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[luxebo]

Scurry, on 11 February 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

Exactly what I meant. My Cataphracts generally do not take much leg damage - and they've been what I've been playing lately. My Jenners put ammo in the side torsi, since they practically never get hit, as opposed to the legs. My Shadow Hawks leave ammo in the arms and CT. Of course, I always use the head slot first unless it's got something else there.

I guess the key point is that there is no hard-and-fast rule about where to put your ammo - you have to think first.

But of course, combining ammo and significant armor stripping is a no-no.

Yeah, generally you have to think before putting ammo in certain places in each mech, as there are lots of different ways to place ammo. Similar to where to place armor as well, you have to think for each mech, as certain mechs like the Hunchie require a special configuration in armor to accompany the mech itself.

[Denolven]

Scurry, on 11 February 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

But of course, combining ammo and significant armor stripping is a no-no.

Unless it's still not a death cause to you. I have one mech that is running around with like 20 leg armor and 4 tons of leg ammo, while never dying to leg damage. I met only one player who has ever successfully exploited that, and only a hand full who tried to.

If I see someone having practically no leg armor, I go for the legs, but my allies usually keep pounding the torso. This, and the fact that that above example works, makes me believe that shooting the torso is simply the foo-strategy of this game. It's not always the best option, but it's all you're going to need, so that's what everyone does.

It's probably very different in full team games, and as always it depends on how you are playing the mech. But as long as nobody shoots my legs in random games in this particular mech with the way I'm playing it, I'll keep exploiting that by spending the tonnage on something that actually does something, like more ammo (7 tons and I still run out sometimes...).
Maybe I play the wrong mechs and all others get shot in the legs

Actually, my Trebuchet gets legged more often than the squishy one, despite having full leg armor. But that's because the squishy one doesn't go melee very often and uses hills alot, while the Trebuchet is often found in flanking maneuvers and uses the legs as damage buffers.

Edited by Denolven, 12 February 2014 - 04:19 AM.

[Satan n stuff]

Victor Morson, on 10 February 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

Bad Idea #1: Lowering leg armor by more than a few points.
Bad Idea #2: Putting ammo in the legs, as it is used last and will transfer explosion into the side torso directly.
Bad Idea #3: Mixing Bad Idea #1 and #2.

#1: Lowering armor anywhere is a risk, and whether or not it's a bad idea depends entirely on the player, build and tactics used.
#2: You have to put your ammo somewhere, and it will blow up some of the time, deal with it. As for the damage transfer, it's only half damage as far as I'm aware and the legs on most mechs can take just as much armor as the sidetorso can. Even if it's full damage all the way there's still more internal structure to burn through before it kills you.
#3: Agreed, but see #1 and #2.
The obvious solution is to either not bring ammo, or to stop worrying about it exploding. The only safe spot to put your ammo is an enemy mech.

[Linksdx]

Victor Morson, on 10 February 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

Bad Idea #1: Lowering leg armor by more than a few points.
Bad Idea #2: Putting ammo in the legs, as it is used last and will transfer explosion into the side torso directly.
Bad Idea #3: Mixing Bad Idea #1 and #2.

well as a atlas brawler anyone trying to leg me is probably not really there since why aim for my legs when iv got all these lovely weapons to aim at that and for a atlas the legs are pretty mutch the best place to put your ammo since A. you will mostly likely have lots of armour everywhere just in case or LRM showers and b. you dont want your ammo anywhere nere your weapons of were you will be shot witch tbh is your arms sides and centre because tbh what sort of mech pilot would risk shooting a atlas's legs on the off chance there unarmed and there's ammo in there because if your wrong all that gets you is a angry atlas pilot and most likely an alpha strike to you body (or if your a light your legs)

[Bront]

My general rule of thumb is my legs should never be less armored than my arms, and both legs combined should be about as armored as my CT at minimum.

Ammo in the legs? Depends on the mech and how often you get legged. A light? Not the greatest idea. An assault with fully armored legs? Probably safer. XL engine? possibly. Standard engine? Torso and CASE isn't a bad idea. Arms? Depends on how often you lose them and if the gun you're putting ammo in for i in that arm.

[Unnatural Growth]

Satan n stuff, on 12 February 2014 - 06:59 AM, said:

The only safe spot to put your ammo is an enemy mech.

Like that. May steal that.