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[MrWhite]

Lulz, that's all I gotta say is just lulz.

[Unleashed3k]

Lets be serious, 4945mc for a crap Champion or 5250mc for another Phract, but one of the best Mechs in MW:O currently... The Ilya Muromets.... + you get the xp/cbills herobonus and a 280xl engine.

The new Champion was maybe created after a party with tooo much drinks and other stuff...

Btw for what do u need this crap xp-boost, after master its worthless anyway.... got 2 Banshees on Elite in 4hrs without any xp-bonus...

edit:
all 3 new Banshees are out for MC as well,

3420mc for the BNC-3E (comes with STD380 engine)
3540mc for the BNC-3M (STD380)
3630mc for the BNC-3S (STD285)

all more than 1000mc cheaper, more armor, bigger engine

Edited by Battlestar3k, 11 March 2014 - 05:53 PM.

[no one]

Battlestar3k, on 11 March 2014 - 05:42 PM, said:

Lets be serious, 4945mc for a crap Champion. . .

BlackDeathLegion, on 11 March 2014 - 10:30 AM, said:

QQ more folks! ROFL

I wont be buying this mech for MC. So nothing effects me at all!
. . .
I feel at least these would HELP out the newer players better than how this mech is currently built.

See, that's sort of the problem. We aren't 'complaining' or 'crying'. Essentially everyone has your exact level of disinterest in the 'Mech. We aren't telling PGI this is a bad champion out of greed or malice, but because it's like watching a girl scout with a runny nose who doesn't understand why her cookies aren't selling. We want them to succeed, but it's a really bloody hard thing to do when they refuse the tissue.

New players aren't going to play this trial 'Mech and go "wow, this thing rocks, I'm totally buying this." and then spend money on one. The fact that the base 'Mech is really quite good simply does not shine through the poor design. Players who know the variant rocks probably already have one, and/or would only purchase it if it came with components they could use at a price worth dropping MC for. The XP gain is not that much of an incentive.

POWR, on 11 March 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:

Yea, they should've just put XL engine in and as many PPCs as it could carry and gone "lol we built a ridiculous poprtartboat that's no fun to play for you because that's what you all want lololol", and you would've all cried even more, because then it would have been "pay to win". Good game people, good game.

And we would have all gleefully ignored these theoretical people, as they clearly haven't the shallowest dregs of a clue as to what a champion 'Mech is, or how the game works.

Edited by no one, 11 March 2014 - 07:08 PM.

[Appogee]

LOL, who voted for that loadout...?!

[Unleashed3k]

Appogee, on 11 March 2014 - 07:30 PM, said:

LOL, who voted for that loadout...?!

PGIGP?.... do i need to say more?

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

Battlestar3k, on 11 March 2014 - 07:33 PM, said:

Appogee, on 11 March 2014 - 07:30 PM, said:

LOL, who voted for that loadout...?!

PGIGP?.... do i need to say more?

My wager is Paul.


He's very in tune with this game.

Edited by mwhighlander, 11 March 2014 - 07:46 PM.

[Unleashed3k]

mwhighlander, on 11 March 2014 - 07:46 PM, said:

My wager is Paul.


He's very in tune with this game.

lol

just love the "very" in your comment

somehow sad we laugh about it, cause these guys TRY hard to create something we all want.... ?!?... :-D

[Koniving]

I didn't find the loadout to be too terrible, but it would have been a few times better by simply putting the LB-10x into the right arm instead of the torso and packing a good sized XL in there, some more heatsinks and ammo. Perhaps even an additional AC in the RT to support the LB.

Or even a decent number of jumpjets.

mwhighlander, on 11 March 2014 - 07:46 PM, said:

My wager is Paul.

He's very in tune with this game.

Oh the sarcasm. Truth be told though they'd get accused of promoting the meta if it was given a poptart rig.

[ArchMage Sparrowhawk]

You need your own MWO Podcast or stream to vote, so I didn't qualify.

[CMetz]

Sad part is that I like this build a lot. I think it's great for beginners because of the std engine and the fact that it is quite heat efficient. I've run it to quite good effect with a kdr of over 4:1 in it. Don't knock it til you try it. Because of the trial im making phracts my next chassis.

Also, lb10x is very underrated. 1 pt less heat then ac/10, I believe it cycles a bit faster then an ac/10, and it kills things quick when they have open internals. My banshee is a monster with only 2 ppcs, 2 ml and an lb10x

[Revorn]

i Like the Merchandice Artwork, looks good.

[Eglar]

Koniving, on 11 March 2014 - 08:27 PM, said:

I didn't find the loadout to be too terrible,

Koniving, on 11 March 2014 - 08:27 PM, said:

Perhaps even an additional AC

I hope you don't refer to an additional lb10x?

Koniving, on 11 March 2014 - 08:27 PM, said:

Or even a decent number of jumpjets.

Oh 1JJ is fine considering they haven't fixed the infinite JJ Bug that gets you on top of any hill but than again, how would that help a new player?

Edited by Eglar, 12 March 2014 - 12:40 AM.

[o0Marduk0o]

The video is outdated and even the creator writes that it was made before the LBX buff, which made it a much better and fun weapon.

[Eglar]

o0Marduk0o, on 12 March 2014 - 12:47 AM, said:

The video is outdated and even the creator writes that it was made before the LBX buff, which made it a much better and fun weapon.

I would list you a hoakload of reasons why LB10X still is BAD despite the added Crit chance which only happens on cored parts. Or you could just take a LB10X mech and go onto training ground and see how bad it is.

Considering that in this CTF3d Build in particular the LB10X + Ammo takes up more tonnage than the rest of the weapons all together I can't say it's a good weapon/build. ANY i mean really ANY other autocannon would have made a decent build.

[o0Marduk0o]

In a game where destroying one location is better than just destroying components, it is worse for sure. Taking out one location can kill a mech, spreading the damage takes more shots but this is how the LBX works.

But like in lore, it's not made to punch through armor like normal AC, it's against aircraft (which we don't have), infantry and internals of mechs. But who cares about internals when you can destroy the location itself.

Edited by o0Marduk0o, 12 March 2014 - 01:18 AM.

[Unleashed3k]

Yeah Eglar is right, it's not a mech for Newbies, it's a loadout created by noobs ^^

[no one]

o0Marduk0o, on 12 March 2014 - 12:47 AM, said:

The video is outdated and even the creator writes that it was made before the LBX buff, which made it a much better and fun weapon.

True, that video is fairly outdated. Here's a much more recent one, courtesy of Wintersdark:


Also, we're already having this discussion in another thread. If you want to continue the great LB 10-X debate in the appropriate forum, that would be the place to do it. As a favor to me though, please do one thing first; go to you stats page, run the numbers on your damage per hits, and damage per shot for the AC/10 compared to the LB 10-X. If you're feeling ambitious you can find the ratio between those two numbers. Got your numbers? Good, here's the thread -

http://mwomercs.com/...-d/page__st__60

Edited by no one, 12 March 2014 - 01:44 AM.

[o0Marduk0o]

no one, on 12 March 2014 - 01:18 AM, said:

True, that video is fairly outdated. Here's a much more recent one, courtesy of Wintersdark:

Also, we've already had this discussion, but if you want to, we can continue the LB 10-X discussion in the relevant thread. As a favor to me though, please do one thing first; go to you stats page, run the numbers on your damage per hits, and damage per shot for the AC/10 compared to the LB 10-X. If you're feeling ambitious you can find the ratio between those two numbers. Got your numbers? Good, here's the thread -

http://mwomercs.com/...-d/page__st__60

It shows exactly what I say. The question you have to ask is what does a weapon not made against mechs in a mechfight. A weapon which is good against internals but not armor while you can ignore internals and just destroy the location.

[MustrumRidcully]

Napes339, on 11 March 2014 - 09:17 AM, said:

And it was voted by the community!

I did try it out before buying a CTF-3D... it really isn't anything spectacular

Only the first Champion was voted by the public, anything afterwards is PGI's work alone.

[Name140704]

What a crap loadout