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[Metadavion]

So how many times is Paul going to attempt to balance the game and prevent OP builds until he realizes he can't. Right now he sits to nerf victors and highlanders, but I have a feeling he's going to punish other chassis. Or he's going to end up punishing the mechs beyond redemption.

We have 1.4 dubs and clan dubs because 3 second jenners.

We have Ghost heat because PPC boating, but its still here.

We have Gauss charge because of poptarts, still here.

We have a hardpoint system that does not prevent K2's from dual gaussing. Or shoving ppc into small laser holes.


Meanwhile half the guns in the game don't even function, SRMs, Flamers, Pulse Lasers, AC10.

[Sandpit]

Probably as many times as people like you post drivel like this

[Mcgral18]

Well, the upcoming nerf is for JJs more than the Victors and HGNs and the upcoming NARC buff might no longer make is useless.

Of course, there are many things he could narc up in the process. We'll wait and see.

[cSand]

Metadavion, on 06 February 2014 - 07:06 PM, said:

So how many times is Paul going to attempt to balance the game and prevent OP builds until he realizes he can't. Right now he sits to nerf victors and highlanders, but I have a feeling he's going to punish other chassis. Or he's going to end up punishing the mechs beyond redemption.

We have 1.4 dubs and clan dubs because 3 second jenners.

We have Ghost heat because PPC boating, but its still here.

We have Gauss charge because of poptarts, still here.

We have a hardpoint system that does not prevent K2's from dual gaussing. Or shoving ppc into small laser holes.


Meanwhile half the guns in the game don't even function, SRMs, Flamers, Pulse Lasers, AC10.

[wanderer]

Metadavion, on 06 February 2014 - 07:06 PM, said:

Meanwhile half the guns in the game don't even function, SRMs, Flamers, Pulse Lasers, AC10.

I just had a 600+ damage game with an SRM-laden (not Streak) Battlemaster.

They may be broke still with Artemis, but they seemed to work fine without it.

[cSand]

wanderer, on 06 February 2014 - 07:26 PM, said:

SRM-laden

I read that as SRM-laden, as in, Bin-laden
Once I stopped laughing at what I thought was the best name for a mech anyone had ever made, I realized what happened.

Please, please rename that Battlemaster SRM-Laden

[Dymlos2003]

wanderer, on 06 February 2014 - 07:26 PM, said:

I just had a 600+ damage game with an SRM-laden (not Streak) Battlemaster.

They may be broke still with Artemis, but they seemed to work fine without it.

they work fine with it as well

[Trauglodyte]

I don't like what he's doing but, and this is only if we're like REALLY lucky, hopefully he sees the light and goes, "Hey, it isn't really the mech but, um, like the JJs and such." Anyone have the New Vegas odds on that?

[Victor Morson]

Mcgral18, on 06 February 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

Well, the upcoming nerf is for JJs more than the Victors and HGNs and the upcoming NARC buff might no longer make is useless.

Of course, there are many things he could narc up in the process. We'll wait and see.

Nerfing JJs in combat will not change where the Highlander is. The main reason you need them is because on maps, like Canyon Network, non-jumping assaults are screwed.

You are completely right that in that Paul does not understand WHY the Highlander is what it is, and thus will address it wrong.

Edited by Victor Morson, 06 February 2014 - 07:44 PM.

[cSand]

Trauglodyte, on 06 February 2014 - 07:41 PM, said:

I don't like what he's doing but, and this is only if we're like REALLY lucky, hopefully he sees the light and goes, "Hey, it isn't really the mech but, um, like the JJs and such." Anyone have the New Vegas odds on that?

edit

he found it

Edited by cSand, 06 February 2014 - 10:52 PM.

[Victor Morson]

cSand, on 06 February 2014 - 07:23 PM, said:

Edited by Victor Morson, 06 February 2014 - 07:55 PM.

[Trauglodyte]

I just found it, cSand. Jeez! Give muh a break!

[Khobai]

Nerfing the highlander/victor makes no sense at all.

Pinpoint is the reason poptarting is effective. Remove that and the highlander/victor will be in line with everything else.

[Craig Steele]

Victor Morson, on 06 February 2014 - 07:53 PM, said:

Well in fairness, the OP is clearly an alt and the post designed to inflame extreme views. It's hardly a rational argument you'd have to agree?

[Sybreed]

Craig Steele, on 06 February 2014 - 08:02 PM, said:

Well in fairness, the OP is clearly an alt and the post designed to inflame extreme views. It's hardly a rational argument you'd have to agree?

extreme views?

Jesus, extremism calls are made on a whim nowadays

[Bishop Steiner]

Victor Morson, on 06 February 2014 - 07:53 PM, said:

*yawn*

when one has no argument, the white knight card invariably gets played still I see.

Sybreed, on 06 February 2014 - 08:06 PM, said:

extreme views?

Jesus, extremism calls are made on a whim nowadays

in both directions, it seems.

Either PGI totally has screwed the pooch, or PGI is wonderful all the time. Nothing remotely in between. And people wonder why PGI doesn't tend to listen to the QQ?

[Trauglodyte]

Well, it was Victor that laid it down. In all the time that I've been on these boards (since CB), he's made very few level headed posts. You can call it passion or call it hot headedness. Its all about perspective.

[Asmudius Heng]

Trauglodyte, on 06 February 2014 - 08:10 PM, said:

Well, it was Victor that laid it down. In all the time that I've been on these boards (since CB), he's made very few level headed posts. You can call it passion or call it hot headedness. Its all about perspective.

It can be both

[Bishop Steiner]

Khobai, on 06 February 2014 - 08:00 PM, said:

Nerfing the highlander/victor makes no sense at all.

Pinpoint is the reason poptarting is effective. Remove that and the highlander/victor will be in line with everything else.

will agree with this point though. In general, we are seeing bandaids over the biggest issues. Sadly, it's likely far too late to reboot and fix those (aka, Convergence and the need for sized hardpoint system..... aaaaaaaaaaand proper heat thresholds might help too) so instead of all the whining about what will never be, I guess some of us would prefer to see conducive suggestions for fixing what IS.

[Craig Steele]

Sybreed, on 06 February 2014 - 08:06 PM, said:

extreme views?

Jesus, extremism calls are made on a whim nowadays

OK, lets call it emotional responses then. It's still not a coherent argument is it?