Artgathan, on 21 February 2014 - 11:39 AM, said:
Actually the agility differences are non-existant. A CN9-A with a stock engine has the same turn speed (45 degrees / second) as a Victor with a stock engine. They have the same yaw speed, and the Centurion only has a 20 degree/second twist speed advantage over the Victor (100 deg/sec vs 80).
and the YLW has one of 31.25 per second. And a torso YAW of 120 degree vs the VTRs 90.
So yes, one can always cherry pick where specific instances of one being better than the other. Also you are comparing PITCH, not YAW. Aka, speed aiming up and down. Torso yaw speed (side to side) is 100 to the 80 for the VTR on the CN9-A vs the VTR-9S. And maxed out, fully unlocked and maxxed engine,. the difference in yaw speed is 137 degree per second, vs 96. (if one uses the Dragonslayer, the Yaw speed increases to 100 degrees per second. (max range of 108 degrees) Of course, then the YLW can twist 144 degrees, at 187 dps. And for comparison, the torso pitch is 25 degree at 84 dps vs 20 @ 56 dps. And the DS has a top speed of 89 vs 106 kph) So for mobility and agility, the Medium wins game, set and match.
So your argument is based on highly simplified information, and not actually indicative of the true differences per class.
Let's take my Shadowhawk now. 116 Kph vs 89. 27 kph difference in max speed. Torso yaw (twist) is the same 108 degrees but whereas the VTR is turning at 100 dps, the 2D2 twists at 163 dps. or 163% the speed of twist for the VTR. Both have JJs, so a wash there. Now the Shadow hawk has 30 degrees of pitch at 73 dps, vs 20 @ 56 dps for the DragonSlayer. 150% the pitch angle at nearly 150% the speed.
(Griffin 3m, by comparison, it 156 degrees at 144 dps, and can literally fire directly behind it when fully mastered. And the other "agile" assault? The Highlander has a 108 yaw at a snail like 72 dps)
So the agility difference is minor?
As for tonnage? Let's see, a maxed Engine (400XL) Dragonslayer peaks at 89 kph. At that speed it retains 42.5 tons for armor, weapons and equipment. The Shadowhawk achieves the same speed with a 275 XL, and has 38 tons left after. 4.5 tons difference for your mightily feared "Speed" Victor. (and BTW, only noobs run a VTR that fast, 340-360 are ideal engine ranges for VTRs) And your JJs weigh twice as much. (And the Highlander, 4 times as much). At this point, they have identical 108 degrees of yaw, but the SHD is still traversing at 127 dps vs 100. And still has 30 degrees of pitch vs 20, at a wash for pitch speed. Also, I believe despite model size, the Shadowhawk counts as Medium size for movement on terrain vs Huge for the Victor. Another agility advantage. Both twist and tank damage and protect their XLs like a boss.
The Point? The agility difference IS there, it's significant, and can impact one's piloting and survivability depending on role, terrain, etc. I can and have survived situations in my SHD that I quite literally would have just had to go down fighting in my Victor. And my Victor is better on average at slugging it out. Both are indeed quite useful, and quite different in how they are run.
And the funny thing is, I would agree the Mediums do need some separation still. I'm just trying to point out the ludicrousness that the agility differences are non existent, or so insignificant as to make no difference in how well one might do driving a Victor vs a Shadowhawk. There are the hard cold "maths" for you.