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[MaoutheGreat]

So I just recently bought a Hunchback HBK-4SP, and I've got to say I love it. I am trying to run the load-out as support or sniper since I'm not one for brawling. Right now I run 2x LRM5, 3x LRM Ammo, 4x Medium Lasers,12x STD Heatsinks, and a STD Engine 200. I plan on upgrading to Endo-Steel and replacing 2 of the Medium Lasers with ERPPCs. Right now I use the LRM5s for softening up armor since they don't deal alot of damage, but I don't think I should keep them and I want to change one of the LRM5s, if not both, to LRM10s.

[El Bandito]

Changing LRMs to 10s is definitely good idea if you want more long range punch. For some reason LRM10s are the most accurate of them all in my stats.

[627]

the first thing before you do anything else should be upgrading to DHS.

[DONTOR]

627 is 100% correct DHS is what you wll need or that ERPPC you speak of will burn a hole through your hunchy. Also yo may want an ERLL instead because I dont thnk you will have the tonnage to switch to ppc with just losing 2 MLs and endo. Thats only 4.5 tons of savings which is just about enough for an ERLL.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

HBK-4SP

I'm not a huge fan of this setup (if you want 4 ML and 2x LRM launchers the Catapult is a better option), but if you want those LRMs then this is probably what I'd recommend. You can also strip one or both extra DHS and add more armor, but that will make you run extra hot. Regardless, watch your heat when firing both LRMs and MLs at the same time.

[CDLord HHGD]

El Bandito, on 20 February 2014 - 01:26 AM, said:

Changing LRMs to 10s is definitely good idea if you want more long range punch. For some reason LRM10s are the most accurate of them all in my stats.

The larger the LRM volley, the more the spread it seems (unless you have arti). LRM5 is more accurate than the LRM10, but it is far easier for AMS to nullify a LRM5 volley.....

[Supersmacky]

This is my LRM version of the HBK-4SP: HBK-4SP "Rocketman"

It is fast, carries a good LRM payload and had the MLAS to discourage "close encounters". I have good success in this build especially when flanking enemies that are trying to hide from the primary missile boats. The 275XL allows it to get into and out of engagements quickly (98.0lph with speed tweak).

As already said, DHS are a must!

NOTE: Some people do not like the XL engine in the Hunchback. I like it because if you play it right those side torsos will not be an issue. The speed trade off it well worth it to me. If I do get in a bad situation I can run away from almost anything except lights (and if you are caught by a pack of lights using a standard engine won't save you anyway).

Cheers!
SuperSmacky

[MaoutheGreat]

The load-out I have now, no matter what size LRM or SRM I fire I won't over heat, what kills me are the 4x MLs, but that's easily fixed by using chain fire. And I plan to drop more than the 2x MLs for the ERPPCs, I plan to drop all 4x MLs for the ERPPCs, and maybe a little bit of armor and some of the Heatsinks since I run 12 and my engine has 10. I am saving to get a Catapult, and I am going to run it like I run my Hunchback, 2x LRMs of a good size, 2x MLs, and 2x ERPPCs. What I like about this mech is I can change out the LRMs for SRMs so I can practice brawling and use the LRMs for when I'm going to play support. I just have this feeling that every mech I'm going to be using I'm seriously overthinking or trying to do too much with it.

Edited by MaoutheGreat, 20 February 2014 - 11:07 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 20 February 2014 - 08:04 AM, said:

HBK-4SP

I'm not a huge fan of this setup (if you want 4 ML and 2x LRM launchers the Catapult is a better option), but if you want those LRMs then this is probably what I'd recommend. You can also strip one or both extra DHS and add more armor, but that will make you run extra hot. Regardless, watch your heat when firing both LRMs and MLs at the same time.

Only thing I'd change (if anything) would be to drop FFA an upgrade to a 275 XL, at ART and 2 tons of ammo. Sure a Cat can get more missiles on target, but if we are going to be watching our weights...

[Ngamok]

Mine is kinda odd but it worked:

HBK-4SP

[Fut]

Ngamok, on 20 February 2014 - 12:19 PM, said:

Mine is kinda odd but it worked:

HBK-4SP

That's actually a really interesting build.
You've got a lot of different ranges to work with during the course of battle.

Do you find that the LRM15 is hindered much by the 10 tube launcher?
The second wave of 5 missiles must get wrecked if there's AMS near by.

[Naranak]

Here is mine: HBK-4SP "Innsmouth"

Edited by sn4tchbuck13r, 20 February 2014 - 01:26 PM.

[meteorol]

MaoutheGreat, on 20 February 2014 - 11:01 AM, said:

The load-out I have now, no matter what size LRM or SRM I fire I won't over heat, what kills me are the 4x MLs, but that's easily fixed by using chain fire. And I plan to drop more than the 2x MLs for the ERPPCs, I plan to drop all 4x MLs for the ERPPCs, and maybe a little bit of armor and some of the Heatsinks since I run 12 and my engine has 10. I am saving to get a Catapult, and I am going to run it like I run my Hunchback, 2x LRMs of a good size, 2x MLs, and 2x ERPPCs. What I like about this mech is I can change out the LRMs for SRMs so I can practice brawling and use the LRMs for when I'm going to play support. I just have this feeling that every mech I'm going to be using I'm seriously overthinking or trying to do too much with it.

What you have to understand is that DHS are a straight upgrade to SHS. There is literally not a single, not even one reason to ever use single heatsinks. (Someone will come up with some joke build, but they don't count).
Seriously, do not ever use SHS if you plan on using that mech for a longer time.

The DHS in the engine are twice as good as SHS, the ones outside are 1.4 times better.
Ten DHS in the the engine are worth 20 SHS. They are a mandatory upgrade.
If you plan on using your hunchback further, get them. 4xML won't kill you if you get the DHS. Your mech will run alot cooler than it does now. Just the 10 DHS in the engine will give you better cooling than 19 SHS in your mech, while being 9 tons lighter.
Get them.

Edited by meteorol, 20 February 2014 - 01:49 PM.

[Ngamok]

Fut, on 20 February 2014 - 12:54 PM, said:

That's actually a really interesting build.
You've got a lot of different ranges to work with during the course of battle.

Do you find that the LRM15 is hindered much by the 10 tube launcher?
The second wave of 5 missiles must get wrecked if there's AMS near by.

The 4SP has a 6 tube launcher so the missiles come out in 3 waves. Yes, the LRMs do get hindered by AMS but you know what, most people don't even use it. The good thing is if other people have LRMs, mine will hit.

[MaoutheGreat]

meteorol, on 20 February 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

What you have to understand is that DHS are a straight upgrade to SHS. There is literally not a single, not even one reason to ever use single heatsinks. (Someone will come up with some joke build, but they don't count).
Seriously, do not ever use SHS if you plan on using that mech for a longer time.

The DHS in the engine are twice as good as SHS, the ones outside are 1.4 times better.
Ten DHS in the the engine are worth 20 SHS. They are a mandatory upgrade.
If you plan on using your hunchback further, get them. 4xML won't kill you if you get the DHS. Your mech will run alot cooler than it does now. Just the 10 DHS in the engine will give you better cooling than 19 SHS in your mech, while being 9 tons lighter.
Get them.

I will be upgrading to DHS as soon as I get the C-Bills for it. No boubt about it.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

Long Range Hunchback you say?

[Felicitatem Parco]

mwhighlander, on 20 February 2014 - 06:27 PM, said:

Long Range Hunchback you say?