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#41 Dawnstealer

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:42 AM

I guess I'll keep on working on my King Crab model, then. :|

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:43 AM

Wow... MmmHmmm.

#43 SgtMagor

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:45 AM

Boom, dakka dakka, Banshee in the house.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:46 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 03 March 2014 - 10:37 AM, said:

Yeah, but the mech has huge arms to protect the torso. No arm mounted guns on Banshees if I recall correctly.

Actually, as a hero mech, maybe this lore friendly one is a little too good:
  • BNC-5S Vandergriff A custom BNC-5S piloted by Solaris VII duelist Victor Vandergriff during the Solaris riots.
The Solaris Riots are in 3062.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:47 AM

View PostNgamok, on 03 March 2014 - 10:28 AM, said:


LOL, this would be really great.


Yeah, for its opponents.

Russ directly confirms it's the Banshee.

Edited by Rebas Kradd, 03 March 2014 - 10:52 AM.


#46 MisterPlanetarian

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:53 AM

And here half the forum got hyped up for nothing. Well we still need another IS 100 tonner so not all hope is lost.

#47 Ngamok

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:58 AM

View PostMisterPlanetarian, on 03 March 2014 - 10:53 AM, said:

And here half the forum got hyped up for nothing. Well we still need another IS 100 tonner so not all hope is lost.


Was pretty sure it was going to be the Banshee myself, though I'd be happy with the Zeus, Cyclops, or Thug.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:08 AM

It looks like the 3E, 3M and 3S variants are most likely. A shame we're 3 years too early for the 5S.

Still, the 3S should be pretty nasty - a minimum of 8 energy, 1 ballistic, 1 missile.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:10 AM

View PostPariah Devalis, on 03 March 2014 - 10:37 AM, said:

Yeah, but the mech has huge arms to protect the torso. No arm mounted guns on Banshees if I recall correctly.

Actually, as a hero mech, maybe this lore friendly one is a little too good:
  • BNC-5S Vandergriff A custom BNC-5S piloted by Solaris VII duelist Victor Vandergriff during the Solaris riots. The weapon loadout is similar to a standard BNC-5S. Two ER PPCs are the main armaments, one mounted in the left arm and the other in the right torso. A LB-10X sits in the left torso. The two medium lasers of the original are retained in the left arm. The right arm contains a small SRM-4. Finally, four jump jets are added for increased mobility. BV (2.0) = 1,853[26]


BNC-5S was introduced in 3053, and Vandergriff probably had not this Banshee in his possession at least for some time after 3056 (when he lost to Kai Allard-Liao, he piloted Goliath, and it's implied that it was his only mech at this time - so he was forced to use this long-range mech on unsuited Ishiyama arena).

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:18 AM

And tears are shed.
The Banshee...
but 4 ac2s? Perhaps I will survive.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:23 AM

View PostNgamok, on 03 March 2014 - 10:58 AM, said:


Was pretty sure it was going to be the Banshee myself, though I'd be happy with the Zeus, Cyclops, or Thug.


I was honestly expecting a Banshee aswell since we don't have a 95 tonner. And they did a decent job of making it playable atleast. Would not buy it though, Saving for a King Crab or another intresting 100 tonner.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:23 AM

View Postblacklp, on 03 March 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

You're gonna be crying for a ballistic mech come Clan mechs.
I can promise you that.
The dual UAC20 direwolves are going to be nightmare fuel the likes we have yet to see.


Been there; Done that. MechWarrior 3. Ever seen an Annie with four of those strapped on with Unlimited Ammo. No? Well, trust me, it's not pretty.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:32 AM

Sigh, what a letdown. Neither an interesting nor special mech...

Next in line is the Mauler, so I'll guess we'll have to wait another 8 months before the King Crab even has a chance to be released <.<...

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:35 AM

View PostRavensScar, on 03 March 2014 - 11:08 AM, said:

It looks like the 3E, 3M and 3S variants are most likely. A shame we're 3 years too early for the 5S.

Still, the 3S should be pretty nasty - a minimum of 8 energy, 1 ballistic, 1 missile.


About the bolded part, I don't see much difference between the 3S & the 5S...at least hard point wise.

Both have 4 MLs, 2 SLs & an SRMs.
2 PPCs vs 2 ER PPCS
AC/10 vs Gauss
Standard Heat Sinks vs Doubles
Standard 285 vs XL 380

The biggest difference is that the 3S is only going to be able to mount up to a 340 or 345 which means you'll a lower max speed, but still have like 6-7 spare tons to play with...and that's before you add in endo-steel. With endo steel you might well be able to mount a standard 340-345...or at least a standard 325 in the thing and otherwise keep the loadout of the 5S.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:40 AM

View PostMisterPlanetarian, on 03 March 2014 - 11:23 AM, said:


I was honestly expecting a Banshee aswell since we don't have a 95 tonner. And they did a decent job of making it playable atleast. Would not buy it though, Saving for a King Crab or another intresting 100 tonner.


Unless the hero version is cool, I will be buying 3 standard variants. I have 103 million saved up.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:49 AM

meh.
If they don't change hardpoints, the Banshee is just an Atlas clone, just 5 tons lighter.
Would be interesting, when the ballistic hp's are in different torso locations.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:49 AM

View PostShadowbaneX, on 03 March 2014 - 11:35 AM, said:


About the bolded part, I don't see much difference between the 3S & the 5S...at least hard point wise.

Both have 4 MLs, 2 SLs & an SRMs.
2 PPCs vs 2 ER PPCS
AC/10 vs Gauss
Standard Heat Sinks vs Doubles
Standard 285 vs XL 380

The biggest difference is that the 3S is only going to be able to mount up to a 340 or 345 which means you'll a lower max speed, but still have like 6-7 spare tons to play with...and that's before you add in endo-steel. With endo steel you might well be able to mount a standard 340-345...or at least a standard 325 in the thing and otherwise keep the loadout of the 5S.


According to the (possibly slightly dubious) online record sheets I've been looking at, the hardpoint layout is quite different:

3S: LA - 1E; LT - 1B; CT - 1E; HD - 1E; RT - 5E, 1M
5S: LA - 2E; LT - 1B, 1E; CT - 1E; HD - 1E; RT - 3E; RA - 1M

Same overall hardpoints, but the 5S has a better layout with less of a single 'Shoot Me!' location, plus potential for a greater top speed.

Of course, a BT expert may be along shortly to correct everything I've just posted.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:52 AM

Sooooo when should we expect details on the Hero variant? There are a couple customs on sarna with JJ, but I fear folks will think that is OP'd and be very upset about "P2W"....

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:54 AM

View PostDadrick, on 03 March 2014 - 08:21 AM, said:

My bet is on the Banshee or the Hatamoto Chi. House Kurita could use an assault mech of their own.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 12:20 PM

View PostSgtMagor, on 03 March 2014 - 09:41 AM, said:

I would take Banshee or a Mackie. but I don't think PGI ever gave a hint that the Mackie would make an appearance afaik.


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