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[RiceyFighter]

02/19/2014

Since there are people asking for rig advice and full system builds. I decided to do weekly builds of best bang for your buck machines.

This week:

This week components seem to be a tiny bit cheaper than normal about 10% cheaper than average prices. I expect prices will drop a bit during president sale. Keep your eyes out Mechwarriors. Within the past month AMD video cards seem to take a 10% price hike due to Bitcoin mining so NVidia cards are right now preferred over AMD price for performance.

Under 500 Dollars
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2VfDt
I went with the classic FX 6300 because of price per performance. Intel processor providing similar performance will cost about 80 dollars more.(I5 3570K/4570)

The GTX 660 Is right now the optimum choice for graphics card per price performance due to the fact that AMD graphics card prices are steadily increasing (THANKS MINERS >.>) The equivilant AMD graphics card model would be R9 270 or 7870 which are 30 dollars more.

Also forgot to mention that Ram is 20 dollars cheaper as well.

With this build you are expecting about 30-50 frames per second at high settings at 1920 x 1080.

2/12/2014

Honorable Mentions:

Just add video card.
http://www.tigerdire...EM4000TO&cm_mmc

Edited by RiceyFighter, 19 February 2014 - 11:22 AM.

[Lord Letto]

swapped 6300 for 4130, all cores used,not 2 cores idle plus 3.8GHz Vs 3.5GHz
2x4 GB Sticks of Kingston 1600 CL9 Ram (Duel Channel) Vs 1 8GB Stick of Crucial 1600 CL9 RAM (Single Channel)
Added a CM Hyper 212 EVO Air Cooler to help cool the CPU More then Stock Cooler when OCed

Total Cost: $509.89 Vs $510.38

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Siet

[RiceyFighter]

Lord Letto, on 12 February 2014 - 07:20 PM, said:

swapped 6300 for 4130, all cores used,not 2 cores idle plus 3.8GHz Vs 3.5GHz
2x4 GB Sticks of Kingston 1600 CL9 Ram (Duel Channel) Vs 1 8GB Stick of Crucial 1600 CL9 RAM (Single Channel)
Added a CM Hyper 212 EVO Air Cooler to help cool the CPU More then Stock Cooler when OCed

Total Cost: $509.89 Vs $510.38

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2Siet

Thank you for your comment. I have updated my list.

I prefer the 6300 because the machine would have better overall application with FX 6300 than 4130. I would assume players would play other games besides MWO.

[Vulpesveritas]

Glad to see another enthusiast take up this flag. Though I personally would drop the RAM down to 4GB so as to facilitate the budget for a slightly better ATX enclosure and a better motherboard around the $70-75 price range, such as the AsRock Extreme 4.
But of course, everyone has their own opinions as to how to goabout making a good rig.

I would also like to point out that your rig is $500 before OS cost, which would add another $100 to anyone legitimately buying, so you may want to factor that into the title for morelike $600 builds, as I did in the past. Still, best of luck.

[Lord Letto]

Came up with this on the Canadian PCPartPicker while thinking of a computer for my brother and WoW: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/2TcsT

AMD A8-6600K (3.9GHz Quad Core APU)
Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-DH3
Mushkin Silverline 4GB DDR3 1600 RAM (Might not be needed, current computer got 3GB DDR3 IIRC?)
Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM HDD as Main/Boot
Cooler Master K280 ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair CX430M 430W 80+ Bronze Modular/Semi-Modular PSU
Windows 7 Home Preimium 64Bit OS
Total Cost (After MIR and Shipping): $516.50 Canadian (according to Google, that's $470.53 US)
Remove OS like above builds and it would leave ~ $130 or so for a dedicated GPU, Maybe Something Compatible for Duel Graphics/Crossfire with the APU IGPU

the computer he currently got is one I got for him and his wife brand new off the shelf at Staples back around the spring/summer 2007-2008 with a cost of around $1000-1100 Canadian Bundled with a Monitor and Printer (It's a HP, Specs IIRC are a 2.4 GHZ Intel(Core 2 Duo I think?, however looking at it today it got a sticker on the front that says Core 2 Quad so if it is a 2.4 GHz as I recall and Core 2 Quad as the sticker on the case says, then it could be a Q6600 it got in it), 3 GB RAM (DDR3 IIRC, Looking up DDR3 Ram it was introduced back in 2007, so it's possible), Intel HD Graphics, He Plays WoW at either Fair or Good Settings IIRC, Any higher and the computer will crash/BSOD, for OS, it Got/Came with Windows Vista.

Edited by Lord Letto, 14 February 2014 - 12:13 PM.

[GreenNinja]

Hey sorry if I'm asking about this in the wrong thread, if so can you point me to the right place? I just saw this post and thought I could ask here.

So I have a friend who wants to get a computer that can run the F2P PC games like MWO, WoT, PoE, LoL, SC2 arcade etc... But he doesn't care about running the games on high settings, just enough to run them easily on medium settings. His budget is about $500 total, operating system and monitor both included in that. Can it be done? I have a fair knowledge of computer hardware and software, and I can help him put it together.

He wants 4+GB of ram, probably 1GB video card memory... Windows 7 preferably.

Edit: Also, he is a mac user so if windows 8 is better for him then maybe we should go with that. He wants to switch over to this being his main computer, so I am very excited that he might switch to being a PC user!

Thank you for your time reading this.

~GreenNinja

Edited by GreenNinja, 15 March 2014 - 12:50 PM.

[Lord Letto]

Dedicated GPU/Video Card: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3bs7Y
Integrated GPU/Video Card: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3bsfl

[GreenNinja]

Wow, thanks!

[Odins Fist]

GTX 660 will be a regret in the long run...

[Lord Letto]

some I just came up with in Canadian PcPartPicker:
AMD APU: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3A2X7
Intel IGPU: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3A59Y
AMD Dedicated GPU: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3A3sr
Intel Dedicated GPU: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3A3KU

I'll work on remaking them in the US and UK PCPartPicker to see what upgrades could be done, I converted those ones from Canadian to US PcPartPicker by removing the ca. at the beginning of the link and the price differences make a big difference, likely due to there being no prices for some of the parts on the US PC Part picker. the AMD Dedicated GPU Build for example got no price for the GPU, MOBO or RAM bringing the total down to $319.12 for everything else.

US PcPartPicker:
AMD Dedicated GPU: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3A5u0
AMD APU: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3A5QF

Edited by Lord Letto, 28 April 2014 - 08:48 AM.

[DocBach]

Something I came up with in a different thread;
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3A4r3

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3A4r3
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....r3/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker....4r3/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($112.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($46.18 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Raidmax ATX-298WBP ATX Mid Tower Case w/500W Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $451.63
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-28 11:42 EDT-0400)

sub $500 before rebates, no OS or peripherals though

[DocBach]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3A4Es
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker....Es/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker....4Es/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($104.97 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($46.18 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($40.80 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 1GB Superclocked Video Card ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Raidmax ATX-298WBP ATX Mid Tower Case w/500W Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $396.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-28 11:51 EDT-0400)

Sub-$400 after rebates

[Goose]

[coughs in the dust]

http://www.tomshardw...md-pc,3807.html

So: An Athlon X4 750K is a Trinity-based processor, which in turn makes it a Piledriver, and we have reason to believe MW: O should treat that as a dual-core for best results.

Moar interesting might be page two, where a methodology for matching CPU to GPU is put forth …

[Lord Letto]

just came up with this, only $2.85 over the $500 mark but if you can find a part used or wait for a sale/price drop, then it would be under $500, the Case can be different if you desire to a cheaper one also.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/w3FF4D
http://pcpartpicker....4D/by_merchant/

AMD A8-6600K 3.9GHz Quad Core Richland APU
ASRock FM2A88M-HD+ Motherboard
G-Skill Ripsaws X Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1866MHz RAM
WD Caviar Black 500GB 7200RPM HDD
Corsair 200R Mid Tower Case
EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Power Supply
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit

Total cost: $502.85

[Goose]

Do we know if anybody is playing this game successfully on an APU?

[DocBach]

Yeah, I wouldn't want to rely on just the APU for both processing and GPU in a game as intensive as this. If you scale back the RAM to 4GB and use a case with a built in PSU you might be able to squeeze a dedicated GT750 or comparable AMD GPU in there.

[Rhaythe]

Goose, on 03 June 2014 - 07:32 AM, said:

http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd484/hmp_goose/icon_threel.gif

Do we know if anybody is playing this game successfully on an APU?

On a whim, I tried it out on one of these ( http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819113366). Short answer, No. Long answer, HEEEEEEEELL no.

Edited by Rhaythe, 03 June 2014 - 07:37 AM.

[Goose]

Bad example, man.

[Rhaythe]

Goose, on 03 June 2014 - 07:42 AM, said:

Bad example, man.

Well aware. Like I said, it was on a whim. Only time I've tried, though.

[Lord Letto]

that APU build should go decently on low settings till someone can get a 7750 or something to Work in Dual Graphics with it or something, plus it's 3.9GHz Stock at only a 100W TDP so it might be good/decent at OCing.
For the Extreme OCer: http://www.overclock...ad.php?t=735604

I tried to copy the build as close as possible on PC Part picker with what info I could see provided and availability. minus HDD and OS it came to $519.06 US: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rxZgzy
http://pcpartpicker....zy/by_merchant/

A8-6600K
CM RR-H101-22FK-RA Air Cooler
ASUS F2A55M/CSM (couldn't see the -LK on PcPartPicker)
Kingston Predator Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-2400MHz CAS 11 RAM
Gigabyte 7750 1GB GDDR5 (Sapphire wasn't Listed for the 7750,only Brand cheaper was PowerColor )
CM Elite 311 Case (No 310 Listed, Blue was Cheapest for the 311)
Corsair CSM 650W 80+ Gold Semi Modular
3x Arctic Cooling F12 120mm Case Fans
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste

according to the guys Benchmarks, Crysis 3 Maxed out @ 1080p got him 28FPS stock, 48FPS After OC.

Edited by Lord Letto, 03 June 2014 - 08:23 AM.