and the GMs do take action.

However, one thing to note is that this only applies to intentional friendly fire.

If you are in the middle of a big fight and you cross the line of fir of someone else, then any friendly fire is most probably accidentally and should be avoided through maneuvering and positioning. To avoid this, you should observer where the enemy is, were your teammates are and try to walk around the back of your teammate if he is already shooting at the opponent. Also, if you are fighting in close quarters, try not to get too close, as you will then block a very big portion of the firing lines which your teammates could be using to hit the same target. At least 75 meters distance to your opponent should be more than enough to safely make sure you are not shot too often by your teammates.

[bearded sloth]

Many many thanks for the info . . .
The smurfy link is awesome . . .
I'm enjoying the book, though it is a little " high school " lol

[Arnold J Rimmer]

bearded sloth, on 24 January 2014 - 04:45 AM, said:

Many many thanks for the info . . .
The smurfy link is awesome . . .
I'm enjoying the book, though it is a little " high school " lol

Yeah... I just started on the Michael Stackpole stuff, and it's even more high-school. So far, the Gray Death books are my favourites (although I'm not very far through). I've been told that the Jade Falcon books are pretty good.

It's all pretty much just pulp fiction, though. It does the job

[Appogee]

Stackpole is an attrocious author. It's a shame, because the storylines and periods of history he was given to write (eg. the Clan invasion) were the most interesting.

[Arnold J Rimmer]

Appogee, on 24 January 2014 - 05:21 AM, said:

Stackpole is an attrocious author. It's a shame, because the storylines and periods of history he was given to write (eg. the Clan invasion) were the most interesting.

I can't help but chuckle when people tell me his characters are great and feel real, etc. The man himself admitted he's terrible at writing people - he much prefers describing events. I cringe when I watch two people have a conversation; not for the dialogue so much as the weird exposition-thought-monologue that goes with it. "Little do you know that it is I, <insert name> that will best YOU, <insert antagonist> rather than the other way round! I am too clever and awesome and well-resourced! Ah-ha-ha-HA!"

[Appogee]

Arnold J Rimmer, on 24 January 2014 - 05:46 AM, said:

I cringe when I watch two people have a conversation;

I hate the way he starts every scene with a florid description of what the characters are wearing.

Other BattleTech authors wrote better prose, IMHO.

Edited by Appogee, 24 January 2014 - 06:32 AM.

[Hexenhammer]

Arnold J Rimmer, on 24 January 2014 - 05:46 AM, said:

I can't help but chuckle when people tell me his characters are great and feel real, etc. The man himself admitted he's terrible at writing people - he much prefers describing events. I cringe when I watch two people have a conversation; not for the dialogue so much as the weird exposition-thought-monologue that goes with it. "Little do you know that it is I, <insert name> that will best YOU, <insert antagonist> rather than the other way round! I am too clever and awesome and well-resourced! Ah-ha-ha-HA!"

So your saying the Last Airbender has better or worse dialogue?



And welcome Sloth and don't let learning curve turn you off from the game.
And if we meet on the battlefield I promise only to shoot you enough to kill you.

Edited by Hexenhammer, 24 January 2014 - 06:35 AM.

[Arnold J Rimmer]

Hexenhammer, on 24 January 2014 - 06:30 AM, said:

So your saying the Last Airbender has better or worse dialogue?

/shrug Never watched the show or the movie.

[AaronWolf]

Since everyone said the important stuff, I will just say:

[990Dreams]

Welcome to Hell. We hope you enjoy your stay.

...lol.

[Koniving]

bearded sloth, on 24 January 2014 - 02:04 AM, said:

First off . . . Hello there,
I love this game it's a little bit of a learning curve to get going at first but lots of bangs " pew pews " and cashwacks ! lovely.

My problem is I see referenced in the forums something called " ghost heat " but no explanation to what or how it is implicated in the game.

Edustaja has already provided you with a link; but essentially if you fire more than a certain number of the same or similar (linked) weapons at the same time or within 0.49 seconds of each other, you get punished with excess heat. Many of us consider it a really bad bandaid for an underlying problem that needs a serious address, but it has been this way for a year. It won't be changing.

bearded sloth, on 24 January 2014 - 02:04 AM, said:

I also seem to be drawing a little creative feed back from other players ( shot at by my own team ) I'm a little confused by this . . . ? I seems counter productive .

When you first start, most of the players with you are also very new or new as of the last three weeks. Some are at the peak of frustration as half of them don't know what they're doing, and the other half who clicked in right away are frustrated beyond imagination. Such things will pass as you 'evolve' up or down the matchmaker and out of that bracket. There's also kids that play and sometimes they are just...clueless. After all your team is both teal and blue (which looks like red to the colorblind) while the enemies are red.

bearded sloth, on 24 January 2014 - 02:04 AM, said:

I have bought the book " Decision at thunder rift. " to try and get an idea of the background is there another book that would really help with this ?

Many thanks for helpful feed back and criticism .

Bearded Sloth .

There's maybe a hundred books. Some of mention: Lethal Heritage. Temptation By War. Binding Force. Illusions of Victory. Price of Glory. Patriots and Tyrants. Storms of Fate (because King Crab.)

But if you want to sit back and get a lot of information real fast... Watch this to learn about the Inner Sphere (Liao, Steiner, Kurita, etc., etc., etc.). Then this to learn about the invading force known as the Clans.

I also recommend checking out the intro videos of Mechwarrior 2 (Ghost Bear's Legacy, Mercs), 3, 4 (and its expansions vengeance and mercs), and MechCommander 1 and 2.

[TygerLily]

bearded sloth, on 24 January 2014 - 02:04 AM, said:

I also seem to be drawing a little creative feed back from other players ( shot at by my own team ) I'm a little confused by this . . . ? I seems counter productive .

I might be wrong about this but I think new players start out in Windowed mode until they change it. If you're alt+tabbed out and CLICK to get back in, you'll fire your weapons...Could be a case of that!

Edited by TygerLily, 24 January 2014 - 08:18 AM.

[Koniving]

TygerLily, on 24 January 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

I might be wrong about this but I think new players start out in Windowed mode until they change it. If you're alt+tabbed out and CLICK to get back in, you'll fire your weapons...Could be a case of that!

This is true, I've done it many times by accident.

[bearded sloth]

Thank you very much for the links . . . I will go watch tem now !

[AaronWolf]

TygerLily, on 24 January 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

I might be wrong about this but I think new players start out in Windowed mode until they change it. If you're alt+tabbed out and CLICK to get back in, you'll fire your weapons...Could be a case of that!

Koniving, on 24 January 2014 - 08:44 AM, said:

This is true, I've done it many times by accident.

I usually turn on my music right as a match begins, so I do this as well out of forgetting to start the music beforehand.

Or someone texts me on Skype and I tab out forgetting that it makes me shoot everything. >_<

Bad habit. Nice to see I'm not the only one.


Now this is possible, but he could actually still be encountering the Disgruntled Mechpilot Militia, and their just deciding to take their frustrations out on him. Its hard to tell without having a complete recount from multiple sources or a video. :S

bearded sloth, on 24 January 2014 - 08:45 AM, said:

Thank you very much for the links . . . I will go watch tem now !

BTW! If you ever need someone to drop with Sloth, add me as a friend in game and I will do matches with you when I am on/free!