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[Space Time Meat Vehicle]

Sorry if this has been said before... But really need to have similar Drop weights, heaps of times I have seen teams of assaults destroy teams of mediums/heavies. Surely can't be that hard to program?

[Kaeb Odellas]

They used to have 1:1 weight class matching, before they replaced it with the stupid Elo system.

Soon they will implement weight class limits, so every drop is going to have 3 lights, 3 mediums, 3 heavies, and 3 assaults.

[Willard Phule]

Read that as:

3 ECM Atlases, 3 Dual AC20/Gauss Jaegers, 3 ECM Cicadas, 3 ECM Spiders.

[Joseph Mallan]

Willard Phule, on 13 March 2014 - 03:58 AM, said:

Read that as:

3 ECM Atlases, 3 Dual AC20/Gauss Jaegers, 3 ECM Cicadas, 3 ECM Spiders.

To be fair... I can see every reason a military would field that. We are playing a Giant robot war game (eventually) not Monday Night MechBowl. I for one don't have a problem when my opponent uses the equipment we all have access to in an adventitious way. It makes my job tougher, its kinda cheap, but it is legal.

Its a different class than using Aimbot, or similar cheats. That drop though gaming isn't cheating.

[Willard Phule]

Joseph Mallan, on 13 March 2014 - 04:18 AM, said:

To be fair... I can see every reason a military would field that. We are playing a Giant robot war game (eventually) not Monday Night MechBowl. I for one don't have a problem when my opponent uses the equipment we all have access to in an adventitious way. It makes my job tougher, its kinda cheap, but it is legal.

Its a different class than using Aimbot, or similar cheats. That drop though gaming isn't cheating.

I can see one reason why a military wouldn't drop that...the sheer expense. If R&R were in the game, you'd see less Assaults and ECM on the field because that stuff is expensive to replace. Maybe once CW comes out and the whole "loyalty point" thing kicks in...maybe we'll see some changes in stuff because some factions may not have the ability to acquire certain pieces of equipment.

Who knows? It's not like either of us are going anywhere. I just don't have a whole lot of faith in how things are going to pan out. I'm a big fan of historical precedence.

[Joseph Mallan]

Willard Phule, on 13 March 2014 - 05:32 AM, said:

I can see one reason why a military wouldn't drop that...the sheer expense. If R&R were in the game, you'd see less Assaults and ECM on the field because that stuff is expensive to replace. Maybe once CW comes out and the whole "loyalty point" thing kicks in...maybe we'll see some changes in stuff because some factions may not have the ability to acquire certain pieces of equipment.

Who knows? It's not like either of us are going anywhere. I just don't have a whole lot of faith in how things are going to pan out. I'm a big fan of historical precedence.

Ok, but for an elite SEALs BlackOp, best of the best of the even better than that... They have scopes that can see through walls dang it! It wouldn't have helped me with my M-16 but They can see through walls Damit!!!

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 13 March 2014 - 06:18 AM.

[Willard Phule]

yeah, but...at our Elo level, we're hardly the "best of the best of the best...with honors...sir."

[Joseph Mallan]

Willard Phule, on 13 March 2014 - 06:35 AM, said:

yeah, but...at our Elo level, we're hardly the "best of the best of the best...with honors...sir."

There, now that's where I belong.

[Willard Phule]

Joseph Mallan, on 13 March 2014 - 06:37 AM, said:

There, now that's where I belong.

You obviously don't remember that line from Men in Black.

[Alcom Isst]

Willard Phule, on 13 March 2014 - 03:58 AM, said:

Read that as:

3 ECM Atlases, 3 Dual AC20/Gauss Jaegers, 3 ECM Cicadas, 3 ECM Spiders.

...and a Raven in a pear tree!

Edited by Alcom Isst, 13 March 2014 - 07:01 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Willard Phule, on 13 March 2014 - 06:42 AM, said:

You obviously don't remember that line from Men in Black.

Oh I do... I was just trying to be funny... Much like Will Smith in That scene... you appear to have a Zed humor response!

[Reitrix]

Willard Phule, on 13 March 2014 - 03:58 AM, said:

Read that as:

3 ECM Atlases, 3 Dual AC20/Gauss Jaegers, 3 ECM Cicadas, 3 ECM Spiders.

Then why do we see all manner of 'Mechs in matches now? Sure, I've run up against quad DDC premades. Destroyed them as often as Ive been destroyed by them.

If it were as simple as you claim, all we'd see is the quoted 'Mechs, in every match now. And we don't.

[Joseph Mallan]

Reitrix, on 13 March 2014 - 07:14 AM, said:

Then why do we see all manner of 'Mechs in matches now? Sure, I've run up against quad DDC premades. Destroyed them as often as Ive been destroyed by them.

If it were as simple as you claim, all we'd see is the quoted 'Mechs, in every match now. And we don't.

Don't forget us 4% players that win 90% of the matches Sir.

[Willard Phule]

Joseph Mallan, on 13 March 2014 - 07:13 AM, said:

Oh I do... I was just trying to be funny... Much like Will Smith in That scene... you appear to have a Zed humor response!

...and when our bodies were twisted in the positions of the Kama Sutra.....RRRRRR....

[Joseph Mallan]

Willard Phule, on 13 March 2014 - 07:35 AM, said:

...and when our bodies were twisted in the positions of the Kama Sutra.....RRRRRR....

ew.
No!

[FupDup]

Need Role Warfare.

[Ngamok]

Willard Phule, on 13 March 2014 - 03:58 AM, said:

Read that as:

3 ECM Atlases, 3 Dual AC20/Gauss Jaegers, 3 ECM Cicadas, 3 ECM Spiders.

1 CDA-3M and 2 SHDs, 1 ECM Spider or Raven 3L and 2 Jenners / Firestarters

[Quick n Fast]

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Sorry if this has been said before... But really need to have similar Drop weights, heaps of times I have seen teams of assaults destroy teams of mediums/heavies. Surely can't be that hard to program?

ive seen 4 lights take down 4 assaults, weight has nothing todo with anything.. player skill > all ..

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Need Role Warfare.

agree.. but the only way to really get it would to be to not allow custom builds.. all mechs by default when you buy them come built with "role" in mind.

Edited by Kahnawake MechMaster Prime, 13 March 2014 - 01:05 PM.

[Mystere]

Because this is another MM topic ...

Mystere, on 26 February 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:

I have said it before and I will say it again, especially because this is another MM thread ...

I really don't care what matchmaker is used as long as it is not used in Community Warfare. Having the composition of my planetary defense force dictated by a "balancing" matchmaker is nothing short of silly.

And because MM-related topics seem to endlessly pop up, I really need to ask: Are the majority of players here only interested in arena-styles matches? Because if that is so, then Community Warfare will end up being the biggest waste of PGI's time. We might as well just have the arena-style game that MWO is right now.

Edited by Mystere, 13 March 2014 - 01:48 PM.

[Warblood]

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the only way to really get it would to be to not allow custom builds.. all mechs by default when you buy them come built with "role" in mind.

true, but then we would have a never ending qq storm.
as much as I liked to see more people doing role warfare, there's not much we or PGI can do about it really other then adding stock build matches, but then people will qq about SHS.