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#1 DAYLEET

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:38 AM

After June17, shall we never ever see a new IS mech Chassis ever? Are clan the end of MWO? What else is to be expected?

#2 Iacov

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 09:00 AM

unfortunately yes













just kidding, there are a lot of great IS chassis introduced in the years after 3050 and you can bet that we will see a lot more IS mechs in MWO ;)

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 10:44 AM

View PostDAYLEET, on 09 February 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:

After June17, shall we never ever see a new IS mech Chassis ever? Are clan the end of MWO? What else is to be expected?


Between 3052 and 3058 there are a great many IS mechs developed and released. Interesting lots of them are specifically "clan response" designs. We can expect to see more IS mechs from pre-3050 as well, but once they sort out the timeline we can guess-tim-ate when we might expect things like the TDR-7SE (pretty sure that variant is post 3053) and other fun things.

#4 Sephlock

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 11:20 AM

Didn't they say they were going to start doubling up on mech releases?

Presumably that is because they are going to start releasing 1 Clan mech and one IS mech each time.

#5 Voidsinger

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 06:03 PM

I'd say there will be a bit of a break on the IS mechs, while they release the Clan mechs, likely at 2/month for the first few months. After that, it's more likely to head back to a 1/1 mix.

Remember too, they've been holding back some variants (likely for CW), so mechs like the Grand Dragon, BJ2 Blackjack, and a few others may appear in the future.

Then, there is the return of the Centurion AH. This will be a much heralded and Karma positive move if done.

#6 Rebas Kradd

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 06:17 PM

We have 28 mechs in-game now. The Flea and I believe one more will be released before the Clans eventually, making it thirty.

Then the eight announced Clan designs come out, and you know they have the Firemoth, Mad Dog, Gargoyle, and some medium Clan chassis (Shadow Cat?) waiting in the wings as the "Clan Reinforcements" package a la Saber. So that'll be forty-two. That's not enough for you? :P

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 06:24 PM

View PostRebas Kradd, on 09 February 2014 - 06:17 PM, said:

We have 28 mechs in-game now. The Flea and I believe one more will be released before the Clans eventually, making it thirty.

Then the eight announced Clan designs come out, and you know they have the Firemoth, Mad Dog, Gargoyle, and some medium Clan chassis (Shadow Cat?) waiting in the wings as the "Clan Reinforcements" package a la Saber. So that'll be forty-two. That's not enough for you? :P


Flea, Firemoth and Executioner, along with the Cataphract CTF-3L, Wolverine WVR-7M are all awaiting MASC release.

There were 16 initial Clan Omnimechs in the invasion (Shadowcat wasn't one of them). More followed, along with all the second line (non-Omni) Clan mechs. They will focus on the clans for likely 6-12 months before more IS mechs come, if only because it is a fresh revenue stream.

#8 Reitrix

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 07:07 PM

View PostSephlock, on 09 February 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

Didn't they say they were going to start doubling up on mech releases?

Presumably that is because they are going to start releasing 1 Clan mech and one IS mech each time.


This is pretty much how i see it happening. Especially since the Art Team is about the only one that manages to stay ahead of deadlines :3

#9 Ngamok

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 08:33 AM

There will be an IS Clan chassis package after the Clan package for sure. And after the clan reinforcement package.

Edited by Ngamok, 10 February 2014 - 08:34 AM.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 07:28 PM

View PostReitrix, on 09 February 2014 - 07:07 PM, said:

This is pretty much how i see it happening. Especially since the Art Team is about the only one that manages to stay ahead of deadlines :3

Umm that's because they can sell what the art team makes. Everything else can wait. If they were going to sell CW for $500 you can bet that would be on time. :P

#11 Belorion

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 07:52 PM

Where are these threads coming from?

#12 Alex Warden

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:08 PM

there will be at least ONE IS mech after that... when all the 4X Balistic Daishis had a few weeks of fun, they´ll probably have to counter it...

with the Annihilator

#13 Arnold J Rimmer

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:10 PM

Can't wait for my trusty, rusty Bushwacker <3

#14 The Blood God

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:51 PM

hope we get a couple of quadruped mechs

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:02 PM

Greetings all,

Just within the Inner Sphere there are many more Mech's to be developed before the 3058 timeline. The following list is just for Mech's that are not within the game yet, all new chassis.
(And does not include the still "unseen" chassis, legal "No Go's")

During 3050:

Assault - 11
Heavy - 10
Medium - 14
Light - 14

During 3055

Assault - 7
Heavy - 11
Medium - 10
Light - 10

During 3058

Assault - 12
Heavy - 8
Medium - 8
Light - 7


As you can see, initially the focus was on light and Medium chassis. Then the effort shifted to Assault weights in the 3058 era. Many of the Mech's were speciality chassis designed to either match the Clans range or close in fighters. Both types made use of specialized load-outs to eliminate or reduce the normal advantages the Clans brought onto the battlefield.

References:
http://www.sarna.net...l_Readout:_3058
http://www.sarna.net...l_Readout:_3055
http://www.sarna.net...t:_3050_Revised
http://www.sarna.net...l_Readout:_3050

All for now,
9erRed

Edited by 9erRed, 11 February 2014 - 03:03 PM.


#16 Sephlock

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 06:56 PM

View PostArnold J Rimmer, on 11 February 2014 - 02:10 PM, said:

Can't wait for my trusty, rusty Bushwacker <3

Just don't get your hopes up if you're attached to the look: see what they did to the Jagermech :ph34r:?

#17 9erRed

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 04:54 PM

Greetings all,

The Mech your wanting to have, "The Bushwacker" won't be produced until 3053 but doesn't make the full production until the 3058 timeline. Initially the design failed, but additional Clan tech revived the design.

See reference:
The Bushwacker was originally a failed BattleMech designed to have a smaller forward profile to make the 'Mech a harder target to hit. The Bushwacker's unique design caused problems with the engine shielding, the side-effects of which manifested themselves as various gremlins in the 'Mech's on board electronics on the prototypes fielded during the Clan invasion. The 'Mech was redesigned after schematics for an OmniMech known as the Vulture were captured during a raid into Clan territory. Information gleaned from the schematics was used to overcome the aforementioned engine shielding problems. Finding the schematics had given the Bushwacker a second lease on life. Full production of the corrected Bushwacker began just after the Truce of Tukayyid, and the 'Mech has since become a favorite of MechWarriors in the Draconis and Capellan Marches of the Federated Suns.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bushwacker

Unique Mech Design - "Mad Dog" - TharHes's design of the Bushwacker had been complicated by space-constraints within the torso, leading to system glitches. When the Federated Commonwealth encountered the Clans' Mad Dog, the Bushwacker's torso was reorganized based on captured and salvaged samples. The resulting BattleMech was free of glitches, and quickly put into production.

9erRd

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 05:06 PM

View PostSephlock, on 09 February 2014 - 11:20 AM, said:

Didn't they say they were going to start doubling up on mech releases?


Yes and yet not what you think.

They are already doing that with the hero and the regular mech rotation release. That's unfortunately counted as "2". Either one of those and the new Champion mech of the month is part of said count.

Edited by Deathlike, 13 February 2014 - 05:07 PM.


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 08:57 PM

Just because there are mechs produced after 3050 doesn't mean PGI will make them.

My prediction is after the Clan package they will do a IS mech, and the sales will suck as ppl are still lubbin the clans. so they wait a bit and do another clan mech and the sales blow that new IS Mech out of the water,so then they think pfft why make IS mechs, it makes no money so its nothing but clan mechs after that.

#20 Alex Warden

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 05:13 AM

View PostTekadept, on 13 February 2014 - 08:57 PM, said:

Just because there are mechs produced after 3050 doesn't mean PGI will make them.

My prediction is after the Clan package they will do a IS mech, and the sales will suck as ppl are still lubbin the clans. so they wait a bit and do another clan mech and the sales blow that new IS Mech out of the water,so then they think pfft why make IS mechs, it makes no money so its nothing but clan mechs after that.


my prediction is a little different, but also kind of fatalistic: i see an armsrace, meaning they´ll bring some IS mechs with ridiculous loadouts to compensate for the omni-capabilities ( as i mentioned some posts above, the Annihilator could work as a counter) , thus making older IS comparibly weak...

plus don´t forget - at some point in the future, PGI might also just allow mixed-tech for IS mechs, which would suddenly make them very very strong... as a last ressort to safe them, so to say

i guess we´ll see

Edited by Alex Warden, 14 February 2014 - 05:18 AM.






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