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[MadCat02]

My PC:

2.8 CPU Intel

GTX 660

12 RAM



My Geforce experiance software suggest VERY HIGH settings but MWO runs like crap on very high for me. FPS 60>35


This is getting worse with each patch so i wonder if this is PGIs fault for not properly using engine . I asume they overuse the damm lightening making the game require higher specs than listed

Edited by MadCat02, 11 February 2014 - 07:49 AM.

[Clit Beastwood]

Try very high but turn off shadows.

[Guchion]

Geforce experience is recomending very high on that? wow thats out by quite some
Im running a Gtx 770
a 4ghz peak i5
and 8gb ram and I would say Im happy at very high at 1440p, but no way should yours run that well.

That said, telling us you have a 2.8ghz cpu, but not how many cores isn't going to give a good idea, you could have anything from a single core p4 to a i7 quad with hyperthreading.

A 660 is a good card but if your cpu is weak your going to suffer, especially depending on resolution what are you running at?

[Egomane]

Moved to the Hardware forum!

What CPU are you using exactly?
MWO loves CPUs at above 3.5 GHz. So that's one reason for poor performance.
MWO doesn't like dual cores very much. If you have one of those, then this is another sign your CPU is your bottleneck.

35 to 60 FPS sound like pretty much what I'd currently expect of of your hardware on MWO.

Fierostetz, on 11 February 2014 - 07:37 AM, said:

Try very high but turn off shadows.

Currently not a good idea, as the advanced settings menue is currently broken. Any adjustment made there, will reset you to high for all settings. Only make adjustments over the global settings of low, medium, high and very high and do not touch any slider. This will probably be fixed with the next patch.

[xWiredx]

MadCat02, on 11 February 2014 - 07:29 AM, said:

My PC:

2.8 CPU

GTX 660

12 RAM

This tells us very little. CPU is particularly important. 2.8GhZ... what? Dual core or quad? AMD or Intel? What generation/model? 12GB of RAM... I'm assuming DDR3, but what speed? While it technically shouldn't matter too much, it does contribute (especially for this game, where last night I saw 1.6GB of system RAM being used as the client crashed).

[MadCat02]

Guchion, on 11 February 2014 - 07:40 AM, said:

Geforce experience is recomending very high on that? wow thats out by quite some
Im running a Gtx 770
a 4ghz peak i5
and 8gb ram and I would say Im happy at very high at 1440p, but no way should yours run that well.

That said, telling us you have a 2.8ghz cpu, but not how many cores isn't going to give a good idea, you could have anything from a single core p4 to a i7 quad with hyperthreading.

A 660 is a good card but if your cpu is weak your going to suffer, especially depending on resolution what are you running at?

1600x1400 i think

[Summon3r]

Something is wrong with geforce experience then cause no way in hell with the vague system specs u gave us will mwo on very high at any respectable fps

[SleekHusky]

My pc was recently rebuilt and so I tried MWO on the highest, it ran relatively fine with minor fps drops and the big issue was extended play led to my pc overheating and then bsod.

The specs are 16 gb of ram and Nvidia GTX 780 Ti.

I have fixed this by running on the slightly lower setting and slightly de-clocking the cpu which is still overclocked.

Using a program to manage fan speed (other issue was computer not auto adjusting it correctly for some reason).

Overall my fps is steadily around 140 although it will drop if someone decides to lrm spam or ac spam me.

Edited by Sleek34, 11 February 2014 - 09:22 PM.

[Fang01]

Sleek34, on 11 February 2014 - 09:21 PM, said:

My pc was recently rebuilt and so I tried MWO on the highest, it ran relatively fine with minor fps drops and the big issue was extended play led to my pc overheating and then bsod.

The specs are 16 gb of ram and Nvidia GTX 780 Ti.

I have fixed this by running on the slightly lower setting and slightly de-clocking the cpu which is still overclocked.

Using a program to manage fan speed (other issue was computer not auto adjusting it correctly for some reason).

Overall my fps is steadily around 140 although it will drop if someone decides to lrm spam or ac spam me.

You've managed to say even less than the op did about your machine.

my budget build rig:
FX 8350 8core 4.0 ghz
8 gb ram
EVGA GTX 660 Superclocked 2 gb

Plays in 1920x1080 smooth with no noticeable drops

[Lord Letto]

it's not showing anything for me, Just stuff listed for current, not optimal (For MWO anyway, it shows Optimal for WoW, War Thunder and TF2). Specs in Sig (RAM is running 1333 but rated 1600).

Edited by Lord Letto, 12 February 2014 - 06:13 PM.

[MacSob]

MadCat,

My anecdotal evidence also suggests that this game is very CPU intensive. I was running a AMD Phenom 3 core with 8GB of ram and a Radeon 7790 and was getting rather low FPS 20-30 on medium. I upgraded to a i7 4770K, still the same 8GB of ram and the same video card (Radeon 7790) and now run 1920x1080 on High at 50-60 fps.

My rig is not overly expensive and considered low level for a gaming rig, but it does the job.

i7 4770K on a MSI motherboard - 290 bucks from Microcenter
Thermaltake TR2 600 watt PS - 40 bucks at Microcenter
8GB of DDR3 - 60 bucks at microcenter
1TB WD Black - 60 bucks at Microcenter
HSI Radeon 7790 - 100 bucks at Microcenter
Coolermaster case - 50 bucks somewhere

Grand total 500 bucks over a few months. I was amazed at the difference a i7 CPU did for this game, I thought I would need a new super video card to get numbers like this.

Hope this helps.

Mac

[Catamount]

MacSob, on 13 February 2014 - 05:18 AM, said:

MadCat,

My anecdotal evidence also suggests that this game is very CPU intensive. I was running a AMD Phenom 3 core with 8GB of ram and a Radeon 7790 and was getting rather low FPS 20-30 on medium. I upgraded to a i7 4770K, still the same 8GB of ram and the same video card (Radeon 7790) and now run 1920x1080 on High at 50-60 fps.

We've been getting two core vs four core comparisons for awhile now, but I've always wondered if MWO needs four cores, or just more than two. I'm glad you finally answered that long-running question of mine. Clearly MWO doesn't play nicely on three core CPUs either.

[SevenFolds]

MacSob, on 13 February 2014 - 05:18 AM, said:

MadCat,

My anecdotal evidence also suggests that this game is very CPU intensive. I was running a AMD Phenom 3 core with 8GB of ram and a Radeon 7790 and was getting rather low FPS 20-30 on medium. I upgraded to a i7 4770K, still the same 8GB of ram and the same video card (Radeon 7790) and now run 1920x1080 on High at 50-60 fps.

My rig is not overly expensive and considered low level for a gaming rig, but it does the job.

i7 4770K on a MSI motherboard - 290 bucks from Microcenter
Thermaltake TR2 600 watt PS - 40 bucks at Microcenter
8GB of DDR3 - 60 bucks at microcenter
1TB WD Black - 60 bucks at Microcenter
HSI Radeon 7790 - 100 bucks at Microcenter
Coolermaster case - 50 bucks somewhere

Grand total 500 bucks over a few months. I was amazed at the difference a i7 CPU did for this game, I thought I would need a new super video card to get numbers like this.

Hope this helps.

Mac

What is the model number of your triple core AMD Phenom? The Intel i7-4770K is much faster than similar clocked AMD CPUs, especially old AMD CPUs.

Edited by SevenFolds, 16 February 2014 - 12:47 PM.

[Catamount]

Be that as it may, his chip performs substantially shy of what I've typically seen/heard reports of regarding Phenom II X4s. My 965 did substantially better then 20-30fps. It was more like high 30s and low 40s. I suppose if it was a Phenom X3 instead of a Phenom II X3 that might account for the difference just on clock and IPC differences, but I'm still inclined to think MWO dislikes triple core CPUs almost as much as dual core CPUs.

Edited by Catamount, 16 February 2014 - 08:06 PM.

[Smokeyjedi]

Im tempted to build another rig outta my spare parts.....Phenom X2 555BE that wont unlock for the life of me.paired to a gtx 460 1gb. To see exactly what clock speed Id need for dual core performance, It was stabilized @ 4.21ghz on a lesser MOBO/

[SevenFolds]

Smokeyjedi, on 17 February 2014 - 04:52 AM, said:

Im tempted to build another rig outta my spare parts.....Phenom X2 555BE that wont unlock for the life of me.paired to a gtx 460 1gb. To see exactly what clock speed Id need for dual core performance, It was stabilized @ 4.21ghz on a lesser MOBO/

I have an Intel Core 2 Duo I'm ready to put together with spare parts (9800GTX+ lol) that I will overclock and do some tests also Not sure of the details of the build yet.

[WarGruf]

Ok so here's my build its not great but gets me by fine in any other game...

AMD Phenom II x6 1045T clocked @ 2997Ghz on all 6 cores, with a good heat-sink and fan that keeps temps @52c under load.
Only a minor overclock but it does help some, plus I've no water-cooler

This is sat in an ASUS M4A77TD PRO motherboard along with 8Gig (2x4) Corsair DDR3 1600.

GPUs are a pair of Sapphire 7770s Ghz edition stock coolers, GPU clock 1100Mhz, Mem clock 1300Mhz, power control is 0% and fan is on Auto.
Temps on the cards don't go above 65c-ish playing for hours.

The HD is an old school Seagate ST3360832AS ATA, might be a bit slow but works fine comes up as 5.9 on the windows index and has plenty of space free.

Power comes from an Ezcool 80+ 800w dual 12v rail PSU.

Fps in 1280x1024 = 45fps start up sequence, 40fps average, dipping to 21-22fps in LRM heaven etc.. compatibleAFRD3D profile.

Fps in 1360x1024 = 65fps start up sequence, 48fps average, dipping to 21-22fps in LRM heaven etc.. compatibleAFRD3D profile.

Fps in 1600x1200 = 65fps start up sequence, 47fps average, dipping to 15-25fps in LRM heaven etc.. compatibleAFRD3D profile.

These results were interesting as everything is set to Very High, Vsync, AA, Damage glow.
When I turned off AA the Fps actually DROPPED 5-10fps !?

Pretty mad hey... Plus it seems not to like any resolution under 1280x1024 for some reason If your wondering why I've only gone up to 1600x1200 res its because I'm using an old-ish DELL P991 monitor and that is as far as it goes lol...

(note to self buy new monitor)

Hope that helps.