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#21 Strig

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 08:43 AM

View PostKarl Streiger, on 06 March 2014 - 08:29 AM, said:

There will be an outcry even if the Hero Raven - would have exact the same stats as the Raven 3L.


There's always outcry.

There will always be outcry.

I love the outcry!

(that is my Hero Raven Haiku)

#22 SgtMagor

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 08:43 AM

wonder what would be different for hero phoenix mechs, compared to the Project Phoenix variants (P)

Edited by SgtMagor, 06 March 2014 - 08:44 AM.


#23 Amsro

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 09:15 AM

View PostSgtMagor, on 06 March 2014 - 08:43 AM, said:

wonder what would be different for hero phoenix mechs, compared to the Project Phoenix variants (P)

Everything, very much like all the Founders mechs being a standard varaint compared to;

-Jester
-Boar's Head
-Oxide
-Grid Iron

But the 6 "Phoenix" chassis will be the last IS mechs to get Hero's.

View PostKhajja nar Jatargk, on 06 March 2014 - 05:58 AM, said:


I still think they could even make the hero a 35 ton venom for real without significant changes to the model. It'd make a nice balance to the 5V's lack of combat ability (and maybe balance/keep the V alive by special requiring basics in all three standard chassis before unlocking elites/mastery)

With firestarters everywhere who could cry op? who could cry p2w? Might even get away with leaving ecm on it if its only got the 4 hardpoints...


While it does still hold the SDR chassis code, the 35 tons might be a stretch. :P Extra free tons, likly the Hero will be a 30 ton mech still.

Would be nice if it had JJ + ECM + 1Energy CT + 3Missile RT. :P I can dream right.

#24 Belorion

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 10:44 AM

View PostSephlock, on 05 March 2014 - 01:57 PM, said:

I am hoping for a Raven hero with 1 energy hardpoint in the head and 3 ECM slots in each arm. Call it the "Blackout". Oh, and NO MORE MECHS WITH 1 MISSILE AND 1 BALLISTIC HARDPOINT FFS.


If they ever make a hero with ECM capability it will be a chassis that already has it, but I certainly wouldn't hold my breath for more than one.

#25 Fang01

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 12:05 PM

View PostAmsro, on 06 March 2014 - 09:15 AM, said:

Everything, very much like all the Founders mechs being a standard varaint compared to;

-Jester
-Boar's Head
-Oxide
-Grid Iron

But the 6 "Phoenix" chassis will be the last IS mechs to get Hero's.


While it does still hold the SDR chassis code, the 35 tons might be a stretch. :rolleyes: Extra free tons, likly the Hero will be a 30 ton mech still.

Would be nice if it had JJ + ECM + 1Energy CT + 3Missile RT. :D I can dream right.


Those hardpoints are what keep me out of commandos. lol

#26 Amsro

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 12:36 PM

View PostKhajja nar Jatargk, on 06 March 2014 - 12:05 PM, said:


Those hardpoints are what keep me out of commandos. lol


No JJ on Commandos and no Missiles on Spiders currently.

#27 Sephlock

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 02:17 PM

View PostAmsro, on 06 March 2014 - 12:36 PM, said:



No JJ on Commandos and no Missiles on Spiders currently.
The lack of JJs wouldn't be so bad if light mechs in general didn't have Vrolik Syndrome...

#28 Roland

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 08:50 PM

More Hero mechs is pretty much the least useful thing that could be added to this game right now.

#29 FupDup

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 08:51 PM

A nice Shadow Hawk hero would be...

1 energy per arm
2 energy in left torso (high mounted like ballistics on other variants)
3 missiles (1 in head, 2 in right torso)


With no added quirks (positive or negative), please. Do this and I might finally buy some more MC to get this mech.

#30 Deathlike

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 09:02 PM

View PostRoland, on 06 March 2014 - 08:50 PM, said:

More Hero mechs is pretty much the least useful thing that could be added to this game right now.


At this point, what are they going to create? Balance? A flexible but also "balanced" MM? 2-11 man groups?

Edited by Deathlike, 06 March 2014 - 09:02 PM.


#31 Levi Porphyrogenitus

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 09:06 PM

I anticipate the Raven, Trebuchet, Blackjack, and Quickdraw as most likely to get Hero variants next (possibly with continued Hero leads for the new mech releases in those months as well).

#32 Sephlock

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 10:04 PM

View PostFupDup, on 06 March 2014 - 08:51 PM, said:

A nice Shadow Hawk hero would be...

1 energy per arm
2 energy in left torso (high mounted like ballistics on other variants)
3 missiles (1 in head, 2 in right torso)


With no added quirks (positive or negative), please. Do this and I might finally buy some more MC to get this mech.
More likely they'll add 1 missile slot (high mounted) in a side torso, 1 ballistic slot in an arm, 1 energy slot in the head, and 2 energy slots in the other arm.

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 10:20 PM

View PostAmsro, on 06 March 2014 - 12:36 PM, said:

No JJ on Commandos and no Missiles on Spiders currently.


Unless its a total MG boat a la Piranha I really dont want a light that is ammo dependent. Hero spider could have TDK hardpoints and I'd do backflips with joy

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 10:44 PM

The Deaths Knell + JJ = Ember

It even comes with a bonus Spider 5K in the torso.

I'm hoping for a little more with the Spider Hero. But then its a weapon deprived chassis. 5/3/2 hardpoints on the 5K/5D/5V. If the hero has more then 5 pay to win will flood the forums. ;)

#35 Fang01

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 07:34 AM

I've run cbill firestarters and didnt enjoy the experience, ugly, cramped cockpit and moves like a truck with some amazingly bad pitch angles that almost force the use of arm unlock and thus negating all of the potential damage of all those hardpoints.

I'll stick with my 5D 9KA Venom clone, I just want a cbill bonus to run it

Edited by Khajja nar Jatargk, 07 March 2014 - 07:36 AM.


#36 Hobo Dan

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 10:30 AM

I hope this means updated weapon mesh’s for the standard chassis.

#37 stjobe

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 12:06 PM

The Spider Hero *will* be the 6 MG Spider.

Or else...

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 12:11 PM

Yup saw the twitter comment yesterday.

He did say MAY get as many as 4, might only get 2 or 3 as well. He also specifically names the Blackjack and Trebuchet, so I'd say both of those are a lock.

We recently got the Oxide and Ember, so it's possible we would still not receive one for the Spider or Raven....Quickdraw could use all the help it can get however.

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 01:27 PM

View PostHobo Dan, on 07 March 2014 - 10:30 AM, said:

I hope this means updated weapon mesh’s for the standard chassis.


I cant wait until spider and raven get their updates so I can pull out all the old stupid builds for the lulz. Gauss spider...2 ppc spider, 3 ppc raven, ac20 raven...its gonna be glorious

View Poststjobe, on 07 March 2014 - 12:06 PM, said:

The Spider Hero *will* be the 6 MG Spider.

Or else...


no fewer than 10 plz

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 10:27 PM

The Blackjacks need a missile variant and the Trebuchets need a ballistic heavy variant.

Therefore I predict we will get either

1: An energy + ballistic hybrid Blackjack with the weapon slots in odd places, sorta like the Pretty Baby

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2: A missile + energy treb, POSSIBLY with one ballistic slot.

OR

Some combination of 1 missile slot + 1 or 2 ballistic slots on the mechs.





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