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Has Anyone Noticed That Their Processor Speed Drops By More Than 50% In The Faction Tab If Running In Full Screen Window?


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#1 Jun Watarase

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 06:23 AM

As title?

#2 mogs01gt

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 06:31 AM

This game is known to have poor optimization. I cant get this game to use more than 50% of my CPU to begin with.

#3 Mawai

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 06:33 AM

No?

The clock speed on my processor does not appear to be affected by MWO. I don't see how my processor could otherwise slow down by 50% ... so perhaps your question is not as clear as you meant it to be?

In addition, which processor are you referring to? My CPU has 4 cores ... each of which executes processes. Are you suggesting that there is a 50% increase in utilization on all 4 cores when the faction tab is active? I haven't seen this but I haven't checked specifically. I have not noticed any significant slow down in responsiveness when the faction tab is open that would have made me look for this sort of effect.

#4 Jun Watarase

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 06:53 AM

My processor usually runs at 2.8 ghz (regardless of how many cores are active). It drops to about 1 ghz when i have the faction tab open in full screen windowed mode. The moment i switch to any other tab, the processor speed jumps back up to 2.8 ghz.

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 06:54 AM

View PostMawai, on 18 December 2014 - 06:33 AM, said:

No?

The clock speed on my processor does not appear to be affected by MWO. I don't see how my processor could otherwise slow down by 50% ... so perhaps your question is not as clear as you meant it to be?



Glad I wasn't the only one confused by the question. I tested the usage myself and noticed a slight increase in a core when I opened up the faction tab but didn't actually check my CPU clock speed. The overall increase was 2% but I have an 8 core so a single core going up isn't going to add much.

#6 mogs01gt

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 08:36 AM

View PostJun Watarase, on 18 December 2014 - 06:53 AM, said:

My processor usually runs at 2.8 ghz (regardless of how many cores are active). It drops to about 1 ghz when i have the faction tab open in full screen windowed mode. The moment i switch to any other tab, the processor speed jumps back up to 2.8 ghz.

That simply means its using less CPU resources.

#7 Jun Watarase

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 11:19 AM

View Postmogs01gt, on 18 December 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

That simply means its using less CPU resources.


No, it just means the entire computer runs incredibly slowly, since everything is running at 1 ghz, including things like firefox.

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 12:17 PM

View PostJun Watarase, on 18 December 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

No, it just means the entire computer runs incredibly slowly, since everything is running at 1 ghz, including things like firefox.

That makes no sense at all. Its only going to be two things. Either A. its using less CPU resources or B. its not optimized properly, which was my original post.

#9 Satan n stuff

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 12:20 PM

View Postmogs01gt, on 18 December 2014 - 12:17 PM, said:

That makes no sense at all. Its only going to be two things. Either A. its using less CPU resources or B. its not optimized properly, which was my original post.

I think Jun might somehow have broken his OS, I don't see how this would be possible otherwise. More likely is that he's simply misinterpreting something.

#10 mogs01gt

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 12:21 PM

View PostSatan n stuff, on 18 December 2014 - 12:20 PM, said:

I think Jun might somehow have broken his OS, I don't see how this would be possible otherwise. More likely is that he's simply misinterpreting something.

Exactly. I dont think he is explaining the issue correctly.

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 12:44 PM

View PostJun Watarase, on 18 December 2014 - 06:23 AM, said:

As title?



What processor do you have? Sounds like Intel Speedstep issues.

Also how are you getting your CPU speed? Windows reports it inaccurately.


Use http://www.cpuid.com....1-setup-en.exe


Right now Windows says my CPU is at 3.4ghz but it's really at 1.6ghz, when I start actually doing something it jumps to 4.4ghz

Edited by Sug, 18 December 2014 - 12:47 PM.


#12 Jun Watarase

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 01:14 PM

View Postmogs01gt, on 18 December 2014 - 12:17 PM, said:

That makes no sense at all. Its only going to be two things. Either A. its using less CPU resources or B. its not optimized properly, which was my original post.


I dont know what is hard to understand about this. I already explained it very clearly.

Looking at intel XTU :

With faction tab on : Processor speed drops to 1 ghz average

-On any other tab : Processor speed runs at 2.8 ghz (normal speed)

It is not CPU usage. It is literally processor speed.

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Hopefully these screenshots will show the problem clearly. If you still don't understand it, then i don't know what to say other than to call a friend and ask him to help explain it to you.

#13 Jun Watarase

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 01:21 PM

View PostSug, on 18 December 2014 - 12:44 PM, said:



What processor do you have? Sounds like Intel Speedstep issues.

Also how are you getting your CPU speed? Windows reports it inaccurately.


Use http://www.cpuid.com....1-setup-en.exe


Right now Windows says my CPU is at 3.4ghz but it's really at 1.6ghz, when I start actually doing something it jumps to 4.4ghz


Thanks, i tried CPU-Z but it just reports the same thing intel XTU does : that the processor downclocks the moment i have the faction tab active.

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 01:32 PM

View PostJun Watarase, on 18 December 2014 - 01:21 PM, said:


Thanks, i tried CPU-Z but it just reports the same thing intel XTU does : that the processor downclocks the moment i have the faction tab active.

Do you have any kind of power saving settings active?

#15 Jun Watarase

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 01:44 PM

View PostSatan n stuff, on 18 December 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:

Do you have any kind of power saving settings active?


Nope. And it's only happening in the faction tab for some reason...

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 01:49 PM

Hmmm. Mine doesn't drop but it does fluctuate strangely between 1600 and 4400 while I'm in the faction tab.

I would say it might be throttling itself because of temperature but only doing it in the faction tab would make no sense. Same thing with inadequate power supply.

Is it overclocked at all? Do you do anything else that would stress the cpu, and does it maintain full speed with those activities?

Edited by Sug, 18 December 2014 - 01:59 PM.


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Posted 18 December 2014 - 02:04 PM

Sorry, this really looks like you CPU clocks down because it does not need to run any faster. There is only one core displayed as active, whatever that means.
How this would affect other programs? No idea. If they need more power it should just clock up again when you switch to Firefox.

Concerning MWO, the faction tab is really simple compared to most other tabs so I do not see why it should have any issues. It's just some 2D stuff.

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 02:06 PM

Jun what CPU do you have and how fast does it run when you're just at the desktop with nothing running and doing nothing?

Also desktop or laptop? What operating system?

Edited by Sug, 18 December 2014 - 02:07 PM.


#19 Jun Watarase

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 02:10 PM

Its actually downclocked to 2.8 ghz to keep the temps low, i've had it go up to 80 degrees and still stay at 2.8 ghz though, so its not throttling due to temperature.

Its a I7-4700MQ.

Typically if i am on the desktop with nothing else running, it runs at very low processor speeds which its supposed to do. When i have firefox and some other stuff like IRC opened though, it typically runs at 2.8 ghz most of the time (although temps are about 50 degrees). Had absolutely no issue until CW was introduced with the faction tab.

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 02:15 PM

I have noticed that the power consumption of my graphics card on the faction tab is as high as in a match with 24 mechs! Really bad optimized on the faction tab. I can hear the gpu fan scream.





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