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#1 rilianv

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 06:31 PM

to take a 25 ton mech against a mech 3-4 times its weight while enjoying a 3 to 1 advantage over your enemies

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 07:24 PM

not sure I understand what you're trying to say

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 07:29 PM

davion soldiers are so full of themselves and there tactical advantage that they think they're invincible and can beat an Atlas with a Flea

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 07:35 PM

Nah, that sounds like Clan tactics lol.

Or is what you're saying, they would rather have 8-10 small mechs rather than 2-3 big mechs?

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 07:37 PM

Now that would be a fun fight to try.. kinda like an elemental taking on a med mech. lol

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 07:38 PM

View PostAeropunk, on 18 June 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

Nah, that sounds like Clan tactics lol.

Or is what you're saying, they would rather have 8-10 small mechs rather than 2-3 big mechs?



that would describe everyone compared to the lyrans

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 07:41 PM

3 Fleas against one Atlas (since you mentioned a 3 to 1 advantage)? Yeah, I'd say the Fleas have a fighting chance. It's harder to hit such fast moving targets and they can just keep taking off rear armor as the Atlas tries to target each of them. No being full of yourself about it, it's just called using tactics in general. In MW2:Mercs it was easy to take out a Masakari with a quick medium mech, my preference was with a Valkyrie remake. Close the gap and just keep using your jump jets to get behind him and dump LRM10s into his back.

But Steiner tactics would be to have brought 3 Atlases to begin with.

#8 rilianv

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 07:46 PM

Davion officer: so the cappies are coming at us with a company of cyclops? Send out a battalion of fleas. that should take care of those whimpy cappies

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 07:50 PM

View Postrilianv, on 18 June 2012 - 07:46 PM, said:

Davion officer: so the cappies are coming at us with a company of cyclops? Send out a battalion of fleas. that should take care of those whimpy cappies

Okay, so you just don't like Davion. Anything else to say?

#10 Kasiagora

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 07:52 PM

And if the Cappies came out with Cataphracts, Davion would just reverse engineer the design, smooth it out, and make the Caesar. It was a very Russian moment they had there. (No offense to anyone from Russia, your people are just VERY good at reverse engineering the best technology around at any given moment.) :)

#11 rilianv

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 07:53 PM

I'm sure I'll come up with something else to make fun of

View PostKasiagora, on 18 June 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

And if the Cappies came out with Cataphracts, Davion would just reverse engineer the design, smooth it out, and make the Caesar. It was a very Russian moment they had there. (No offense to anyone from Russia, your people are just VERY good at reverse engineering the best technology around at any given moment.) :)



best thing to ever come out of the attack of the cappie realm

#12 KageRyuu

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 08:26 PM

View PostKasiagora, on 18 June 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

And if the Cappies came out with Cataphracts, Davion would just reverse engineer the design, smooth it out, and make the Caesar. It was a very Russian moment they had there. (No offense to anyone from Russia, your people are just VERY good at reverse engineering the best technology around at any given moment.) :)

Actually if you read up on it, the "modern" Cataphract is more Fed Sun engineering then Cappy, and ironically despite being entirely Davion made, the Caesar is said to be more true to the original Cappy Cataphract aesthetics then the "modern" Cataphract.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Cataphract

"Caesar - One of the first new 'Mechs designed for the AFFC, the Caesar resembles a smoother and streamlined Cataphract, with captured Capellan 'Mechs used in the early development testing for the design. Closer to the original Capellan rather than Davion Cataphract, the Caesar mounts a ER PPC, Gauss Rifle and four Medium Pulse Lasers.

View Postrilianv, on 18 June 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

I'm sure I'll come up with something else to make fun of




best thing to ever come out of the attack of the cappie realm


What about the Raven?

Edited by KageRyuu, 18 June 2012 - 08:25 PM.


#13 rilianv

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 09:07 PM

View PostKageRyuu, on 18 June 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:


What about the Raven?



Only good thing about the raven was its state of the art electronics counter-measure unit.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:33 AM

View Postrilianv, on 18 June 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

to take a 25 ton mech against a mech 3-4 times its weight while enjoying a 3 to 1 advantage over your enemies


If you mean taking more than a lance to invade a planet, then yes that is Davion tactics. Hanse had this crazy idea about taking enough troops to actually win a fight, and it seems to have caught on with most of his generals.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:09 AM

Tetatae will soon come to your *House*. Squawkings of Grand Poobah, Crusader Marshal of Inner and Outer Sphere, The Mittani, has directed the Word of Lowtax to confiscate any and all interstellar fax machines commissioned by Dictator Hands Davidson. Federast Suns Fax Machines have caused great interference and discomfort while Tetatae watch reruns of "SilverHawks" on cable.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:15 AM

View PostAeropunk, on 18 June 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

Nah, that sounds like Clan tactics lol.

Or is what you're saying, they would rather have 8-10 small mechs rather than 2-3 big mechs?

Nah, Clan tactics would be them sending out the 3 lights against the assault, then each of them proceeding to challenge him 1v1 a la Zellbrigen.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:19 AM

View PostKasiagora, on 18 June 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

But Steiner tactics would be to have brought 3 Atlases to begin with.

You Sir, have forgotten the Zeus-scoutmech.
Or the fourth Atlas... :angry:

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 12:30 PM

House Davion was the first to bring Regimental Combat Teams (RCT) starting with the 4th Sucession war. There several regiments each of combined arms units usally have 1 - 2 regiments of mechs along with a regiment of vehicles, aerospace, infantry assets. These units trained extensively in combined arms tactics allowing an RCT to secure and be able to hold an entire planet. The benefit dedicated dropship and jumship assests cannot be overstated with these units, allowing them to escapt in many cases if the battle turned against them.

These units became the backbone of the Federated Commonwealth's standing army and forced many of the other houses that were too dependent on mechs alone to rethink their strategic theory on the battle field.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:37 AM

Whatever it takes! They don't call me "The Fox" for nothing!

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:48 AM

Use the ultimate ability: "Stackpole writing." :P





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